John Terry - Case Adjourned
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[quote author=Woland link=topic=48528.msg1475639#msg1475639 date=1328115487]
I don't get how he can play alongside Ferdinandralone when his brother is giving evidence against him.
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What does that nickname mean?
I don't get how he can play alongside Ferdinandralone when his brother is giving evidence against him.
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What does that nickname mean?
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=48528.msg1475655#msg1475655 date=1328119555]
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48528.msg1475639#msg1475639 date=1328115487]
I don't get how he can play alongside Ferdinandralone when his brother is giving evidence against him.
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What does that nickname mean?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3333091.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48528.msg1475639#msg1475639 date=1328115487]
I don't get how he can play alongside Ferdinandralone when his brother is giving evidence against him.
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What does that nickname mean?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3333091.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone
The trial was never going to be today anyway, this was the arraignment.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48528.msg1475602#msg1475602 date=1328110442]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=48528.msg1475545#msg1475545 date=1328106764]
Does that normally happen? That Woodgate/Bowyer trial was during the season wasn't it? I can't think of many others off hand
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No idea mate. It seems quite unusual to me.
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Today was the arraignment, where he gets his opportunity to plead guilty or not guilty. He's in the District Court so they'd do a bunch of them all in a list. Anyone who pleads guilty could be sentenced there and then. Anyone who opts for a trial will be asked to return on the trial date.
It's not unusual for convenient trial dates to be set in the District Court, but putting it back so long kinda makes the District Court system redundant - the whole idea is it can deal quickly with minor offences. His fame/position guaranteed him a bit of leeway there which he wouldn't have gotten in a higher court - like when Gerrard was brought before a higher court a couple of years ago. But then the opposite of that is that I'm pretty certain the fact a jury made the decision weighed heavily in Gerrard's favour. As it would with Terry, but he won't be in front of a jury. Just a judge.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48528.msg1475602#msg1475602 date=1328110442]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=48528.msg1475545#msg1475545 date=1328106764]
Does that normally happen? That Woodgate/Bowyer trial was during the season wasn't it? I can't think of many others off hand
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No idea mate. It seems quite unusual to me.
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Today was the arraignment, where he gets his opportunity to plead guilty or not guilty. He's in the District Court so they'd do a bunch of them all in a list. Anyone who pleads guilty could be sentenced there and then. Anyone who opts for a trial will be asked to return on the trial date.
It's not unusual for convenient trial dates to be set in the District Court, but putting it back so long kinda makes the District Court system redundant - the whole idea is it can deal quickly with minor offences. His fame/position guaranteed him a bit of leeway there which he wouldn't have gotten in a higher court - like when Gerrard was brought before a higher court a couple of years ago. But then the opposite of that is that I'm pretty certain the fact a jury made the decision weighed heavily in Gerrard's favour. As it would with Terry, but he won't be in front of a jury. Just a judge.
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48528.msg1475718#msg1475718 date=1328126191]
So he's free to lead his country into Poland - just like his #1 hero.
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Haha
So he's free to lead his country into Poland - just like his #1 hero.
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Haha
Been stripped of the England captaincy.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48528.msg1476438#msg1476438 date=1328268322]
I don't see why they couldn't have left him as captain of just the white players.
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It would be him and Wayne Bridge only?? :laugh:
I don't see why they couldn't have left him as captain of just the white players.
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It would be him and Wayne Bridge only?? :laugh:
Holt is suggesting that Terry will announce his retirement from international football in the near future
From: @OllieHoltMirror
Sent: 3 Feb 2012 12:28
John Terry believed to be considering announcing retirement from international football. Story on http://t.co/6ppRtnzm
Sent: 3 Feb 2012 12:28
John Terry believed to be considering announcing retirement from international football. Story on http://t.co/6ppRtnzm
That'd be boss. England might actually get somewhere if he fucks off.
Hello again and welcome to Sunday Supplement, the show that everyone watches - everywhere. As you know, we are gathered here today to rage at the injustice of the treatment of the great John 'JT' Terry, a personal friend of all of us here and quite possibly the most wonderful human being ever created by a humble dribble of semen. Gentleman, let's start.
And it came to pass, that an hairy man - Luis Suarez - donneth a most egregious thing, and a smooth man - John Terry - committeth no sin other than to doeth what any other smooth man wouldst doeth when the camel-faced one tryeth to passeth through a needle and-
Er, I'm confused, which is why me voice is shooting up all high and girly and that. Can someone please tell me like when are we talking about Newcastle? What's going on? What IS this?
I hate everything. And everyone. Except for JT. He's my hero, my lover, my world. That's it. End of. I'm choking up here. There are no words.
Look, the England team is crap. Fact. Okay? I know it's very gutsy and controversial for me to say so, but, hey, that's the kind of guy I am. I tell it like it is. So Terry's absence doesn't actually strike me as a massive blow. It's a small blow, yes, but not a massive blow. And frankly I don't care whether Terry said something wrong - let's say allegedly - because it's not as bad - it's not anywhere NEAR as bad - as what I have to put up on a DAILY basis with all of those OBSCENELY insane dullards who call themselves Liverpool fans. My God, they cannot understand pure reason! Only me and Kant have it. People get us confused all the time - I hear them calling me "Kant". "A great big Kant" actually, which I have to admit is flattering. But this degree of persecution-
Actually, Paddy, if I may, I think you're missing the point on this particular occasion. The point is that Luis Suarez is a disgrace for being accused of racism by someone else, whereas John Terry is the victim of a witchhunt for being caught on camera saying something racist. I really am perplexed to the verge of tears to read all of this careless misinformation by my many moral inferiors. Why are there so few clever people in the world today? Why can't people feel as keenly as I do? Why can't people CARE as deeply as I do? If you cut me, do I not bleed? If you-
Lads, lads, lads! This is JT we're talking about! THE JT!! Our leader! Our King! The greatest living Cockney! What we're looking at here [munch munch munch] is a conspiracy [burp] by the nefarious forces [crunch crunch] gathered together in that darkly satanic place [hic] they call Merseyside. Out of pure ENVY [burp] these sad little whiners and whingers have responded to Suarez being caught eating babies and god knows what else [munch hic burp] by screaming blue murder at one of the noblest, prettiest and heroically bruised footballers ever to walk the earth. I would urge the FA to throw the book at Kenny Dalglish [burp], Ian Ayre [burp], John Henry [hic], Bill Shankly [munch], Ken Dodd [berrrrp], Alexi Sayle [hic-berrrp], Jimmy Tarbuck-
I just killed a man! I KILLED 'im! Wiv me bare hands! He's outside in the boot of me car! I KILLED A MAN!!!
Well, sadly for our understandably loyal viewers, that's all we've got time for this week, because our taxis are running and we've left some customers inside them. Don't forget that you can watch it all again in our podcast! Be lucky!
[quote author=themn link=topic=48528.msg1476486#msg1476486 date=1328273885]
From: @OllieHoltMirror
Sent: 3 Feb 2012 12:28
John Terry believed to be considering announcing retirement from international football. Story on http://t.co/6ppRtnzm
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For someone who claims not to be Terry's biographer, he seems to get the scoops on the former former England captain.
From: @OllieHoltMirror
Sent: 3 Feb 2012 12:28
John Terry believed to be considering announcing retirement from international football. Story on http://t.co/6ppRtnzm
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For someone who claims not to be Terry's biographer, he seems to get the scoops on the former former England captain.
Nice one macca. ;D
Barclay really has disappeared up his own fundament nowadays, hasn't he?
Barclay really has disappeared up his own fundament nowadays, hasn't he?
Lawyer type bloke on 5live just commented that Terry has been charged with an offence that would normally lead to a person being banned from football grounds for a certain period of time, if the person committed the offence while in or to/from football ground.
He was saying *if* Terry is found guilty he should face the same punishment as others in same positions.
That would be amazing
He was saying *if* Terry is found guilty he should face the same punishment as others in same positions.
That would be amazing
Everyone in football, especially the media people, are repeating "Of course, JT is innocent until proven guilty. It's so important to remember that."
I heard a load more of this "innocent until proven guilty" chat on BBC Radio 5 Live this evening so I sent them the following email:
Your panel is stressing the importance of the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” in connexion with the John Terry case.
I would point out that Luis Suarez was never accorded this right by the FA committee which investigated Patrice Evra’s allegations against him. Suarez’ character has been blackened by a report which expressly says that it convicted Suarez on what it called “probabilities.”
Of course they didn't read it out.
I heard a load more of this "innocent until proven guilty" chat on BBC Radio 5 Live this evening so I sent them the following email:
Your panel is stressing the importance of the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” in connexion with the John Terry case.
I would point out that Luis Suarez was never accorded this right by the FA committee which investigated Patrice Evra’s allegations against him. Suarez’ character has been blackened by a report which expressly says that it convicted Suarez on what it called “probabilities.”
Of course they didn't read it out.
The FA's regulations do make it a strict liability offence. What Ross insists on disregarding is that those regs.envisage English being the language used. It wasn't in this case and under the "mischief" rule that must make a big difference. The FA itself clearly agrees or it wouldn't have wasted all that time taking all that evidence on the subject, even if its response to that evidence was perverse in the end.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=48528.msg1476936#msg1476936 date=1328360744]
There is no difference; it's not as if I can just claim its not racist if it's a different languange.
The word is still offensive.
Context is still important though, at least for sentencing.
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The bolded bit, I'm afraid, is flat wrong. "Je kunt" (pronounced "ya cunt"😉 means "you can" in Dutch.
There is no difference; it's not as if I can just claim its not racist if it's a different languange.
The word is still offensive.
Context is still important though, at least for sentencing.
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The bolded bit, I'm afraid, is flat wrong. "Je kunt" (pronounced "ya cunt"😉 means "you can" in Dutch.
Yay, this again. Was missing debating this. I'm sick of debating race full fucking stop.
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