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LFC SOLD to NESV.

Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Well broughton seems positive about nesv and is convinced no debt on the club, he talked more bout nesv than Henry himself which is also good as far as I am concerned. Said that nesv has little debt and lots of wealthy contributors. And hicks n gillette are being twits whose plan he thinks won't work.
 
Re: Club Refinance Thread

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But ESPNsoccernet has also been told that the legal battle could be long and messy."Who knows how long that could take, it could take a long time," a Liverpool source revealed.
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This is my biggest concern now.
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This is what i said last night, this could take years to resolve with high court and appeals, because this is where it's likely to end up. And whilst the club is in legal limbo we won't be able to do nothing.
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It's unlikely to go that way. Any attempt by H and G to drag things out would be strongly resisted and the court would have to have regard to many other people's interests as against H and G's. If (as is likely) things didn't go as H and G want, it's not automatic that they'd get leave to appeal. Meanwhile all this will be costing them money, lots of money, that they don't have to spare.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41783.msg1189939#msg1189939 date=1286363194]
Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton has spoken exclusively to Sky Sports News about the proposed sale of the club.

Broughton has confirmed that the agreed deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV), the parent company of the Boston Red Sox baseball club, is worth around £300million.

He also says the prospective new owners are considering re-developing Anfield, rather than moving to a new stadium.

Oh wow. What a fucking surprise.

Hahahahahaha

*cries*
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Easy mathematics. If they rise the entrance fee to the double we have gained a lot on other teams??
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Thats pretty much what they did with the red sox.
 
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Would people be happy for a sizeable increase in tickets for essentially the same product in the same venue?
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41783.msg1189939#msg1189939 date=1286363194]
Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton has spoken exclusively to Sky Sports News about the proposed sale of the club.

Broughton has confirmed that the agreed deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV), the parent company of the Boston Red Sox baseball club, is worth around £300million.

He also says the prospective new owners are considering re-developing Anfield, rather than moving to a new stadium.

Oh wow. What a fucking surprise.

Hahahahahaha

*cries*
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Give over Brendan cmon... we don't know yet and anyway maybe seeing as Anfield is virtually derelict now we would get permission to increase the capacity at Anfield.

It's not necessarily a disaster, and i venture it is better than watching us die under Hicks.
 
Re: Club Refinance Thread

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But ESPNsoccernet has also been told that the legal battle could be long and messy."Who knows how long that could take, it could take a long time," a Liverpool source revealed.
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This is my biggest concern now.
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This is what i said last night, this could take years to resolve with high court and appeals, because this is where it's likely to end up. And whilst the club is in legal limbo we won't be able to do nothing.
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It's unlikely to go that way. Any attempt by H and G to drag things out would be strongly resisted and the court would have to have regard to many other people's interests as against H and G's. If (as is likely) things didn't go as H and G want, it's not automatic that they'd get leave to appeal. Meanwhile all this will be costing them money, lots of money, that they don't have to spare.
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You would suspect that Broughton has used his much vaunted network here - first RBS make veryu clear noises that no refinancing will be accepted, next the Prem give the non-owners another big stick by telling them a 9 point deduction is unlikely should they want to take G&H to the brink, then a well skilled buy out group comes in with just the right bid at a big pinch point (even when the club ownership is in disarray).

It may not be a fairy tale ending, but it sure as fuck looks well orchestrated and efffective in removing G&H.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Would people be happy for a sizeable increase in tickets for essentially the same product in the same venue?
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I think that's the key issue. Performances, by manager as well as players, would have to majorly improve. If they do, my bet is people will - however reluctantly from the financial point of view - go along with it.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Redevelopment could mean bigger stands

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Which, I dunno about anyone else, I think would be the best possible solution. I hate the thought of leaving Anfield, if it can be avoided be increasing the capacity, that would be great, but presumably all avenues to try to this have already been exhausted?
 
Re: Club Refinance Thread

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But ESPNsoccernet has also been told that the legal battle could be long and messy."Who knows how long that could take, it could take a long time," a Liverpool source revealed.
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This is my biggest concern now.
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This is what i said last night, this could take years to resolve with high court and appeals, because this is where it's likely to end up. And whilst the club is in legal limbo we won't be able to do nothing.
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It's unlikely to go that way. Any attempt by H and G to drag things out would be strongly resisted and the court would have to have regard to many other people's interests as against H and G's. If (as is likely) things didn't go as H and G want, it's not automatic that they'd get leave to appeal. Meanwhile all this will be costing them money, lots of money, that they don't have to spare.
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You would suspect that Broughton has used his much vaunted network here - first RBS make veryu clear noises that no refinancing will be accepted, next the Prem give the non-owners another big stick by telling them a 9 point deduction is unlikely should they want to take G&H to the brink, then a well skilled buy out group comes in with just the right bid at a big pinch point (even when the club ownership is in disarray).

It may not be a fairy tale ending, but it sure as fuck looks well orchestrated and efffective in removing G&H.
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Nail/head interface.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

From the official site :-

Liverpool FC Chairman Martin Broughton has spoken about why he believes New England Sports Ventures are the perfect fit for LFC and why he's confident the sale decision could be completed by close of business next week.

In an exclusive interview with LFC TV, Broughton also thanked fans for their patience during the sales process and outlined the potential new owner's plans for the club.

Martin, it's been quite a dramatic 24 hours in terms of the sales process. Can you explain exactly what the situation is right now?

It certainly has been dramatic. The latest position is that we have a sale agreement in place, we've agreed the sale to New England Sports Ventures, that sale is subject to a number of conditions like Premier League approval and other normal conditions. The specific additional condition is that it's subject to confirmation that the Board acted validly in drawing up the sale documents.

Last night fans read a statement on the official website claiming that the owners had sought to remove Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre from the Board. What was the reasoning behind this and were the owners successful?

The court will ultimately decide whether the owners were successful. The reasoning behind it was that the owners felt we were reviewing two bids which they considered undervalued the club and therefore they wished to remove Christian and Ian and replace them with Mack Hicks, who is Tom's son, and Lori McCutcheon, who also works with him.

We don't think it was valid to do it. Essentially when I took the role they gave a couple of written undertakings to Royal Bank of Scotland. Those written undertakings included that I was the only person entitled to change the board and that was written into the articles of the covenants, and also that they would take no action to frustrate any reasonable sale. And I think they flagrantly abused both of those written undertakings.

You announced on Tuesday night that the club received two excellent offers. Why, in your opinion, is New England Sports Ventures the right new owner for Liverpool Football Club?

I think both of them would have been excellent new owners. New England have a lot of experience in developing, investing in and taking Boston Red Sox - as the closest parallel - from being a club with a wonderful history, a wonderful tradition that had lost the winning way, and bringing it back to being a winner. Their commitment to winning is what it's all about there and they've extended it from Boston Red Sox to Nascar and other things, but Red Sox is the main one.

I have been meeting them now for several weeks in Boston, in Liverpool, in London, and I feel they are totally committed to supporting and getting the winning mentality back into the team.

Is their winning mentality the thing which has impressed you most about them during this period?

Yes. Their commitment is to winning on the pitch and that helps you win off the pitch too. The two are mutually reinforcing.

Fans have already got lots of questions, with three of the main ones being:

a) Will the debt burden be removed completely?

To all intents and purposes, yes. All of the acquisition debt that was involved in the current owners acquisition will be removed completely. We'll still have what we call normal working capital debt and there's a facility there for the new stadium which will remain in place, but to all intents and purposes all the major debt that has been causing our problem has been paid off.

b) Have the proposed new owners committed to investing in the playing squad?

Yes. They don't want any hostages to fortune, very sensibly, so they're not going to make any comments about how much or anything like that. But this goes back to the winning mentality. I think the demonstration is: let's look at what they have done at Boston, what they said in Boston, what they have done in terms of investing in players - and I think you get a high degree of confidence of their willingness to do that.

c) Is there a commitment from them to progress the new stadium project?

Yes, there's definitely a commitment to invest in a stadium and we will finish up with a 60,000+ seater stadium. Where they haven't finalised their view is whether that should be the new stadium or whether there are still opportunities to build at Anfield itself. They have done both. The people involved have built the new stadium at Baltimore Orioles, for example, and at Fenway Park they looked at the two options and decided that actually redevelopment with all of the tradition was better than a new stadium. So they have done both, they are committed to looking at both very professionally and seeing which is the best option, but there will be stadium development.

Just to clarify, what needs to happen now for the sale to be finalised?

The key thing is the court case. We need to go to the court to get a declaratory judgement, which is for the court to declare that we did act validly in completing the sale agreement, and then the buyers can complete the sale. We have to get Premier League approval and I'm certain that's not going to be an issue. There are one or two minor things like that but the key issue is the court, which should meet I would think next week sometime. That is the most likely time, in short order.

Can the owners block the sale of LFC to New England Sports Ventures?

Well, we have to win the court case. So effectively yes, if they win the court case they can block the sale. But then we may have one or two other thoughts in mind as well.

Could the sale process be dragged through the courts for months before a resolution is reached?

No, I don't think so. We should get a declaratory judgement I would have thought probably by the end of next week, in short order. There is an appeal process but that is also very fast.

How confident are you that Liverpool Football Club will soon be officially under new ownership?

I am confident. I wouldn't have taken the Board through that process yesterday if I hadn't been confident. I wouldn't have exposed everybody to that risk if I hadn't been confident, but you can never be certain. These things are legal judgements. We have been properly advised and I am confident.

Looking back, how thorough has the process been to identify the best new owners for the Club and how pleased are you with the final outcome?

Ideally one would have had buyers who were not only the best buyers but also satisfied the owners. That's what we were looking for and we haven't managed to do that second piece of it. Has it been exhaustive? Absolutely. We have, first of all through BarCap, contacted every plausible buyer. The media coverage has meant that you would have to be living on Planet Zog not to know that Liverpool was for sale and so if you had any interest in it you had the opportunity. We've talked to lots of potential people. At the end of the day, with the deadline for debt repayment looming we had two bidders, both very viable bidders. I think they were competing, there was competitive tension there and I think that demonstrates that we have the market price.

Finally Martin, what is your message to the Liverpool fans?

Keep the faith. We said we would deliver the best buyers for the club and I think we have delivered exactly that. I know they've been frustrated by not getting a running commentary and I know a fan wants to know what's going on. I thank them for their patience because I do believe the only way you really get these things done is out of the media glare and it's difficult to do it out of the media glare, but we've found the right owners. I thank them for their patience, their support, keep the faith, this is going to work. They're with us.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

the bottom line is the stadium holds 60+ thousand so whether they do that anfield or stanley park, who cares? the important thing is they are commited to increasing the revenue by increasing the capacity.
for the record the new owners have built a new stadium in the past and increased the capacity of an existing stadium, they have experience of both.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Bleacher Report:

"The problem lies in the fact that Henry’s group was highly leveraged when they bought the Red Sox, so they need to keep the team winning to pay the bills. This is why Theo Epstein once quit the Red Sox. He wanted to step back for a season and regroup to set the franchise up for the long haul. The people who control the money wanted to win each and every year, because that’s how they pay the bills".
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They wanted to win every year? Those ruthless, money-grabbing BASTARDS!
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No, you flid, they had a business model that required it, because it was a higly-leveraged buy-out and the debt was so high. This also meant that the Red Sox have had prices increased to such a level that they are the second-most exepensive team to watch in the country. And they can't afford a new stadium either.


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i'm not sure if that last bit is right - what i read was that their fans revolted at the prospect of leaving their old ground, so instead it was rebuilt and higher prices charged to compensate for the small capacity. could be wrong, though.
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Broughton just said that they invested 250mil to redevelop their ground instead of building a new one. He also stated that our potential new owners would look at the possability of doing a similar thing with Anfield. Either way a 60,000 seat stadium would be on the agenda
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41783.msg1189939#msg1189939 date=1286363194]
Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton has spoken exclusively to Sky Sports News about the proposed sale of the club.

Broughton has confirmed that the agreed deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV), the parent company of the Boston Red Sox baseball club, is worth around £300million.

He also says the prospective new owners are considering re-developing Anfield, rather than moving to a new stadium.

Oh wow. What a fucking surprise.

Hahahahahaha

*cries*
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Easy mathematics. If they rise the entrance fee to the double we have gained a lot on other teams??
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Thats pretty much what they did with the red sox.
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Yep I read that the fan's opposed moving from Fenway Park so they redeveloped it.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

The redevelopement of Anfield would cost even more than building a new stadium. They can't expand the kop and from what I heard redevloping would involve turning the ground 90 degrees so the main stand is where the kop is and centenary stand is where anfield road is. Thius would severely effect our revenue for a good number of seasons.

I'm sorry we need to have a new ground built and stanley park is perrfect for it. You even have the chance of expanding you just simply don't have this at the current site.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

I thought there was a reason why we couldnt redevelop Anfield?
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

I know this, if it ever costs £100 or more for 2 tickets to the match, then I'll never go another.
 
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The redevelopement of Anfield would cost even more than building a new stadium. [/quote]

You don't know that.

Plus it sounds very unlikely. I'd love it if they could redevelop Anfield to accommodate 60k fans.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Any chance of opening up a new thread for this? Without the "all" function + the high number of posts, its getting a right pain in the arse to keep up.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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I know this, if it ever costs £100 or more for 2 tickets to the match, then I'll never go another.
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Which is does at most top premiership grounds by the way. Arsenal tickets start at about £48, I think.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Good interview with a football debt expert named Stephen Schecter on SSN.

He's of the view that Henry is going to link up with Tom Werner also of NESV (he ofCasey-Werner) to aggressively market the club globally.

Also thinks that Henry will seriously consider groundshare possibilities.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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The redevelopement of Anfield would cost even more than building a new stadium. [/quote]

You don't know that.

Plus it sounds very unlikely. I'd love it if they could redevelop Anfield to accommodate 60k fans.
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When they where orignally talking about building the new ground, moores and parry checked how viable it would be to redevlop anfield and they found that it would be more costly to redvelop than just building a new ground.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Good interview with a football debt expert named Stephen Schecter on SSN.

He's of the view that Henry is going to link up with Tom Werner also of NESV (he ofCasey-Werner) to aggressively market the club globally.

Also thinks that Henry will seriously consider groundshare possibilities.
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Yep just watched that too mate.

Broughton sounded as if it was a done deal and that H&G had no other option but to go give way on this.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton has spoken exclusively to Sky Sports News about the proposed sale of the club.

Broughton has confirmed that the agreed deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV), the parent company of the Boston Red Sox baseball club, is worth around £300million.

He also says the prospective new owners are considering re-developing Anfield, rather than moving to a new stadium.

Oh wow. What a fucking surprise.

Hahahahahaha

*cries*
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that's what i've wanted all along, it'd be a dream come true for me. i'm not sure why people think a new stadium has a monopoly on extra seats and corporate facilities, which could be part of an expansion of the old, cherished, ground.
 
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Just heard Broughton on 5live. Haven't had a chance to read the full article posted above though. He says he has the casting vote on the sale. Those were the conditions written into his contract when he decided to take the job. He wouldn't have taken it if the yanks had a chance to interfere in the sale. He had a job to do and wanted to be able to do it.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Good interview with a football debt expert named Stephen Schecter on SSN.

He's of the view that Henry is going to link up with Tom Werner also of NESV (he ofCasey-Werner) to aggressively market the club globally.

Also thinks that Henry will seriously consider groundshare possibilities.

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Yep just watched that too mate.

Broughton sounded as if it was a done deal and that H&G had no other option but to go give way on this.
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Well thats one way to get the locals on your side......
 
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The redevelopement of Anfield would cost even more than building a new stadium. [/quote]

You don't know that.

Plus it sounds very unlikely. I'd love it if they could redevelop Anfield to accommodate 60k fans.
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When they where orignally talking about building the new ground, moores and parry checked how viable it would be to redevlop anfield and they found that it would be more costly to redvelop than just building a new ground.


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That was what 6-7years ago? Things could have changed a fair bit since them, in terms of construction innovation (I dunno) but maybe some moves have been made in terms of acquiring the land surrounding Anfield? I don't know obviously, but I'm certainly happy for the issue to be revisited to see if there is a way around it.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton has spoken exclusively to Sky Sports News about the proposed sale of the club.

Broughton has confirmed that the agreed deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV), the parent company of the Boston Red Sox baseball club, is worth around £300million.

He also says the prospective new owners are considering re-developing Anfield, rather than moving to a new stadium.

Oh wow. What a fucking surprise.

Hahahahahaha

*cries*
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that's what i've wanted all along, it'd be a dream come true for me. i'm not sure why people think a new stadium has a monopoly on extra seats and corporate facilities, which could be part of an expansion of the old, cherished, ground.
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*2
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41783.msg1189965#msg1189965 date=1286364957]
Good interview with a football debt expert named Stephen Schecter on SSN.

He's of the view that Henry is going to link up with Tom Werner also of NESV (he ofCasey-Werner) to aggressively market the club globally.

Also thinks that Henry will seriously consider groundshare possibilities.
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Nothing will market the club more aggressively than success on the field. There are so many more questions than answers right now and I think Brendan's scepticism is justified. We went from two bidders to a successful bidder overnight, and the whole thing just seems rushed through and smacks of desperation.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

When they where orignally talking about building the new ground, moores and parry checked how viable it would be to redevlop anfield and they found that it would be more costly to redvelop than just building a new ground.

Yeah, I can just imagine the due diligence and world-class expertise they ploughed into that research.

Parry and Dave sitting down with a pack of cards, some toilet roll tubes, a green crayon, cellotape and an abacus.

Ten minutes later

"Nope, can't be done!"
 
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