I can't argue with that it's nearly on par with suarez's tally v Norwich
Ludogorets (A) - Wednesday 26th November
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LOL. Well he's no Downing lover that's for sure. But he is a Lallana lover, but hey everyone makes mistakes.
I don't think Ryan is piggy backing your views man. His thoughts are more than likely his own.
Modo in arguing with people who agree with him shocker
You're not some Oracle who knows football on a higher plane.
My criticism of Gerrard at DM has been long standing, so clearly I'm the Oracle
My main view was lucas wasnt/isn't good enough, but is an actual DM.
I've advocated Can get a run out in that position.
You're not some Oracle who knows football on a higher plane.
My criticism of Gerrard at DM has been long standing, so clearly I'm the Oracle
My main view was lucas wasnt/isn't good enough, but is an actual DM.
I've advocated Can get a run out in that position.
I think Can would be a more natural box to box player, similar to Yaya, than a true CDM.
However he was playing CB very well a few months back in one of the German international youth matches, so I'm not entirely sure.
I think he's versatile enough to play in a few positions, but he's at an age where he needs to play and play in a consistent position
DM is a long term issue for us.
Either we play him at DM, let him develop and push Gerrard up , or we allow him to play at cm as a long term Gerrard replacement, but drop Gerrard for lucas
Fucking hell, that's not Oracle worthy. There were about 20 of us saying that!
My issue with moving Gerrard up is that CM is going to be a more demanding role than CDM, and so on.
If Gerrard is alongside Hendo/Allen in the advanced role, it's going to go terribly as he simply isn't energetic enough.
It can't be much fucking worse than now can it though?
That's not really a compelling argument for keeping him in the first team.
I've got my Rodgers hat on and assuming he's a guaranteed starter
For me he's on the bench every week
I mean we aren't pressing anyways, so it may work out...
You've added a lot of legs to my post man. I said I'd use Gerrard sparingly. As in play him for 70mins (If that's all he can give) in a more advanced role. I don't see the point in bringing his wages into it. Bringing up the Chelsea game is a bit unnecessary also. It was a freak, one off game where we showed naivety as a whole in chasing the game. Gerrard took it upon himself to try long shots (against a team sitting back) to atone for his mistake/slip. I'd rather not revisit that game.
Honestly thought we were doing well in pressing Chelsea for a goal until Gerrard decided to go one man army and Aspas came on. The rest of the side was being patient and we created a few half chances.
I could see 70 minutes potentially, but we would be going away from the pressing game. That's more an issue on paper though, as we aren't doing much pressing anyways at the moment.
Wages are probably of least concern here though, I will concede that.
Is he really? I see what they did there. It's like a humourous play on his normal nickname. How clever.
It is a shit insult and I honestly had no idea anybody thought that about him. I've never heard it mentioned in London town. Maybe it's a northern thing.
Yaya also played at CB, in a CL final too if I remember right.
I heard it from some Londoners
That was against little boys who were half the size of him. There's no way he's a centre back.
Besides, playing anyone at centre back in the current system is merely setting them up for a fall. Our problems are systemic.
Huh! A quick google of 'Stevie Me' and it appears in several articles. It seems you are quite correct in that in some quarters he is labelled as selfish and a bit narcissistic. That was honestly news to me. I can kind of see it though. There was an incident last year involving a Sturridge goal that he set up with a beautiful pass but his celebration always stuck me as odd. Like he was saying 'Look at how ace that pass was' instead of saying 'Sturridge! Was an ace finish'...
I can't remember. He ran up to Sturridge, stopped and held his arms wide and waited for Sturridge to hug him. As if saying 'Yeah that's right. You scored that goal because of me'... I'm probably over analysing the body language but at the time I honestly remember thinking that was a bit odd. His pass was very good admittedly.
Ok found it. It's the one Vs Fulham. This clip doesn't really do the weirdness justice. Here you go though.
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