We can sign players from Italy. They had just better not be Italian.
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We can sign players from Italy. They had just better not be Italian.
So it's not the league standard, it's just that there is something intrinsically wrong with people of an Italian nationality? Hmmmmm.
It's not like other clubs are signing Italian worldies for peanuts, this list is a bit out of date but I wouldn't want any of them at Liverpool:
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Is the problem that the Italians are a bit like the English in that they like to remain in their own country and the clubs like their homegrown players, making the chances of decent players going abroad slimmer to begin with. These defenders from the Italian national side that would apparently walk into our team pretty much play for 1 or 2 clubs that they are unlikely to leave.
Playing the numbers game I wouldn't be arsed with Italy. Never say never but I don't think there's either a massive untapped talent pool there or good value for money.
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Is the problem that the Italians are a bit like the English in that they like to remain in their own country and the clubs like their homegrown players, making the chances of decent players going abroad slimmer to begin with. These defenders from the Italian national side that would apparently walk into our team pretty much play for 1 or 2 clubs that they are unlikely to leave.
Playing the numbers game I wouldn't be arsed with Italy. Never say never but I don't think there's either a massive untapped talent pool there or good value for money.
Correct. Any dispute?
Don't play his game, darkstar. He's trying in his usual flip, shallow way to make out that those of us who don't want LFC to sign Italian players are racist knuckledraggers. The point is not that "there's something intrinsically wrong" with them. The point is that it's never worked at our club specifically.
It's just a coincidence that every Italian we have signed has been a useless, spineless shithouse
Be careful, Cloggy and his sidekick Oliver Twist will call you a UKIP racist.
Carragher: ‘Aquilani and Balo prove Liverpool should not sign Italians'
09 March at 23:15
There’s no shadow of a doubt Alberto Aquilaniand Mario Balotelli did not have a great impact at Liverpool and the Reds legend Jamie Carragher seems to be well aware of that.
“I can’t believe we signed Balotelli”, the former England International told the Daily Mail.
“Everyone says he’s a talented player even if sometimes he behaves in a stupid way. Trouble is, I’ve never saw him playing well.”
“I really hope some Chinese club will buy him because there is no more space for him in the Premier League.”
“Another negative signing was Alberto Aquilani. He was injured when he arrived and he was injured when he left. Actually, I honestly don’t remember one single time when he was fit.”
09 March at 23:15
There’s no shadow of a doubt Alberto Aquilaniand Mario Balotelli did not have a great impact at Liverpool and the Reds legend Jamie Carragher seems to be well aware of that.
“I can’t believe we signed Balotelli”, the former England International told the Daily Mail.
“Everyone says he’s a talented player even if sometimes he behaves in a stupid way. Trouble is, I’ve never saw him playing well.”
“I really hope some Chinese club will buy him because there is no more space for him in the Premier League.”
“Another negative signing was Alberto Aquilani. He was injured when he arrived and he was injured when he left. Actually, I honestly don’t remember one single time when he was fit.”
I mean, I'm sure there are other nationalities we shouldn't let into the country, er, club too. But definitely not Italians.
Carra doesnt say we shouldnt sign Italians.
He says we shouldnt have signed shit.
Balotelli is a great example; I hate the idea of signing him.
But I could understand the risk; he had quality and we were getting him for about 15 million, half of what Citeh paid fir him.
If he had come in with the genuine desire to perform we could have had a bargain.
The problem isnt nationality, the problem is our scouting is rubbish for the most part.
He says we shouldnt have signed shit.
Balotelli is a great example; I hate the idea of signing him.
But I could understand the risk; he had quality and we were getting him for about 15 million, half of what Citeh paid fir him.
If he had come in with the genuine desire to perform we could have had a bargain.
The problem isnt nationality, the problem is our scouting is rubbish for the most part.
I think the problem is that their best players never played here.
I bet players like De Rossi, Totti, Del Piero, Maldini, Pirlo, Baggio, Ferrarra, Buffon, Zambrotta etc in their prime would have made it in the prem.
Vialli played his best football in Italy so did, D.Baggio (Blackburn), Ravanelli (Boro), Lombardo (Crystal Palace), Mancini (Leicester). They joined when they were in their 30s I think.
It's always great to see you, Avvy old mate, so I don't like disagreeing, but I'm afraid I just don't buy this argument. I might have if the same people had been in charge all the way through, but unfortunately this is something which has kept on happening throughout a series of different LFC regimes, managers and scouting set-ups. Do I know why? No, I don't. But is that a reason for refusing to learn the clear lesson contained in such a history?
Oh absolutely - clearly Italy have produced some cracking players over the years, but if you think about it, it's not just an England thing - I'd struggle to name Italians that've excelled in any top European league other than Italy.
I'm sure there will be some, and it's a valid point that the best haven't really played in other leagues at their peak.
If i supported a European team, I would not want my club to sign an English player especially an expensive one.
Italians don't travel well. In football or global conflicts.
Zola is probably the best known Italian in this country, and most successful, but most don't want to leave Italy until the latter part of their career, for money, if they leave at all. Vialli another, although he was past his best when he arrived. Maybe it's the proximity of San Marco and lots of nice Italians restaurants on the King's Road?
Just don't expect an Italian to settle in the NorthEast or West
Look at Giacherrini, a moping non-entity on the bench at fucking Sunderland, but looks quality playing for Italy. Another who failed to settle and couldn't wait to return home.
Paul Ince and Gazza? Really don't know.
England's had a better and richer league than anywhere in the world apart from arguably Spain in the last 15 years or so. So other than Real or Barca, where would you go? Bayern?
But while there have been exceptions over the years, Platt, Ince, Gazza, Walker and a few others, I suppose if I was a Juve or Milan fan, I wouldn't be too excited about a UK player joining either, because the best ones don't tend to go to Serie A.
I'd agree with Brendan. I know it's a massive generalisation and probs a bit xenophobic, but anecdotally every Italian I've ever known has loved Italy massively and to the detriment of everywhere else. I sort of get it, they have a lot going for them, and I can see why someone brought up there would take one look at the kind of northern towns that their agents are trying to get them to move to and just think Fuck Right Off. And the odd one that gets here by mistake just pines for decent climate, food and women until they get to leave.
I understand that because the Premiership is probably the most lucrative in the game means that there really isn't an imperative for home players to move abroad.
Yet I think even historically, in the pre Sky /Premier League era very few home grown players played in foreign leagues.
Is it that the skill set that makes them good players here, doesn't translate abroad so successfully.
The same questions can probably be asked of Italians and more broadly, successful players form the Italian league.
Traditionally the Italian league seems to have been slower and more tactically based than the Premiership though I would have thought there is a lot more to it than that
yeah but it's not like there were zillions of foreign players here prior to sky either. Look at our last title winning sides. Molby, Johnson, Grobellaar. But hardly any compared to now. I don't think how it was 30 years ago is relevant. Right now you're gonna earn more playing in the Championship than at a medium sized club in any league in Europe.
I know that the movement of players into the country only probably started in the late seventies but even throughout the eighties and early nineties, which was the golden era for the Italian league of sorts, there was little or no movement of English/British and even Irish players abroad.
I am not convinced that the same occurrence today is simply down to finances (though it does obviously play a significant part)
Perhaps as you say with regards the Italians not travelling well too many players miss their egg and chips.😉
If you live in Italy and make a decent living, why the fuck would you move to England anyway?
You've already got great weather, great food and lovely women. Wont get much of that in England.
Its not like you move to a top team in the Premier league these days to have a decent shot at the Champions league anyway.
Moneywise then obviously it makes sense. You'd double or tripple your wages in England, probably.
You've already got great weather, great food and lovely women. Wont get much of that in England.
Its not like you move to a top team in the Premier league these days to have a decent shot at the Champions league anyway.
Moneywise then obviously it makes sense. You'd double or tripple your wages in England, probably.
Hahaha. Fuck me.
Italy is the gweatest! It's all amazing! All the women are de most bootiful! All the sunny weathers! And the yummy food! Why ever you want leave??!!
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