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Players who have played for Liverpool over time, you deemed underrated.. i.e Henderson.. only just now getting the plaudits he deserves

[bcolor=#fdfbf8]Underrated - players that contribution are often dismissed or quietly go about there business whilst working in the limelight of others, that tend to get the plaudits[/bcolor]​


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Finnan----Henchoz--Wright--Aurellio
Henderson---Lucas---Whelan
Benayoun---Crouch--Maxi
 
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I liked Ruddock, for some strange reason

I also think David Burrows was an excellent but underrated, left back

Many on here would argue with you that Whelan wasn't underrated, but I agree that he was often the "Lucas" of the 80s, in terms of sections of fans not appreciating him. Whelan benefited from the lack of internet back then, as, if the conversations in pubs or on the letters page of the pink were transcribed to a current day fan forum, you would be hard pressed to tell Ronnie from Lucas

.. and, before everyone piles on, I am not comparing Lucas & Whelan as players.
 
tombrown said:
I liked Ruddock, for some strange reason
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He did have some good moments. He was outstanding against PSG in 1997 for example. We needed to score 3 goals in that match and played much more attacking than usual, his performance allowed us to push extra men forward.

Unprofessional twat though...
 
Ruddock could play when he could be bothered. He started out as a midfield player and on his day his distribution was excellent.
 
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Players who have played for Liverpool over time, you deemed underrated.. i.e Henderson.. only just now getting the plaudits he deserves


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Finnan----Henchoz--Wright--Aurellio
Henderson---Lucas---Whelan
Benayoun---Crouch--Maxi
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Oh, this is gonna be fun.

For starters: who the actual FUCK ever underrated Steve Finnan? Apart from Benitez, very briefly maybe. Ronnie is a very good shout, I can talk about him a lot.
Wright was a good player, as was Henchoz. Never liked Aurelio much, as any defender who can't tackle or head a ball isn't much of a defender.

And the front three are personally interesting, as I hated all of them.

Lucas.....fucking hell. No.

Great thread
 
I mean, everyone on here has rated an unpopular/shit player at some stage, but i couldn't fill an XI out of them

Does underrated just mean shit or bang average though? IF a player was good/brilliant, they would be remembered fondly, with minimal discussion.

To throw a few names in the hat though

Riera: Unspectacular player, but had a bit of a showboat on occasion and actually brought balance to the team by us actually playing a left winger....at left wing.

Aurelio: Because fuck you all. If he wasn't made of glass he would have left us sooner for a better team. He was a less good, less quick, less scouse, left footed trent

Wijnaldum: I had a problem with the shithouse ghost when our midfield was disjointed and a bit shit. Now it's good I see he is effectvely not a ghost, as much as a haunted mirror. He plays exactly as well/poorly as the team around him does when in midfield. The barca game I reckon happened because everyone was fired up. IF we were a bit shit when he came on, he would have done nothing.

Lucas doesn't deserve to be on this page. If we averaged out all the "lucas is great" and "lucas is shite" fans, it would land on his actual level... completely meh and a non-entity. It's telling his best thing he did in a red shirt was make a meme....and even then he wasn't wearing the shirt
 
Underrated, players that contribution are often dismissed or quietly go about there business whilst working in the limelight of others, that tend to get the plaudits

Lucas definitely in that category..

The guy often stepped upto the task when needed, often in his later years being played out of position, at one point in his career was pivotal to our midfield.. Till he got an injury..

Milner was certainly an upgrade though and offered much more, particularly in versatility and going forward

Henchoz was brilliant alongside Hyppia, those two shored up a leaky defense, Whilst Hyppia rightly got all the plaudits, Henchoz didn't, bit like Matip last season alongside Van Dyke..

Benayoun was often in and out the side under Benitez, he had these magical feet.. when on his game, was a fabulous player to watch..

Henderson, well not much more needs to be said that hasn't really already been said..

Aurelio, injury prone yes, but was one of the most technically gifted players we had in that Benitez side.. In the side that pushed for the title in 2009 he was brilliant..

Finnan, never really got the plaudits he deserved outside the club... Most just saw him as a steady RB.. nothing special

Crouch, never really a striker you would see at a Top Top club, and got off to a slow goalscoring start, but boy when he got going for such a lanky streak of piss, he had some great feet.. Scored some crackers.. gets in ahead of Heskey for me.. who's partnership was great with Owen under the houllier reign, so great it was, became key to us winning the treble and rightly became the first choice striking pair for England..

Sadly he was a one season wonder and form just disappeared along with the goals.. For such a well built player he went down far too easily
 
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In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Lucas' attitude was always spot on and he deserves credit for that, but he got the number of games he got purely and simply because there was so much other dross in our squad in addition to him.
 
Probably belongs in "the biggest disappointment" thread as much as this one but....................Vlad Smicer.

I was so excited when we signed him because I'd seen him many time for Czech Republic (I bet on them regularly back then and they won me loads). I still think he was an excellent player and, when fit, his awareness and ability on the ball seemed to give us a more cohesive look and we played at a higher-tempo.

The problem was his fitness, he rarely played more than 10 games fr us without succumbing to another injury, in 6 seasons he only played 120 games for us.

For me he will always be a legend because he scored THAT goal in Istanbul and then nailed the vital 4th penalty for us (they were all vital but given that Riise had missed our previous one and Kaka followed up by scoring his it meant that had Smicer missed we had thrown away our 2 penalty cushion).

Vlad only average one goal every 10 games for us but I think a true reflection of his ability (not that he was an out-and-out striker) was his goal every 3 games for Czech Republic.

He played 80 times in that excellent Czech team of the 90's (Nedved, Berger, Poborsky, Kadlec, Rada etc) and scored 27 goals.


Other underrated players that spring to mind, Peter Cormack, Henchoz, Ray Kennedy and KEVIN KEEGAN.

I know I've mentioned it before but I still think (even though he is recognised as a great) Keegan's pivotal role in our glory years has never quite got the acclaim it deserved because he was replaced by our greatest ever player. For me he was the catalyst, the missing link that turned us from being one of the best teams of the time into the dominant force in the English game for nearly 20 years.
 
Westerveld (he was a good goalie)

Finnan Henchoz Matip (until last year, people thought he was shit) Riise (we thought he wasn't good until it took us 15 years to replace him)

Hendo (until the last few months) Whelan Redknapp Riera (very very good player).

Salah (me included here - I don't realize how fucking great he is) Rocket Ronny (was so important in our last title win)
 
I don't think JAR was sh!t but there's been a sod of a lot of rewriting of history about him, partly because it did indeed prove difficult to replace him. He was great going forward and could tackle well when he was in the right place to do so, but his defensive positioning was frequently awful and opposition teams regularly targeted his wing for their attacks. If we hadn't had someone as outstanding as Sami playing at left-sided CB, we'd have had far more of a problem IMO.
 
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I don't think JAR was sh!t but there's been a sod of a lot of rewriting of history about him, partly because it did indeed prove difficult to replace him. He was great going forward and could tackle well when he was in the right place to do so, but his defensive positioning was frequently awful and opposition teams regularly targeted his wing for their attacks. If we hadn't had someone as outstanding as Sami playing at left-sided CB, we'd have had far more of a problem IMO.
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I'm as big a Sami fan as any...but under Rafa, many a times, Riise had provided support to the CB exceptionally well as well when playing physical or extremely quick players by sacrificing the attacking game. This was the reason our defense was so good against some the best wide forwards at the time and physically imposing players like Drogba.
 
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Westerveld
Johnson Henchoz Skrtel Aurelio
Benayoun Sissoko Wijnaldum Maxi
Crouch Bellamy

Always kinda liked Jonjo Shelvey too. He sure did a lot of stupid shit but was never boring to watch
 
He had his headless chicken side, but "sh!t" is way OTT. On the few occasions he and Heskey played together they made a better combo than Owen and Heskey, playing well off one another instead of Heskey having to be just a hod-carrier. Baros did his bit in Istanbul too: he never let the opposition defence settle, his was the pass which played Stevie G through for the penalty and, last but defo not least, he stood his ground when Nesta tried to shoulder his way past him to get into the area and clear the ball after Dida saved the penalty in normal time. Those few seconds may well have enabled Alonso to get to the ball first, and the rest is history.
 
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