Ingerlund ... So many questions

[Rosco]

So I'm not reading too much into the result tonight , it suited England to draw so they can get second.

But .....

1. What's with Foden, is he a Gazza wannabe ?
2. How is Mings in the squad ? never mind the team.
3. Surely Big Nat would be better ?
4. Is it not concerning that Grealish doesn't know what an encyclopedia is ?
5. If he is the new Zidane why are Mount and Foden playing ahead of him ?
6. What did Sancho do wrong ?
7. Is Harry injured ?

 

[Bradley]

Southgate is attempting to think on a higher level. You wouldn't understand.

 

[peekay]

7. Yes

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

8. Who gives a fuck?

 

[peekay]

Southgate is attempting to think on a higher level. You wouldn't understand.

Based on todays performance, neither do the players.

 

[StevieM]

Or is this just pretty much the same as every finals competition since 1966, with England and the players overhyped.

Let’s be honest - if you pick a European starting 11 - there’d be fuck all English players in it.

Maybe Trent - but we know how highly England’s fuck-knuckle of a manager rates him.

It’s no surprise that a bunch of over-rated cock-wombles, managed by a fanny aren’t setting a major tournament alight.

 

[Roopy]

Every 2 years I get the enjoyment of seeing these overhyped flogs crash & burn out of tournaments.

It's beautiful to watch.

Seriously - when was the last time they beat anyone of note in the knockout stages of a tournament?

Euro 2000 - knocked out group stage
World Cup 2002 - knocked out by Brazil in the quarters (beat Denmark in R16)
Euro 2004 - knocked out by Portugal in the quarters
World Cup 2006 - knocked out by Portugal in the quarters (beat Ecuador in R16)
Euro 2008 - DNQ
World Cup 2010 - knocked out by Germany in R16
Euro 2012 - knocked out by Italy in the quarters
World Cup 2014 - knocked out group stage
Euro 2016 - lost to Iceland in the R16
World Cup 2018 - knocked out by Croatia in the semis (beat Colombia & Sweden beforehand)

How can the UK media ever have England amongst the favourites with that record?

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Cos football’s coming home innit. Pfftttt.

 

[Holle]

Southgate is attempting to think on a higher level. You wouldn't understand.

Sounds familiar.

 

[Atlas]

More chance of Shamima Begum coming home tbh.

 

[dantes]

They're a shit football team. Always have been. They used to get by on the backs of 3/4 world class individuals, so have managed to ignore the huge gaping chasm in teamwork between them and other countries.

Now they have 11 laughably bad players and the same lack of teamwork. The thick cunts just can't accept it, instead they see all the players are at the same level, no longer 3/4 standouts, you'd think the penny might drop, nope, they have deluded themselves into thinking oh, of course, yes, that must mean our whole squad are world class, best squad ever!!! You love to see it.

 

[Hyena]

I'm not an England fan, but respectfully disagree.

It's a cop out to say the players are shit. You should be able to beat Scotland comfortably with Kane, Sancho, Grealish, Foden, Mount, Rice, Philips, Bellingham etc in your squad.

 

[Hyena]

Honestly, I just think the English players don't really give a shit about winning.

Everyone knows deep down that England will never accomplish anything, so there's no pressure or expectation. Just go there, drink a ton of beer, and be happy.

 

[dantes]

I'm not an England fan, but respectfully disagree.

It's a cop out to say the players are shit. You should be able to beat Scotland comfortably with Kane, Sancho, Grealish, Foden, Mount, Rice, Philips, Bellingham etc in your squad.

Thank you, for that list of garbage that have barely played a match together. Which is the primary problem, that none of them are individually good enough to win a game on their own, so what do you have left? They need each other's help in order to just replicate the dire crap that passes for decent club football these days. Even that wouldn't be good enough. But they don't even know each other, and probably don't even like each other. An entitled prick like Sterling isn't going to bust his gut to do a favour for Mount. So Mount will do nothing. Ditto the entire dysfunctional team.

All they can beat is other shit teams. Any half decent team like Scotland will embarrass them.

 

[The Nomad]

More chance of Shamima Begum coming home tbh.

Use the scale to make your prediction.

 

[Modo]

Could it be the heat? I mean could it be that English players don't really enjoy playing in the summer?

@dantes is absolutely spot on btw. It's about them not being arsed. They don't really play for each other. Not like Scotland and Wales.

 

[The Nomad]

Could it be the heat? I mean could it be that English players don't really enjoy playing in the summer?

@dantes is absolutely spot on btw. It's about them not being arsed. They don't really play for each other. Not like Scotland and Wales.

It was pissing it down and 12 degrees.

 

[Modo]

It was pissing it down and 12 degrees.

Oh yeah. Hahaha...but I kinda meant generally.

 

[The Nomad]

As others have said. The selection was all wrong. Sterling who can't get into the City team anymore is first choice when Sancho who is first choice for Dortmund doesn't even get used from the bench.

Rashford who isn't trusted to play CF for United, gets brought on ahead of Calvert-Lewin who is first choice for Everton.

It's got a very square peg- round hole feel about it.

Rice offered nothing yesterday yet remained on the pitch for the full 90 minutes. Southgate seems to be allergic to using his full quota of subs.

But sure.. he probably thinks he's playing 4d chess.

 

[dantes]

Oh yeah. Hahaha...but I kinda meant generally.

The heat in the first game is probably what saved them and levelled the playing field against Croatia. Otherwise I think they'd have been completely outworked by a more determined opposition in that game too.

 

[Modo]

I used to fucking like watching England play. They had characters back in the day.
Adams, Stuart Pierce, Ince, Batty, Gazza, Shearer etc. These guys just seemed to give it all on the pitch.
For all the shit Becks and Owen got, they fucking gave their all for England as well.
Unfortunately, I don't see many of those in the England squad.

 

[The Nomad]

I used fucking like watching England play. They had characters back in the day.
I mean Adams, Stuart Pierce, Ince, Batty, Gazza, Shearer. These guys just seemed to give it all on the pitch.
For all the shit Becks and Owen got, they fucking have their all for England.
Unfortunately, I don't see many of those in the England squad.

That's unfair on Mings and Pickford this is the pinnacle of their career.

 

[Modo]

That's unfair on Mings and Pickford this is the pinnacle of their career.

Hehe yeah... 😀

 

[RedStar]

England's main problem is Southgate, he failed upwards into the job got a very fortunate set of results /fixtures in 2018 and has coasted ever since.

I don't believe for a second England do t have the players to beat Scotland. France maybe too strong but that squad is easily good enough to compete with any other side at the competition. Their manager is clueless and the team just doest look like it has any direction other than keeping the most famous players on the pitch at all times. It's weirdly reminiscent of the end of the Sven era.

 

[The Nomad]

England's main problem is Southgate, he failed upwards into the job got a very fortunate set of results /fixtures in 2018 and has coasted ever since.

I don't believe for a second England do t have the players to beat Scotland. France maybe too strong but that squad is easily good enough to compete with any other side at the competition. Their manager is clueless and the team just doest look like it has any direction other than keeping the most famous players on the pitch at all times. It's weirdly reminiscent of the end of the Sven era.

And Capello

 

[Pesam]

England couldn't win anything with a squad that consisted of Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes, A.Cole, Owen, Rooney, Beckham etc so this current lot have no chance. Greece and Portugal have showed, in recent times, that you don't need a star studded squad to win things BUT you can't have a clown as manager.

 

[bluebell]

And Capello

No one really warmed to Capello, he was cold and played regressive football. Southgate has far more attacking players with greater technical skills than Capello, yet he plays negative tactics. He is just another Tim Sherwood. Gareth Southgate has got to go, get fucking Eddie Howe in, and let's start seeing an attacking England that is experssive.

 

[keniget]

The FA are useless and lack any kind of vision (which has been true for years and years). Southgate is out of his depth but can't really blame him for clinging onto the job.

It's a shame because this has been the perfect time to properly build a team for the next couple of tournaments - we have a good crop of young players in the same sort of age group and at a similar point in their careers.

It's not like the previous generation where you had to accommodate a bunch of egos. This team has Kane and maybe Sterling that you could call established stars - players that the media will make a fuss over. Nothing like a team with Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Terry, Ferdinand, Scholes, Cole, Beckham etc.

 

[Hansern]

Firstly, Southgate isnt good enough. Look at the other managers and their track record. Löw, Mancini, Deschamps and Fernando Santos.

Secondly, he should never have appointed Kane as captain. Its like yesterday were you look to your captain to lead by insperation. Look at Robbo for Scotland. Kane offers nothing and isnt vocal or leads by example. He is the massive jawed poster boy for the biggest bottlers in the league.

Thirdly, the set up is all wrong. Loads of talented players but none of them playing together. An unfit Kane, out of form Sterling, Shaw over Chilwell.

It could be set up completely different with the same squad and Hendo as captain, and I bet that performance and attitude is very different.

 

[dantes]

Firstly, Southgate isnt good enough. Look at the other managers and their track record. Löw, Mancini, Deschamps and Fernando Santos.

Secondly, he should never have appointed Kane as captain. Its like yesterday were you look to your captain to lead by insperation. Look at Robbo for Scotland. Kane offers nothing and isnt vocal or leads by example. He is the massive jawed poster boy for the biggest bottlers in the league.

Thirdly, the set up is all wrong. Loads of talented players but none of them playing together. An unfit Kane, out of form Sterling, Shaw over Chilwell.

It could be set up completely different with the same squad and Hendo as captain, and I bet that performance and attitude is very different.

They could have done that two years ago, but the FA want people to show up to games and buy tickets, so they need the marketable players on the pitch, as many as possible, for the revenues, zero interest in the formation or cohesion, or attitude.