Job security - arne

[Woland]

There is far too much noise to get to the bottom of the problem. It's so chaotic it needs to be addressed at the top. Chop the head off the snake and audit what we have, because the only thing that's clear is that what we have is a lot of very good footballers with no serious direction.

 

[keniget]

like they say in health and safety rules are made with blood, it cost points and trophies for klopp to learn those things. i suppose it’s only fair to allow slot to learn from his own mistakes but at the same time he has been quick to disregard some of the klopp / premier league ways.

honestly feels like the psg match opened his eyes to something that’s maybe not a good idea with the current squad or the premier league in general.

i’ve never shaken the feeling that he has ridden on klopps coattails thus far but this season is where we’re going to find out if he can do it on his own.

The PSG game has been mentioned a number of times.

PSG have four players up front that are all versatile, fast and excellent dribblers. If we'd used that as the template for our transfer activity, we wouldn't be having these threads right now.

We now have a one paced, one dimensional team that is the total opposite of a dynamic team like PSG. If we played them now, it'd be a cricket score.

 

[peekay]

Agree with all of that, other than the idea that we're a middle class club. We are a very wealthy club, just not quite at the very top.

More Bill Foley than Bill Gates. We have enormous resources. But we do indeed have to punch above our weight to compete at the very top end of the table.

I meant in spirit, not valuation. We are a very wealthy club. But at our core, we are at our best when we think and act middle-class. That is our identity.

 

[mom]

Of course he’s not getting sacked, and he shouldn’t be.

I don't think the timing of the Ibiza thing helped his cause, it definitely smacked of disrespect and didn't look good.

what Ibiza thing?

 

[peekay]

Are we going backwards? Yes
Is there any evidence that he can sort it? No

This only ends one way.

The good news is noone likes him as a human so it won't hurt.

Does likability matter? I feel that we find reasons to like managers and players who are successful, and to dislike them otherwise.

Rafa was an eccentric, warm, and likable person when he started. As the memories of Istanbul faded, he became stubborn and cold.

I bet everyone loved Rodgers when we were pummeling Arsenal and Everton that Spring.

Klopp's greatness was that he actually delivered exciting football and trophies. If we were constantly oscillating between 4th and 7th, I am betting most of us would have found his press conference and the touchline antics tiring.

 

[Woland]

Rafa always seemed distant and authoritative. Brendan was David Brent cosplaying as a footy coach. I bet there's millions of evidence to the contrary on this site but I'm pretty sure I thought that most of the time they were here.

 

[peekay]

Rafa always seemed distant and authoritative. Brendan was David Brent cosplaying as a footy coach. I bet there's millions of evidence to the contrary on this site but I'm pretty sure I thought that most of the time they were here.

That is all true, but as long as they were delivering, did it matter? Rafa may be distant, but it didn't stop folks from carrying around a portrait of him in the League Cup final.

The biggest problem for Slot is that he is delivering on the pitch.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

i hope i seriously eat humble pie on this - but until then, i guess 'fickle' etc will be what i wear as there's just too many problems I see, and *many* are on the manager (NOT all obviously)

 

[Woland]

I haven't got a problem with his personality. Paisley was a notorious tight arsed grump. It just makes it easier when you're not in a bromance with the boss when he leaves than when, for example, Klopp left us all feeling like kids who'd been dumped on prom night.

 

[Bradley]

i hope i seriously eat humble pie on this - but until then, i guess 'fickle' etc will be what i wear as there's just too many problems I see, and *many* are on the manager (NOT all obviously)

I would love him to turn it around, but that's based on hope rather than evidence. The thing with this going back to March is damning.

The options to replace him are the issue.

It's Klopp or stick. Can Klopp go back to working under Edwards and his lads?

 

[Markeh]

The PSG game has been mentioned a number of times.

PSG have four players up front that are all versatile, fast and excellent dribblers. If we'd used that as the template for our transfer activity, we wouldn't be having these threads right now.

We now have a one paced, one dimensional team that is the total opposite of a dynamic team like PSG. If we played them now, it'd be a cricket score.

i think it’s more the midfield he was influenced by, no real defensive player just a set of technically really good players, two of whom are quite small, that completely dictate the game. i don’t think that’ll work in the pl and i think we just spent over 100m on a skinny little german with that very idea in mind.