Totally different figures when it comes to those two. Milner was like 34 when we signed him and Matip was worth £15 mill tops.
Is TAA worth breaking the wage structure ?
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So what’s the figure where it’s the same?
We’ve taken advantage of it regardless of age and value or whatever you want to measure.
We signed those and won big shiny things without compensating another club.
True, but we still look like mugs letting other top teams steal our talent. Especially fucking Madrid and them Italian clubs.
yea but remember the time united let pogba go for free then bought him back for 90m then he left for free again. that’s full mug
Hahahaha...the expectations they had on him ...wow. what a fail.
I don't know, I think it could be a very smart moneyball signing to pick him up again when he's available. I know the age is a concern but you have to think that he's had an entire year plus to rest at that point, and there's quality there that an accomplished man manager like Ten Hag could unlock. Perhaps the third time is the charm.
Its definately not common but being South Asian, we will cook almost any fruit or veg especially if its neutral in flavour (bottle guard, green papaya, cucumber). Mango, pineapple, green plums, berries (used as souring agents), and even orange peel (adds a slight bitterness and fragrance)
My late mother, God rest her soul, use to make fried bottle gourd peel. It would look like something below.
I like baked pineapple covered in cinnamon with vanilla ice cream. I am a wrong ‘un.
Had my first one last night. Was shite. Had Tuna for the first time too. Tasted like chicken.
The asparagus was yummy though.
It’s always gone on (well, since the Boman rule was introduced) - letting players go on a free is not a new thing.
Well I doubt that we since the inception of the bosman rule ever let go of so many high profile players for free like we've done during the last 10 years. Unless it's about retirement or them being too old.
How did you have it?
Seared with butter and served on black pudding. Fucking amazing.
Nah was an awards dinner, it was rubbish, not seared and Aussie are generally repulsed by Black pudding. I on the other hand love it.
Used to eat it raw from the fridge as a kid!
They're great raw as well. With a bit of wasabi and soy sauce.
Just as an aside, this airing of grievances about all manner of completely delicious food is angering me disproportionately, and I've realized it's because I'm a dad that likes to cook, a lot.
You know those cunty fucking people whose response to some obligatory invitation to a dinner is to list their various issues with eating, like now you're some chef that's down on their luck who has to make do with whatever custom you can get. Yeah, I live with two of them. Is there anything less fulfilling on earth than cooking for your own children?
The worst is that I remember my mum articulating, more or less, exactly that. It took me till like 14 or 15 or so to realize, hey wait a second, my mum is actually a good cook, and a fantastic baker, and that in this world, this isn't normal, I'm actually really lucky. Assuming these two even get there, I'm looking at years more of this shit. I swear they are actually trying to break me. I make things to pander to them, and they are indignant to even look at them. Instead of enjoying my meal, I'm persuading them to eat something that is great.
I'm left in this position where at times I'm just thinking, "you are objectively wrong, this is fucking delicious" while they ruin my meal and their own.
You know those cunty fucking people whose response to some obligatory invitation to a dinner is to list their various issues with eating, like now you're some chef that's down on their luck who has to make do with whatever custom you can get. Yeah, I live with two of them. Is there anything less fulfilling on earth than cooking for your own children?
The worst is that I remember my mum articulating, more or less, exactly that. It took me till like 14 or 15 or so to realize, hey wait a second, my mum is actually a good cook, and a fantastic baker, and that in this world, this isn't normal, I'm actually really lucky. Assuming these two even get there, I'm looking at years more of this shit. I swear they are actually trying to break me. I make things to pander to them, and they are indignant to even look at them. Instead of enjoying my meal, I'm persuading them to eat something that is great.
I'm left in this position where at times I'm just thinking, "you are objectively wrong, this is fucking delicious" while they ruin my meal and their own.
Neither have we allowed many players to leave for free unless it’s retirement, age, or more recently a few that don’t seem physically capable of playing at the top level anymore.
It’s not just us - it’s something that’s happening across the board.
I don’t know if it’s reflective of higher wages meaning more teams are less interested in paying a fee for players, or teams are trying to prioritise a more settled squad.
Could we try to keep on topic please? Come on, mods.
Even Chelsea are selling their academy rejects who have not played a single game for them for big money.
We are not in a position to lose 100m players for nothing. Well, nobody is, but even more so for us.
We are not even the top 5 in transfer spendings now, we are mid-table at best.
This is the thing Modo - I don’t think we could have sold Ox - I’m pretty sure that he was never fit for an entire transfer window for us to actually get him sold.
The thing with Origi was - he was worth keeping - selling him would have meant we would have missed out on a load of vital last minute goals.
Gini - selling him would have meant selling directly after winning the league - which at the time didn’t make sense.
Can has been well documented (by Beamrider) that we tried to extend but couldn’t accommodate his desire for a release clause.
Moreno… meh… hadn’t Klopp just taken over?
Also - a lot of the players you mention there / their prime selling period would have been during the COVID period when many clubs halted buying.
Also… as has been proven time and time again, getting money and spending it on bringing in a new player isn’t necessarily better than getting another good season out of a well integrated player - but also neither does it make sense to extending that players contract to seemingly just “protect value”.
I’ve got no problem with letting players leave on a free if we think their form is about to drop off significantly Vs selling them too early Vs potentially not being able to sell them after extending their contract too long.
If receiving transfer money was the primary aim - we should have sold Virgil, Trent & Mo last season. Of course, I doubt we’d have CL football this season or even a League Cup to celebrate last season… and Klopp would not have enjoyed trying to integrate new players into the defence and forward line as well as last season’s new midfield.
You definitely are - vanilla FFS !?!
With a side of PSP or DSP!
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Or possibly as a 'thank you for your service'.
I'm afraid fine cookng is wasted on kids. They'll always prefer fish fingers and beans over a simple carbonara
When Ian Graham was doing the rounds he said that the data folks quickly established that the rate of return on investment was massively higher for wages than for transfer fees. So I would imagine it was a conscious decision to pay another year's wages and get a further season on an established player, who we know plays well in the team, than sell him 12 months before end of contract and reinvest the income in a transfer.
I doubt the same rule applies for superstars at the peak of their value, like Trent, but for the likes of Can, Wijnaldum, Firmino you can see there is a logic behind it, even if you don't agree.
There’s the issue. Two fish courses cooked for an awards dinner? Fucking hell. They need to be served within minutes of being cooked. Not wasted on an assembly line.
My mum wasn’t the best cook and it’s something I realised late teens and took the effort to teach myself. My wife isn’t a great cook and leaves most of that to me. Thankfully she’s a great baker and really into making sourdough at the moment.
I have two little shits who have their core meals we know they’ll eat. Luckily one is a bit more adventurous than the other but not by much. They’ll turn up their nose at a curry made from scratch but the missus will make naan which they devour. The cunts don’t know how lucky they are.
We sell our academy rejects too. We’re losing a player on a free. We sign players on a free. These things happen to loads of clubs and not just us.
I can’t get my head around a love in for Matip and then anger towards Trent when both players took advantage of their situation in the same way.
Both had an agreed term with their clubs then sign for another. Same happened with Messi and Mbappe who were £100 million players (Messi more about marketing than anything else). Then there’s the Pogba’s and Lewandowskis of the world who also did it.
It’s the way of the world since the Bosman came in.
I still stand by that we are in this situation because of Klopp leaving. All three would’ve been extended by at least 12 months had he not announced he was leaving. They haven’t and Virgil is probably the only one I’d be against leaving.
Vanilla is fucking amazing. Good vanilla ice cream is a perfect accompaniment to a hot dessert. Don’t be wasting the other flavours on the plate serving pistachio chai shit.
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