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Hopefully this doesn't end up being a Dreamy style kiss of death but...

... he's pretty good, isn't he?

Unlike with previous #2 keepers (like, say, Adrian), I don't really feel all that nervous with him in goal. He seems decent with his feet, comfortable coming off his line and doing the sweeper thing and unlike previous #2 keepers (like, say, Karius) some of the shots directed at our goal get saved.

Saw a snippet in todays gossip that Shay Given is supposedly advising him to leave for regular game time.

Hope we can keep him happy for a while.
 
We should loan him out to a Premier Leauge team (like Henderson to SU) for serious game time and exposure, because he's clearly good enough to be a very solid GK and needs more games to become even better. I wonder if he has a future here considering Ali is pretty young still for a goalie.
 
That interview in the Athletic with Achterberg today is excellent. It does seem we're doing some very good work with our keepers - the staff seem to think that Kelleher is almost as good as Alisson, and the two younger keepers - Pitaluga and Harvey Davies seem to be very highly rated too. Pitaluga looks top class in every clip you can find of him.
 
That interview in the Athletic with Achterberg today is excellent. It does seem we're doing some very good work with our keepers - the staff seem to think that Kelleher is almost as good as Alisson, and the two younger keepers - Pitaluga and Harvey Davies seem to be very highly rated too. Pitaluga looks top class in every clip you can find of him.

Very positive to hear this.
THank you for sharing.
 
That interview in the Athletic with Achterberg today is excellent. It does seem we're doing some very good work with our keepers - the staff seem to think that Kelleher is almost as good as Alisson, and the two younger keepers - Pitaluga and Harvey Davies seem to be very highly rated too. Pitaluga looks top class in every clip you can find of him.

great steaks too.
 
Agreed. I think we should loan him out for a season in the PL too (with a recall option) and promote Pitaluga to be understudy for cups & emergency in-game situations. He has already shown potential to grow into the #1 shirt in the next couple of years.
 
That's because our previous number 2's & a certain number 1 we had required brain surgery for being thick cunts.

Tbf I thought Danny Ward was a decent #2 until Leicester for whatever reason decided to give us 15m!!! for him to be their #2 instead.
 
I love him. Said it in the Leicester match, he looks totally calm whether he's under huge pressure or zero. He's just chill
 
In terms of keepers in the league, outside say Mendy Ederson De Gea Alisson.

How would you rate the next best & is there much between them? For example's your Sa's Fabianski's Guaita's Lloris' Sanchez's Forster's Pope's Kasper's cuz I really dont think a lot seperates them....all of them capable of clangers and all capable of making 4-5 good stops a game.
 
In terms of keepers in the league, outside say Mendy Ederson De Gea Alisson.

How would you rate the next best & is there much between them? For example's your Sa's Fabianski's Guaita's Lloris' Sanchez's Forster's Pope's Kasper's cuz I really dont think a lot seperates them....all of them capable of clangers and all capable of making 4-5 good stops a game.

I'd put Schmeichel slightly ahead of the rest, but I agree there's not a huge amount in it.
 
It's a long time since we've had a second choice keeper who didn't put me on edge every time he played. The kid's got real talent and is an able deputy. I think he still needs to work a bit on his authority / organising skills and telling the defensive line what to do - he's still very much the junior member of our back 5 and maybe that authority only comes with age and experience, but the top keepers all have that.
I'd rather we found a way to keep him happy with us rather than send him out on loan - he's an ideal number 2. With Alisson's injuries he's had decent game time the last few years, but maybe we could look at giving him the odd game against some of the lesser teams in the League as well.
 
In terms of keepers in the league, outside say Mendy Ederson De Gea Alisson.

How would you rate the next best & is there much between them? For example's your Sa's Fabianski's Guaita's Lloris' Sanchez's Forster's Pope's Kasper's cuz I really dont think a lot seperates them....all of them capable of clangers and all capable of making 4-5 good stops a game.
Martinez has been decent since he went to Villa, and he's a proper shithouse as well, which I respect in a keeper.
 
Kelleher really does look the part. I can't remember the last time I was absolutely happy to see our back up keeper playing.

As he looks very comfortable and confident when he does play already though I am not sure what can be gained from loaning him out. We would also find ourselves either having to play Adrian (who is not good enough) or another young keeper who might not be ready.

I'm sure that Kelleher would welcome regular playing time, but on the flipside, he is established number 2 at a big club, he is working with top coaches and top players and he is still only young for a keeper. He'll face the dilemma of whether he can displace Alisson at some time anyway, whether he has a loan in the meantime or not, so hopefully he can stay put.
 
Agreed. I think we should loan him out for a season in the PL too (with a recall option) and promote Pitaluga to be understudy for cups & emergency in-game situations. He has already shown potential to grow into the #1 shirt in the next couple of years.

If we send him out on loan, there is going to be at least a 30 million transfer bid for him next summer. And I highly doubt he is going to come back and be ready to be number 2. He might be our most saleable asset if we want to raise money for transfers, sorry contract extensions, in two years' time.
 
Agreed. I think we should loan him out for a season in the PL too (with a recall option) and promote Pitaluga to be understudy for cups & emergency in-game situations. He has already shown potential to grow into the #1 shirt in the next couple of years.
I don't think you can have a recall option to other PL sides. It's a full season or nothing (at least that's what the rule used to be).

When Kelleher plays, he does look good. My main problem with him, is he gets too many knocks.

Plenty of times in the last couple of years when Alisson has been injured, Kelleher has been too.
 
We should loan him out to a Premier Leauge team (like Henderson to SU) for serious game time and exposure, because he's clearly good enough to be a very solid GK and needs more games to become even better. I wonder if he has a future here considering Ali is pretty young still for a goalie.
So who would play in his place especially as Ali does get occasionally injured, and you're aware our other 2 GKs are Adrian and Karius?
 
So who would play in his place especially as Ali does get occasionally injured, and you're aware our other 2 GKs are Adrian and Karius?

Agreed. I think we should loan him out for a season in the PL too (with a recall option) and promote Pitaluga to be understudy for cups & emergency in-game situations. He has already shown potential to grow into the #1 shirt in the next couple of years.
 


[article]SOCCER is a dynamic game which is constantly changing and evolving.

One of the biggest innovations in recent seasons has been the reinvention of the goalkeeper as an outfielder who passes the ball out.

This remodelled view of the traditional shot stopper is a hallmark of some of the most successful teams in recent times, like Manchester City and Liverpool.

Ireland; who have goalkeepers Caoimhín Kelleher at Liverpool and Gavin Bazunu at Manchester City, are leading this positional overhaul.


To fully understand this tactical revolution, a deep dive into the history books is needed.

The 1970s began with an Ajax team who pressed their way to three consecutive European Cups.

Their style was referred to as Total Football and it involved playing a high-line which pinned the opposition back.

Johan Cruyff was the star of this team and he had an idea to improve the system. He believed that a goalkeeper should act as an outfielder with the responsibility of starting attacks and pushing a defensive line.

He preached this idea to Rinus Michels and the Dutch coach took it on board by selecting Jan Jongbloed for the 1974 World Cup.


The goalkeeper was ‘quick, comfortable sweeping behind his defences, good with his feet and perfect for Total Football’ according to Michael Cox. Jongbloed ended up playing a key role in the Oranje’s run to the final.

One of the first coaches to take inspiration from this era was Arrigo Sacchi.

“As a small boy I was in love with Honvéd, then Real Madrid, then Brazil, all the great sides. But it was Holland in the 1970s that really took my breath away,” he said.

Sacchi took the Total Football template and implemented it at AC Milan when he took over in 1987.

Milan were immediately successful as they won the Scudetto in Sacchi’s first season, and then back to back European Cups.

Their playing style and success led to L'Equipe claiming: “After seeing this Milan, football will never be the same again.”

Sacchi’s work caught the eye of Jürgen Klopp who said “He is one of the most influential coaches in the history of the game and a complete game-changer for me,” in a 2020 interview.

The Liverpool coach is known for his high line, which pushes defences right back. A key aspect of his style of play is a goalkeeper who can pass the ball out. This is where Caoimhín Kelleher excels.

Klopp made sure to note this last month after Liverpool knocked Leicester City out of the Carabao Cup.

“He is an outstanding goalie; with his feet, game understanding, all the goalie skills.”

Back in the 1980s, Cruyff was plotting while Milan dominated. The former Ballon d'Or winner had been appointed Ajax coach in 1985 and he was slowly building a team to fulfil his high pressing vision.

Cruyff’s goalkeeper was academy graduate Stanley Menzo, who was a known passer of the ball. He was later replaced by Edwin van der Sar, another outfielder turned goalkeeper.

“He has a good understanding of space around the goal and he could play out to the defenders,” Dutch goalkeeping coach Frans Hoek described Van der Sar
to Michael Cox.

The Ajax goalkeeper was the backbone of three consecutive Eredivisie titles and the club’s 1995 Champions League success.

A number of future stars took note of his ability to build play from the back. “I was inspired by his style of play and enjoyed the philosophy of Ajax,” goalkeeper Manuel Neuer told France Football.

Over the last ten years Neuer has won nine consecutive Bundesliga titles, five DFB-Pokals, two Champions Leagues, and one World Cup.

In 2020, Kelleher cited the German as his main inspiration in an interview with YouTube show UMM: “He’s so class with his feet. He comes off his line to help the team and he can make unreal saves so obviously when I was growing up as a goalkeeper, watching him was the best thing for me.” Neuer was also coached by Pep Guardiola, who worked under Cruyff at Barcelona in the 1990s.

The Catalan was clearly inspired by his former mentor, who played Carles Busquets as an outfield goalkeeper at Barcelona.

When Pep Guardiola stepped into senior management in 2008, he made sure to implement this system with Víctor Valdés at Barcelona. At Bayern and Manchester City, Guardiola has used Neuer and Ederson in this role.

When Bazunu was playing for Shamrock Rovers, he was known for his ability to pass the ball.

“From an early age, you could see how comfortable he was on the football, he was ahead of most ‘keepers his age. You’d have no problem putting him into an outfield session.

"He was like a holding midfield player where he was comfortable receiving the ball under pressure, playing passes. He was like a little playmaker,” Richie Fitzgibbon, a former League of Ireland goalkeeper who worked with Bazunu, told The 42 last year.


This caught the eye of Man City, and they signed the goalkeeper in 2018.

Bazunu is now on loan at Portsmouth in League One and the City manager gets monthly reports on his progress.

The Premier League champions have high hopes for the Dubliner, who has already trained with Ederson and the first team.

The goalkeeping evolution could mean that Kelleher faces Bazunu one of these days when Liverpool play Man City.

This is one of the standout games in world football, and two Irish goalkeepers could be the face of the fixture.

Should this happen, it won’t be a simple clash between footballers from Cork and Dublin.

It will be an important marker for fifty years of tactical reinvention.
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I'd want an experienced head as number 2, and Keller is getting quite a bit of game time, and considering how much we spend on GK coaches he is at the best place
 
Is it to early to say that he's the best back up keeper we've had for the past 20-25 years?
We did have James/Friedel, Dudek/Westerveld and Reina/Dudek for a year or two.
 
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