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Job security - arne

Yeah, I forgot about that one. He just seems like a bit of a snide as well. Taking the piss out of Rooney when he'd finally stopped getting hammered every week, taking the piss out of Szoboszlai for getting beat with Hungary, moaning about low blocks and direct football. Parking the bus at home against Sunderland as well. The Ibiza stuff. I just think he's a bit of a snide, arrogant coward. Or, in a word, Dutch.
I reckon he's part of the very autistic literal Dutch and prob gets angry when someone shouts keep it on the deck cos it's grass not wood
 
For the calendar year 2025, Arne Slot’s win percentage as manager of Liverpool FC was 51%.

While his overall win rate at Liverpool remained higher (approximately 63.9% by late December), his performance in the 2025 calendar year alone was significantly lower due to a difficult second half of the year.

2025 Calendar Year Breakdown
Across the entire 2025 calendar year, Slot's record at Liverpool reflected a season of two halves:
  • Total Matches Managed: 49–51 (depending on exact end-of-year scheduling).
  • Total Wins: Approximately 25–26 wins across all competitions in the calendar year.
  • Performance Dip: A significant "crisis point" occurred late in the year, with 18 losses recorded throughout 2025, including nine defeats in a span of 12 games during the autumn.

Comparative Statistics (as of Dec 31, 2025)


  • 2024–25 Season Win %: 67.9% (38 wins in 56 games).
  • 2025–26 Season Win % (Start of season to Dec 2025): 55.6% (15 wins in 27 games).

Our current form indicates we should expect somewhere around 4th as many of the lads on here have said.
  • Premier League Calendar Year Table: Liverpool finished the 2025 calendar year in 4th place with 71 points from 38 league matches.
  • Arne Slot set a club record for managerial losses in a single calendar year with 19 losses in 2025. This contrasts sharply with his record in 2024, where he only lost once across all games for both Feyenoord and Liverpool combined.


    Here are the career loss ratio statistics for Arne Slot, Jürgen Klopp, Brendan Rodgers, Roy Hodgson, and Rafa Benítez as Liverpool managers:
    Roy Hodgson311032.26%
    Brendan Rodgers1664225.30%
    Rafa Benítez3507922.57%
    Jürgen Klopp49187~17.72%
    Arne Slot80 (approx.)19 (approx.)~23.75%



    Analysis
    Roy Hodgson had the highest loss ratio of the listed managers during his short tenure at Liverpool, losing nearly a third of his games.
    Jürgen Klopp maintained the lowest loss ratio across his extensive and highly successful reign, falling below 18%.
    Arne Slot's current loss ratio sits around 23.75% as of December 2025, which is higher than Rafa Benítez's and Brendan Rodgers' final career ratios. This is primarily due to a challenging period in late 2025 where he recorded an unprecedented 19 losses in that calendar year.
 
If we get more than the three points you think, will you be happy and see it as progress?

Its a difficult one as you're asking 2 questions there that can have different answers. I expect us to struggle and i'm going on the lower end of the points spectrum there. The games i've put as draws, maybe we could win. Burnley for example we should win, but i'm not expecting us to.

Would i be happy beating the teams we should beat? Absolutely. Would i see it as progress? No. It's more than just points now. If i see performances that merit more than the predicted 3 points (even if the results aren't there), then absolutely i'll see it as progress.

Realistically if we come away from those 6 games with 12 points then i'll be elated. 9 points and above i'll be accepting. less than 6 and it's a continuation for ol' miserable fabs. Points don't mean progress.

I cannot see us improving how we play though. We didn't when everyone was fit, and now we're picking up injuries i can't see it. If he (by some miracle) starts playing frimpong and giving rio minutes, then maybe. If he drops macca, then maybe. Perhaps giving chiesa more than 10 minutes (not even asking for a start now as he's best as an impact player).
 
Him talking about xG completely proves the point.

He's so fucking scared he's getting everyone to play percentage passes so he can look at the game afterwards and say, well we completed 92% of passes and we commanded the game. That's not how games are won. They're won by players with balls playing difficult passes that makes their stats look shit. Lucas beat Gerrard as far as Opta are concerned because his passes went backwards instead of forwards.

Fuck off. Seriously fuck the fuck off. You fucking boring coward. You fucking stats driven cunt. We're all talking about football getting boring, and it is, but at least if it's boring make us win.

Again, with zero fucking doubt, I'm sure I could get these players playing better than him. We've got a squad full of the best players on earth and he's such a fucking nervous shithouse bollocks he's got them playing the ball in a horseshoe round the halfway line so he can stroke his chin and talk about possession. He hasn't got a fucking clue.
 
Yeah, I have a lot of sympathy for the players. They largely get a free pass for me this season. Except Gakpo, of course.

I can't say it any better than Woland has up there, but that's basically the crux of it. He's a shithouse. And he's got them playing as a load of shithouses. That's why we're not winning games. I watched a bit of City in the first half before against Chelsea. Now, I don't enjoy watching City play, and it's a comparatively poor City side. But they were playing with ten times the urgency and aggression and pace that we do.

It might be overly simplistic to say, and obviously I don't have a clue in a professional capacity, but what the fuck does he have them do on the training ground? Keep ball? It can only be that. Every single day.

We don't beat players for skill. We don't move off the ball. We don't play the ball with pace or urgency. We don't play direct. We don't play with fluidity or incision. We don't press. We don't defend set pieces well. We can't score from set pieces. We're the most unfit team in the league. We don't create chances. We don't shoot from range. We don't put in crosses. What is he actually coaching them on besides keeping the ball along the backline and occasionally into the defensive midfielder?
 
I think we are on the upward curve, after a downward trajectory, but this was funny.

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We played a couple of long passes in the second half, and I thought (hoped) the players had started to ignore Slot's instructions

Yeah, I think I said it in the match thread. Konate did one into the channel and we got a corner out of it. Mac Allister did one a few minutes later and we got another corner.

Klopp used to have the players play long direct balls to their defence and then we'd fight and scrap and win the second ball high up the pitch.

There's none of that now. It's all possession for possession's sake. Sometimes you just have to get the ball into space behind the defence and have the opponent facing their own goal and put the shits up them. They're not scared when they're set in their formation while we're playing it side to side 60 yards from goal across our backline.
 
It’s all gone the way of Brendan, ain’t it? We have one really good season where we dance at the top the manager looks like and is celebrated as a tactical genius. We have a summer where we make a variety of signings that make pundits wonder what magical plan said tactical genius has as none of the players seem to align with the system he played the season before.

Season then starts, turns out he’s trying out the same system but it backfires because none of the players suit the style and all the other teams have basically figured out how to play around the system. The manager then panics and seems to trial a bunch multiple of different formations on the fly mid season, which makes you wonder what he had spent the summer doing. Whilst this all goes on you then start to realise that maybe the system the season before was successful not because the guy in charge was playing some form of 4D chess but in fact he just had one guy scoring an obscene amount of goals painting the cracks over everything else and now he isn’t there scoring those goals it’s just a team that passes sideways thinking it looks clever.

Obvious difference is Slot won the league, but I think him and Brendan have similar flaws. Remember after the Charity Shield where Carragher called out the massive holes in the defence and Slot just laughed him off. At the time I think less of us were willing to read into because not only had the guy won the league but also he had that moment after the United game where he broke down his tactical plan so fluently that we just trusted he had a plan when he clearly didn’t and was just riding off the coat tails.
 
It's basically the same defence and midfield from last year. Whether it is tactics or players' form, it has improved since that shit period of the season. Slot tweaked his midfield to the detriment of the attack, Konate stopped getting his brain farts, we have managed to stop the bleeding and get some points on board. I will call that an improvement.

Now, some of you folks still want attractive football and points on board IMMEDIATELY. You can't have your cake and eat it all the time, especially after that shit period. Make a choice. We are boring to watch yes but we are no longer shipping 3 goals to the likes of PSV, Forest, United.

While everyone have expectations, let's be realistic about it. You want Slot gone, sure, a decision will be made at the end of the season i suspect. And the next 6 games or so will determine his immediate future. If we get something like 12-15 points out of 18, are you folks still going to cry about us being boring? It's mindless and boring calling for Slot's head after every single match regardless of how we do.

For the record I do see some improvements and players getting used to the new changes so I am prepared to give Slot some time, at least for the next 6 PL games.
 
That xG comment made me want to shut his mouth with a stapler
Just for you:

On whether his players were 'guilty' of dropping too deep for Reed's late goal...

That is true, but we've conceded throw-ins and set-pieces quite a lot this season. We have a certain set-up, which the players did, and if the long throw comes in, I think we had the box very well covered. Ideally indeed when then they don't take it long, we come out earlier and faster, but you have to give credit to that incredible strike as well because what are the odds that a ball from over there goes in? I don't think a lot. I think xG-wise this is not a big chance, but we do concede.
 
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If we get rolled over at Arsenal by 4-0 or something, that surely must be time up? Surely?

We can't do worse than this, so might as well roll the dice with a temporary emotional type manager (ex player, connected to club etc) to hopefully breathe some life back into the players and supporters until the end of the season.
 
Slot knows he’s being pushed at the end of the season. So why bother trying anything new for the future. Keep to his “philosophy” whatever that may be, do the bare minimum to get through the next few months and enjoy the big fuck off payment before getting another one in Italy or somewhere.
 
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