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Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

Peston reckons that RBS are going to end up owning us and that the lawyers are working out how they can do it without us going into administration and losing 9 points. Interesting read anyway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/09/why_rbs_looks_set_to_own_liver.html

For those interested in owning Liverpool FC, the important calculation is this one: do they want to pay a premium and buy the club and business now, for something between £420m and £600m, or do they want to wait until it is in the hands of its banks, in the hope of securing Liverpool for more-or-less the £280m value of its bank debt (which includes £40m of penalty fees)?
Anfield



Many would say that harsh commercial logic dictates only one answer.

With the 15 October deadline looming for Royal Bank of Scotland, Liverpool's main creditor, to decide whether to take control of the club, most bidders would surely prefer to wait for the fire sale.

Which is why it looks increasingly likely that Liverpool will - before too long - be the property of Royal Bank of Scotland and the US bank Wachovia (which provided around 25% of the bank debt).

There remain big imponderables, however.

One is whether Royal Bank of Scotland can take control without the business falling into administration - which would lead to a nine-point deduction for Liverpool to its Premier League tally (and, right now, would leave it with an interesting minus four points, which is a bit surreal).

As I understand it, lawyers are beavering away on behalf of RBS to investigate whether the bank can take control while avoiding administration.

Also, for the avoidance of doubt, RBS wants to own Liverpool like Superman craves kryptonite. If, in mid-October, RBS does end up formally in charge, its plan would be pass the club on to a new owner as quickly as humanly possible.
The Kop end of Anfield, circa 1969

The Kop end of Anfield, circa 1969

Finally, here's where those figures of £420m to £600m come from for the price tag if you want to buy Liverpool before the fire sale:
• £600m is what the two US owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett would like for the bank debt and their equity. It would value their equity at more than £300m, providing them with a handsome profit.
• £420m would recoup for Hicks and Gillett the £140m odd they've put into Liverpool's holding company, Kop Holdings, via their Cayman Islands vehicle. It would, in essence, give them their money back without a profit.

There may be some Liverpool supporters who feel it is worth paying Messrs Hicks and Gillett somewhere between £140m and £320m to spare Liverpool FC the humiliation of falling into the clutches of its banks - although the evidence of the fans' blogs and websites appears to be that most supporters would in fact rather stick pins in their eyes before handing a profit to the US duo.

I doubt, however, that any of those supporters have a spare £500m lying about that they don't need right now. Which is why it's a pretty fair bet that RBS will end up owning Liverpool (for a bit).
 
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Hmmm
*changes biggest day in LFC history clock to 15th Oct not 6th Oct*
 
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I want Hicks to loose everything. I want them to suffer. I want them to be badly beaten. Wheres a derranged Liverpool fan when you need one?

If i ever see him ill punch that old man right in the face and suffer the consequences.

Not really im just venting, id maybe trip him up in an airport, pretend it was an accident.

This legalised robbery needs to leave them bankrupt, karma will see to it.
 
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Tom Hicks probably pisses in a cup and throws it out of his mansion window, just to save on his water bill.

His greed knows no bounds.
 
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[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41783.msg1181332#msg1181332 date=1285287388]
I want Hicks to loose everything. I want them to suffer. I want them to be badly beaten. Wheres a derranged Liverpool fan when you need one?

If i ever see him ill punch that old man right in the face and suffer the consequences.

Not really im just venting, id maybe trip him up in an airport, pretend it was an accident.

This legalised robbery needs to leave them bankrupt, karma will see to it.

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I couldn't give a f'ck about it either way TBH. All that matters IMO is that the club (a) gets sold (b) to the right buyers, and that's the top and bottom of it for me. I'd FAR sooner see Hicks get something out of the deal if the alternative is the deal not happening at all.
 
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Can someone just buy the club please?

I will do whatever it takes to convince someone.

* Run naked on the street
* Eat my hat
* Kill someone (now there is a thought)
etc etc.....

The recurring debates about this is doing my head in.
 
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[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=41783.msg1181407#msg1181407 date=1285316807]
Can someone just buy the club please?

I will do whatever it takes to convince someone.

* Run naked on the street
* Eat my hat
* Kill someone (now there is a thought)
etc etc.....

The recurring debates about this is doing my head in.
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Probably the closest you get. I will certainly give you an alibi, so will 1 million others also. No worries there 8)
 
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So it turns out this Erin and Paul who were behind Hicks being seen in Deutsche Bank are one step removed from me, via my friend Dave. Great ARTICLE today in the Wall Street Journal. Flippin 'eck!

[size=12pt]A Texas Tycoon Learns a Lesson: Don't Mess With Liverpudlians
Tom Hicks Owns Flailing U.K. Soccer Club; Fans Take Anger to the Bank—Literally
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By DAVID ENRICH And GREGORY ZUCKERMAN

In the old days, English soccer hooligans settled scores with knives and broken bottles. As Texas billionaire Tom Hicks is learning this week, the weapons of choice these days—camera phones, Twitter and spam emails—can be almost as scary.

Mr. Hicks, co-owner of England's hallowed Liverpool FC, is on the run from a mob of angry fans who blame him for the team's tailspin. The 118-year-old club was one of England's best when he bought it in 2007. Since then, the crippling debt load he took on to buy Liverpool has strained the team's finances and contributed to its woes on the pitch.

Now, Liverpool faithful are waging a fierce campaign to evict the American owner. Their strategy: Scare away banks and other financiers who might throw Mr. Hicks a lifeline, starving Mr. Hicks of needed cash and forcing him to sell. To do that, they are using the tools of the digital age to track Mr. Hicks' efforts to drum up money, then bombard would-be lenders with thousands of irate emails, phone calls and Tweets.

On Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hicks learned firsthand what it's like to be the prey in a digital hunt.

Around 3:40 p.m., as Mr. Hicks sat on a sidewalk bench in midtown Manhattan, he was spotted by Liverpool native Paul Wilson. It occurred to Mr. Wilson, a 35-year-old financial consultant, that the offices of Deutsche Bank AG and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. were on the same street. He guessed that Mr. Hicks and his son, Tom Hicks Jr., might be visiting the banks to plead for funds.

So Mr. Wilson whipped out his BlackBerry, snapped some photos, and zapped the images to his wife, Erin McCloskey. Then he trailed Mr. Hicks walking into the lobby of the building that houses Deutsche.

"I didn't throw my coffee on him, but the thought did cross my mind," Mr. Wilson said Wednesday.

Ms. McCloskey quickly posted the photos on Twitter and explained the circumstances.

Over in Liverpool, the Hicks sighting was like an open-net goal for Alan Kayll, a 40-year-old cab driver who is a ringleader of the anti-Hicks campaign. Mr. Kayll quickly penned a form letter to J.P. Morgan and Deutsche officials urging them not to help Mr. Hicks refinance roughly £200 million ($313 million) that is owed to Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC, stemming from his purchase of the team.

"If you join Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy," his letter read in part. "You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world."

He posted the letter online, along with the email addresses of executives at Deutsche and J.P. Morgan.

An hour later, a senior J.P. Morgan executive had already received 30 emails from Liverpool fans, with new messages landing every few minutes. "It's totally viral right now," the executive said, deleting emails as they arrived. Public-relations staff at Deutsche said they received hundreds.

Neither bank is in talks with Mr. Hicks, said people familiar with the situation. Through a spokesman, Mr. Hicks declined to comment on Tuesday's events or his stewardship of the team.

The team's financial woes have hurt its performance. Liverpool finished last season in seventh place, a disaster for fans accustomed to being in England's top four. A team official said this week that the cost of servicing its debts is depleting club resources. Fans argue that makes it tougher to recruit top players.

Meanwhile, in Manhattan on Tuesday afternoon, the melee was just beginning. Adam Eljarrah, an 18-year-old Liverpool fan attending New York University, saw Ms. McCloskey's Twitter messages. He showed up outside Deutsche's skyscraper on Park Avenue. The pre-med freshman carried a poster, popular among Liverpool supporters in England, declaring that Mr. Hicks and his co-owner are "Not Welcome ANYWHERE."

Mr. Eljarrah says he loitered outside the building for about 45 minutes, hoping to confront Mr. Hicks. Around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Hicks emerged. According to a person familiar with the incident, the younger Mr. Hicks spotted Mr. Eljarrah—identifiable in his red-and-white Liverpool scarf—and told a nearby cop: "This guy is trouble."

As the police officer intercepted Mr. Eljarrah, he says, he waved his sign and yelled, "Get out of our club!"

Liverpool fans aren't the only ones lashing out at American ownership. Manchester United fans have mounted a campaign against the family of American businessman Malcolm Glazer, which owns the team and has loaded it with debt.

In Liverpool, fans who are angling to remove Mr. Hicks are sporting scarves bearing a "Thanks But No Yank$!" slogan.

Lately, financial institutions have borne the brunt of Liverpool's rage. Fans have been flooding RBS with letters and phone calls urging the bank to seize the club and give Mr. Hicks the boot. Top executives' inboxes sometimes have been hit with several hundred emails per day.

A few weeks ago, some fans started a Facebook page encouraging people to boycott RBS. Mr. Kayll, the cab driver, drew up lists of financial institutions Mr. Hicks is believed to have approached, posting them on a website he helps run that urges fans to help oust Mr. Hicks.

The site features an image of a blood-drenched RBS logo. The site's motto: "We will go as far as we need to."

Despite the site's menacing slogan and graphic, Mr. Kayll says his group is "totally against violence. We're a group of passionate fans trying to save their football club. All professional people with families."

The campaign hit Stephen Schwarzman, the billionaire co-founder of Blackstone Partners, whose GSO Capital Partners hedge fund considered participating in a deal to help Mr. Hicks refinance the RBS loan. By Monday, GSO had backed out of the talks. A Blackstone spokesman, Peter Rose, said the emails (including thousands aimed at Mr. Schwarzman) didn't affect GSO's decision not to participate in the deal.

That wasn't the message Mr. Kayll got. Driving his cab in Liverpool Tuesday morning, he says he received a call from London-based GSO executive Michael Whitman. Mr. Kayll says Mr. Whitman told him GSO lost interest in part thanks to the pressure campaign. "He said, 'We understand the passion of Liverpool supporters and obviously took that into consideration,'" Mr. Kayll says.

Mr. Whitman didn't respond to requests for comment. Blackstone acknowledges that Mr. Whitman and Mr. Kayll spoke, but deny he said the email campaign forced GSO out of the deal.

Still basking in victory hours later, Mr. Kayll was euphoric when the Hicks photos from New York dropped into his lap. He crowed: "We know his every move."
 
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Any potential new owners who privately plan to over leverage will certainly be put off by these efforts. I just hope that good, solid prospects won't be also.
 
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As an aside, I sent off those emails to Blackstone, USA media etc and got this reply from Richard Sandomir of the NY Times:

STOP SENDING THIS DAMNED MESSAGE. YOU UNDERMINE YOUR WHOLE CASE WITH THE MEDIA BY SENDING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVE AND OVER. STOP IT RIGHT NOW

I replied telling him to stop shouting as it is rude, and giving him an individual detailed account of Hicks and Gillett's time at the club.
 
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41783.msg1181648#msg1181648 date=1285344259]
As an aside, I sent off those emails to Blackstone, USA media etc and got this reply from Richard Sandomir of the NY Times:

STOP SENDING THIS DAMNED MESSAGE. YOU UNDERMINE YOUR WHOLE CASE WITH THE MEDIA BY SENDING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVE AND OVER. STOP IT RIGHT NOW

I replied telling him to stop shouting as it is rude, and giving him an individual detailed account of Hicks and Gillett's time at the club.


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There you wasted ten minutes of your time.

But at least you tried i guess.
 
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[quote author=Wall Street Journal link=topic=41783.msg1181628#msg1181628 date=1285340947]

In the old days, English soccer hooligans settled scores with knives and broken bottles. As Texas billionaire Tom Hicks is learning this week, the weapons of choice these days—camera phones, Twitter and spam emails—can be almost as scary.

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Errrrrr.......?
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

Americans tend to still associate Britain with football hooliganism, apparently.

Especially in New York.
 
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41783.msg1181648#msg1181648 date=1285344259]
As an aside, I sent off those emails to Blackstone, USA media etc and got this reply from Richard Sandomir of the NY Times:

STOP SENDING THIS DAMNED MESSAGE. YOU UNDERMINE YOUR WHOLE CASE WITH THE MEDIA BY SENDING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVE AND OVER. STOP IT RIGHT NOW

I replied telling him to stop shouting as it is rude, and giving him an individual detailed account of Hicks and Gillett's time at the club.


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Yes because if you sent it once, they really would stand up and take notice...

The Irish associate Britain with hooligans too, but that's another story. 😉

Overall it's a positive article for us.

Somone said that they would be afraid it would scare off investors - for me, it would scare off the leverage merchants, but honestly in the real world, when you get screwed you speak up. What we're doing is pretty normal behavior. We're standing up to be counted!
 
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[quote author=RMA link=topic=41783.msg1181224#msg1181224 date=1285261766]
What do you guys think of the below figures?

German-based sports consultancy, Sport + Markt, said Barcelona’s European fan base had risen from 44.1m in 2008-09 to 57.8m last season.

But although Barcelona’s fan base is far bigger than the next most popular club, Real Madrid, its Spanish rivals are far more accomplished at making money out of their fans, the consultancy said in a report on Europe’s most popular clubs, published on Thursday.


Measuring the fan base against turnover, Sport + Markt concludes that each European fan of Barcelona is generating €6.30 ($8) in turnover, whereas all its major rivals are making double-digit amounts from each of their fans.


Bayern Munich, for example, is generating €14 per fan, Liverpool €13.30 and Arsenal €12.90. Real Madrid makes €12.80 out of each fan.

While Inter Milan grew its fan base from 10.2m to 17.5m, Real Madrid suffered a decline of 10m to 31m, the consultancy said.

Sport + Markt reached their findings based on a poll of 10,200 people conducted in May across 17 countries
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They make me convinced that there at least 1 mill people over the world who would be more than happy for a membership in LFC if it cost 200 pounds a year and the members own the club.
 
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The cost off the season ticket for 40000 people would naturally be added on to that 200 though obviously
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41783.msg1181721#msg1181721 date=1285358425]
The cost off the season ticket for 40000 people would naturally be added on to that 200 though obviously
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Of course. Or skip the season ticket scheen and let members prepurchase tickets at discounted prices.
 
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[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41783.msg1181709#msg1181709 date=1285353710]
[quote author=RMA link=topic=41783.msg1181224#msg1181224 date=1285261766]
What do you guys think of the below figures?

German-based sports consultancy, Sport + Markt, said Barcelona’s European fan base had risen from 44.1m in 2008-09 to 57.8m last season.

But although Barcelona’s fan base is far bigger than the next most popular club, Real Madrid, its Spanish rivals are far more accomplished at making money out of their fans, the consultancy said in a report on Europe’s most popular clubs, published on Thursday.


Measuring the fan base against turnover, Sport + Markt concludes that each European fan of Barcelona is generating €6.30 ($8) in turnover, whereas all its major rivals are making double-digit amounts from each of their fans.


Bayern Munich, for example, is generating €14 per fan, Liverpool €13.30 and Arsenal €12.90. Real Madrid makes €12.80 out of each fan.

While Inter Milan grew its fan base from 10.2m to 17.5m, Real Madrid suffered a decline of 10m to 31m, the consultancy said.

Sport + Markt reached their findings based on a poll of 10,200 people conducted in May across 17 countries
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They make me convinced that there at least 1 mill people over the world who would be more than happy for a membership in LFC if it cost 200 pounds a year and the members own the club.
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u mad?
 
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[quote author=crump link=topic=41783.msg1181747#msg1181747 date=1285366714]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41783.msg1181709#msg1181709 date=1285353710]
[quote author=RMA link=topic=41783.msg1181224#msg1181224 date=1285261766]
What do you guys think of the below figures?

German-based sports consultancy, Sport + Markt, said Barcelona’s European fan base had risen from 44.1m in 2008-09 to 57.8m last season.

But although Barcelona’s fan base is far bigger than the next most popular club, Real Madrid, its Spanish rivals are far more accomplished at making money out of their fans, the consultancy said in a report on Europe’s most popular clubs, published on Thursday.


Measuring the fan base against turnover, Sport + Markt concludes that each European fan of Barcelona is generating €6.30 ($8) in turnover, whereas all its major rivals are making double-digit amounts from each of their fans.


Bayern Munich, for example, is generating €14 per fan, Liverpool €13.30 and Arsenal €12.90. Real Madrid makes €12.80 out of each fan.

While Inter Milan grew its fan base from 10.2m to 17.5m, Real Madrid suffered a decline of 10m to 31m, the consultancy said.

Sport + Markt reached their findings based on a poll of 10,200 people conducted in May across 17 countries
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They make me convinced that there at least 1 mill people over the world who would be more than happy for a membership in LFC if it cost 200 pounds a year and the members own the club.
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u mad?
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The court use the word crazy, but thats just a minor difference I guess?
 
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Here's Hicks latest idea.

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1416995/000095012310061361/d73962sv1.htm#tocpage

Hicks Acquisition Company II, Inc. is a newly organized blank check company formed for the purpose of effecting a merger, capital stock exchange, asset acquisition, stock purchase, reorganization or similar business combination with one or more businesses, which we refer to throughout this prospectus as our initial business combination. We have not identified any acquisition target and we have not, nor has anyone on our behalf, initiated any substantive discussions with an entity that we will acquire in our initial business combination. We are not limited to a particular industry, geographic region or minimum transaction value for purposes of consummating an initial business combination. HH-HACII, L.P., which we refer to throughout this prospectus as our sponsor, our officers and directors have agreed that we will have only 21 months from the closing of this offering to consummate our initial business combination.

This is an initial public offering of our securities. We are offering 20,000,000 units. Each unit has an offering price of $10.00 and consists of one share of our common stock and one warrant. Each warrant entitles the holder to purchase one share of our common stock at a price of $12.00, subject to adjustment as described in this prospectus. The warrants will become exercisable on the later of 30 days after the completion of our initial business combination or 12 months from the closing of this offering, provided that in each case we have an effective registration statement covering the shares of common stock issuable upon exercise of the warrants and a current prospectus relating to them is available, and will expire five years after the completion of our initial business combination, unless earlier redeemed. We have also granted the underwriters a 45-day option to purchase up to an additional 3,000,000 units to cover over-allotments, if an
 
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[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=41783.msg1183049#msg1183049 date=1285521571]
Here's Hicks latest idea.

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1416995/000095012310061361/d73962sv1.htm#tocpage

Hicks Acquisition Company II, Inc. is a newly organized blank check company formed for the purpose of effecting a merger, capital stock exchange, asset acquisition, stock purchase, reorganization or similar business combination with one or more businesses, which we refer to throughout this prospectus as our initial business combination. We have not identified any acquisition target and we have not, nor has anyone on our behalf, initiated any substantive discussions with an entity that we will acquire in our initial business combination. We are not limited to a particular industry, geographic region or minimum transaction value for purposes of consummating an initial business combination. HH-HACII, L.P., which we refer to throughout this prospectus as our sponsor, our officers and directors have agreed that we will have only 21 months from the closing of this offering to consummate our initial business combination.

This is an initial public offering of our securities. We are offering 20,000,000 units. Each unit has an offering price of $10.00 and consists of one share of our common stock and one warrant. Each warrant entitles the holder to purchase one share of our common stock at a price of $12.00, subject to adjustment as described in this prospectus. The warrants will become exercisable on the later of 30 days after the completion of our initial business combination or 12 months from the closing of this offering, provided that in each case we have an effective registration statement covering the shares of common stock issuable upon exercise of the warrants and a current prospectus relating to them is available, and will expire five years after the completion of our initial business combination, unless earlier redeemed. We have also granted the underwriters a 45-day option to purchase up to an additional 3,000,000 units to cover over-allotments, if an
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reading almost daily hick's plans to raise the money to take rbs out of the equation is making me sick, because he 'may' actually pull a rabbit out of the hat.
 
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Hopefully he will get fuck all interest in this crazy idea, and he will end up a broken broke man.
 
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Yeah, I know what you mean. You just now he's going to pull a rabbit out of his lardy ass and fuck us royally over again. Or that RBS will give him an extension.

Hopefully though, there are some interested parties looming about, and will make a bid closer to the deadline if the asking price drops from the ridiculous amount the owners have set. Could of course be wishful thinking.
 
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That vehicle has been set up for three months and hasn't got anywhere.
 
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if he gets refinancing, our only recourse is to boycott the club and bring him to his knees. Seriously.
 
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The more I think about it, the more I think this should be put on the table to make it clear to any "refinanciers" if they give him money, they'll be screwed because we'll be putting him out of business.

God, how did we end up with such an AWFUL owner.
 
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I am not only a former Liverpool player and manager but a Liverpool fan as well, someone who cares deeply about the club. It is in that spirit that I'm using my column this week to address other Liverpool supporters in what I hope is an open and truthful way about the club's current situation and where we go from here.
If minds were not focused already that this is a difficult and transitional period for the club, the midweek Carling Cup exit at Anfield against Northampton Town, of League Two, has certainly done so.

Disaster is a very emotive word that doesn't sit well describing a football result, so we should steer clear of clichés like that.
There is no doubt it was a hugely disappointing night that followed on from defeats by Manchester United and Manchester City in the Premier League. I wrote last week that defeat at Old Trafford last Sunday would realistically mean our chances of winning the Premier League title would be over in September. But the way Liverpool played in the last half hour against Sunderland and their attitude will hold them in good stead, even though it has been a difficult start to the season.

I can understand why recent results must have come as a huge shock to Liverpool fans. Two or three generations have known only success and you'd have to go back to the pre-Bill Shankly days of 1959 for anything similar to Northampton. But there mustn't be any hiding or excuses from the players even if Liverpool's current predicament is not ideal. If they let things get on top of them, the club has no chance.

Everyone knows the ownership situation but that should never affect how the players prepare or perform. There is no reason experienced internationals should be distracted from their jobs and they shouldn't need Roy Hodgson to remind them.
If the club is up for sale, the best way for players to deal with it is to get results on the pitch and make it a more attractive proposition to buy.
I never celebrated winning a trophy at Liverpool by thinking: 'It's all down to the owners - they are brilliant.' So if owners don't receive credit then, neither can players look to blame them or anyone else in defeat.
Maybe Roy will be able to improve the team if new owners come in by shopping at the more exclusive end of the transfer market. But that doesn't give the current players a get-out to avoid responsibility.
MY message to them would be to leave the business side of things for managing director Christian Purslow to be concerned about.
While you find in any walk of life people who don't need much encouragement to find excuses, we don't want them at Liverpool right now.

There are fans, of course, who have a grievance with the American owners and there is no reason to stop any peaceful protests if they feel that is the right thing to do.
After all, they have supported the club fantastically in the past. Tom Hicks and George Gillett have put the club up for sale and want to sell. But they, and we, can't just grab someone off the street and make them buy the club to ensure a change of ownership.
It is not as if buying Liverpool is loose change in somebody's pocket, you are talking about sums of money that not too many people have at their disposal. Investors will be looking to see what returns they might get because there are no guarantees at the moment. Who knows what the value of football clubs is going to be in years to come?

At the moment, there is a recession, people are losing their jobs and some fans are finding it hard to afford to go to matches with their children.
So there are no foregone conclusions. No guarantees. You put your house up for sale, it doesn't automatically mean it is sold. Christian is scouring the market and he's helped by Liverpool having so much to offer - tradition, history, values and worldwide recognition. But at the end of the day, you've still got to find a buyer.
The perfect scenario would be for someone to come in, clear the debt, give Roy a fortune to spend in the transfer market and build a new stadium. But that doesn't necessarily mean it is going to happen and of the three segments, maybe the one you could possibly place third in the list of importance is the stadium. It is really important that the debt gets cleared to give people a chance to work and I think it is really important that Roy has a sizeable budget.
I am sure anyone with new ideas would be listened to. If someone came in and said he could clear the debt and give Roy a budget for players but couldn't afford to build a stadium, it might be something for people more intelligent than me to look at.
It's probably true that more people are becoming sympathetic to a ground-share with Everton if a third party came forward able to build it, with the two clubs renting. Again, it is not the ideal situation: that would be to keep the two clubs in two separate stadiums with vibrant atmospheres of their own.
But this is not an ideal time for either club and I'm sure they would sit down and have a conversation with each other about it if there was a feeling it would be beneficial. It's not anyone's personal views that is important - it is about what is best thing for the club. I don't know if it will ever happen but maybe you need a few people to sit down and say that although it's not what they want in a perfect world, it's worth looking at.
Whoever is in a position of responsibility at Liverpool and Everton are only custodians for the next generation of supporter. They owe it to the fans to look at every possibility to help their respective clubs.


Kenny Dalglish.
 
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