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Liverpool v Palace - Pre Match Thread

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Two 8-0 isn't too much to ask for is it?


For GD to be significant the minimum difference, accounting for the narrowest win in their GIH, would be 9.

To outscore them by 9 goals in 2 games is nigh on impossible even if we have two absolute beanfeasts.... for any chance we would need 2 of our biggest Victorys of all time and hope that city are relatively lazy with their own goalscoring.

Ironically I can well imagine us getting a huge win against Newcastle but even then we will need truly monumental winning scorelines not to lose if it goes to GD. for example;

Palace 0 Liverpool 4
Liverpool 7 Barcodes 0


Even that blunderbuss of a finish would be beaten by;

City 1 Villa 0
City 2 Hammers 0

My research leads me to conclude that we need a 6 nil win at palace 😉 as a kind of minimum.... Cmon Everton PLEEEASE beat them...
 
The 1 plus point is Everton play before Arsenal this weekend. If it had been the otherway round and Arsenal won their game, I would've given up all hopes.
 
As I said, we need 4 halves with 3 goals each. If we can do that, the extra goal or two will come along. The Kop will pull in 2 goals or us, hopefully.

We scored 3 goals in 45 minutes in 4 consecutive games - in two of these games, we scored 2 goals in the other half (although that was with a game in-between). At the time we beat them away, Spurs had one of the best defensive records in the league if I remember correctly. I know it's not an exact apples-to-apples comparison with what we need to do for the last 2 games, but hopefully we can draw some inspiration and confidence from this stretch:

Dec 4 Liverpool 5-1 Norwich [ Suárez (15'), Suárez (29'), Suárez (35') ]
Dec 7 Liverpool 4-1 West Ham [ Sakho (47'), Suárez (81'), Suárez (84') ]
Dec 15 Tottenham 0-5 Liverpool [ Flanagan (75'), Suárez (84'), Sterling (89') ]
Dec 21 Liverpool 3-1 Cardiff [ Suárez (25'), Sterling (42'), Suárez (45') ]

Start fast, don't take the foot off the pedal if we score, and put players with proper pace, ambition and determination (i.e. not Moses) on the bench. Go with just one CB on the bench and an attacking FB (I'd contemplate Smith ahead of Cissokho) and bring Teixeira and/or Dunn (the alternative is Aspas - I'm sure he's now killed the last of whoever were left willing to see him given a chance this season).

I want to see us grab the ball from the net after we score, like every goal was the first or second comeback goal at Istanbul. No celebrations. Just score, grab the ball, try and score again.

Very difficult but not impossible.

Of course, if Everton nicks a point or three off City, then we go back to our normal setup and just win by three at Selhurst Park.
 
Zero chance we'll score enough for gd to matter. City if they do win all 3 will do it by more than 3 goals total.

We'd need 15/16 goals
 
Zero chance we'll score enough for gd to matter. City if they do win all 3 will do it by more than 3 goals total.

We'd need 15/16 goals
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Challenge accepted.
 
City win 2 out of 3 games. They haven't put winning runs together all season & in 2012 did their very best to throw it away too.

I'm confident they'll drop points, we have an extremely tricky tie against Palace away to get points in though, if city drop points against Everton then the Palace game is suddenly massive & that pressure will be felt keenly.
 
Everton will take points off City then we'll fucking draw with Palace or something.

If City lose, a draw could be enough to win the league if Chelsea doesnt score 7 goals more than us in their last two games and we beat Newcastle.

Liverpool 84, Chelsea 84 and City 83

Lets just win our two games and hope for the best...
 
No way will we put loads past palace. We'll win, but they'll do the same well organised bus parking shit as Chelsea because they saw it work and because it's all they know. 1-2
 
I've resigned myself to City winning their last 3 games.

It's easier that way.
I resigned myself to us fucking up at some point since March.

It's why I'm still a happy go lucky scamp
 
Who has to deal with a wedding filled with Chelsea fans on Saturday
 
Is it really impossible to spank a Pulis team? Was looking at the list of highest winning margins in Premier League history, and found this. Granted this was an away game for them and this was the only time his team let in seven, but the message is that if you try hard enough, get a little luck, and the opponents fall asleep, maybe it can still happen - Pulis or no Pulis.

This was the Chelsea team that went on to win the title and set the 103 goal Premier League era goals record, under Ancelotti. After a 2-0 win in their next game, they wrapped up the title with an 8-0 tonking of Wigan at home to pip Manc Utd by a point (who also won their last 3 games).

FWIW, Stoke finished 11th with 47 points.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8632297.stm
Published: 2010/04/25 16:59:13 GMT

Chelsea 7-0 Stoke
By Chris Bevan

Salomon Kalou's hat-trick helped a rampant Chelsea thrash Stoke and return to the top of the Premier League.

Kalou headed home Didier Drogba's cross before Stoke keeper Thomas Sorensen sustained a dislocated elbow as Kalou slid in to score his second goal. Lampard made it 3-0 from the spot after Robert Huth fouled Kalou, who then ran clear to complete his hat-trick.
Lampard hooked home a fifth and Daniel Sturridge's cool finish and a Florent Malouda tap-in completed the rout.

Chelsea move a point clear at the summit with two games to go and their performance was an emphatic response to last week's defeat by Tottenham that had given Manchester United renewed hope in the title race.

United had beaten Spurs on Saturday to overhaul the Blues at the top of the table but, before they faced Stoke, Carlo Ancelotti's side still knew that they would win the Premier League for the first time since 2006 if they won their three remaining matches.

If the Blues felt the pressure, they did not show it; pouring forward from the start.

And, while next weekend's visit to face Liverpool at Anfield is seen as Chelsea's most problematic fixture, the Potters are not known for being easily rolled over so the manner in which Ancelotti's side went about their task was even more impressive.

Ashley Cole, making his first appearance since suffering an ankle injury on 10 February, came close to breaking the deadlock early on, following up after Sorensen had pushed away Lampard's 25-yard effort but seeing the Dane keep out his snap-shot.

Sorensen produced an even better stop to save Drogba's near-post header from Paulo Ferreira, before Drogba fired wildly over after he had taken the ball around the Potters keeper.

It seemed just a matter of time until Chelsea made the breakthrough, and their opening goal duly arrived on 24 minutes.
Drogba brought down Malouda's cross-field pass with a brilliant touch and sent over an inviting cross from the right for Kalou to stoop and head home from close range.

A second goal quickly followed but there was controversy over the way Kalou followed up Lampard's first-time shot to put the ball in the net, with Sorensen taken to hospital after being caught by his wild challenge for the loose ball.

Stoke could also be unhappy about referee Steve Bennett's decision to let Lampard extend Chelsea's lead from the spot before the break, as Huth tangled with Kalou outside the box but the winger stayed on his feet until he got inside the area.

With the game all but won, there was an element of lethargy about the Blues at the start of the second half and it appeared they were happy to save their energy for that crunch clash with Liverpool on 2 May.

But the final 21 minutes saw a glut of goals which reflected the home side's complete dominance and could also prove crucial should the title come down to goal difference.

First Lampard released Kalou, who cut in from the right and fired home the rebound after Stoke's replacement keeper Asmir Begovic saved his first effort.

Malouda then somehow failed to convert Nicolas Anelka's cross despite being virtually on the goal-line and he was also denied by Begovic's instinctive save.

There was no stopping Chelsea, however, and Sam Hutchinson's superb cross from the right was brilliantly turned in by Lampard at the far post, for his 20th league goal of the season.

Before the end, Drogba set Sturridge free to round Begovic and slot home his first league goal since joining Chelsea.
And with the Stoke defence in pieces, Malouda met Joe Cole's low cross to score number seven from close range and round off a stunning victory.

Stoke boss Tony Pulis:
"Chelsea were very good but we turned up and one or two were complacent, we've got to be 100% to compete in this company and we weren't.

"They were far the better team, we were lucky to get nil. We had our pants pulled down and our backsides slapped.

"The team means 11 players having a go not five or six, we were poor we didn't make it very difficult for them."
 
if city beat everton then i think we'll struggle to get a win here . i'm not sure if we've picked ourselves up yet after chelsea. Those lads need to get down to melwood with their "we go again" banners .
 
You'll all fucking nuts ! I come back after a week in the rainforest and that Chelsea defeat has sent you all off the rails ! No fucking way are we going to score 10/12/15 goals in the last two matches. We'll win them both, maybe 0-2 and 3 or 4-0 but we need City to slip up somewhere (come on Everton, if you do it I promise I'll never call you the 'Blueshite' again) or the title is lost.
 
Everton have only lost 2 games at home this season. City only have a 50% winning record away from home. It will be a tough match that decides the destination of the title IMHO as I don't see either Liverpool or City slipping up in their other remaining games. Forget about GD - that's long done and dusted. The only bonus is Arsenal play after Everton so Martinez will have them up for it. An Everton win or a draw and the title could/should go to Anfield. If City win the title is theirs. Chelsea's horse is dead in the stalls.
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Roberto Martinez says Everton will give everything to beat Manchester City on Saturday - even if it means Liverpool winning the Premier League.
"We are a football team and football club who want to win every game we go into and we're looking at ourselves.

"They're precious points for us so we can't afford not to give everything to get every point we have left, but helping other teams is not the way we do our work."

Which team have won 10 of their last 15 home matches against City with just one defeat in that time? It is, of course, Everton.
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Yes. I'm clutching at straws here.
 
Oh guess who we have as the referee?

Monday 5 May 2014
20:00 Crystal Palace v Liverpool - Mark Clattenburg

Game on!

"Today there should have been a penalty, after the penalty not given for a foul on (Giorgio) Chiellini on the first leg," Conte said.

Conte also claimed Clattenburg had failed to control what he saw as Benfica's spoiling tactics.

"The referee allowed them to obstruct the play the whole game. Before the game he told us that he wouldn't stop play every time a player hit the floor, but that's what happened.

"We feel like we're not being taken seriously, and UEFA should show us more respect by sending a referee of the required standard."
 
I think Clattenburg, for the most part, did a fantastic job of controlling what was a very volatile game. Juve don't have too much to complain about, other than time added on at the end, when 6 minutes wasn't enough.

Edit: actually he let it run to about 7 and a half so actually he did well there too.

Juve looked like they's need another 90 to score.
 
All this talk of goal difference is madness. If they win their games their GD goes up in line with ours. Forget goal difference for fuck's sake. You'll send yourselves round the bend. We need them to draw one of their last three games. That's all.
 
3 points and goals galore needed. Attacking team to the fore. Thank you BR........... Go get 'em!
 
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