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So what do we think will happen with this chap?

I thought in a couple of his appearances last season he looked very assured on the ball and he even got an assist towards the end of the season.

If we continue with one up front and 2 AMs then I think we will have room for him in the squad. I havent seen anything of him from his loan spell - is he benefitting from the game time?
 
Texeira is a much better shout for one of the midfield options next year, in my opinion. Very gifted player and he's scoring and assisting regularly for a struggling team.
 
Whenever I've heard his name mentioned by people like James Pearce and Tony Barrett the impression is he's not rated and will move on in the summer.

He's not a starter for Malaga. He and Aspas were really bizarrely shit signings.
 
peterhague said:
Whenever I've heard his name mentioned by people like James Pearce and Tony Barrett the impression is he's not rated and will move on in the summer.

He's not a starter for Malaga. He and Aspas were really bizarrely shit signings.
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Yep, their signings probably cost us the league last year.
 
And yet, he's probably right. That £15m spent on one even reasonably useful player probably would've made the difference. It was basically goal difference that cost us.

Fairly galling when you think about it.
 
Best Believe It said:
Yeah, that or the £500 million Man City have spent building their squad.
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So we need to spend that kind of money or we never win the league again?

We've spent enough to win a league title or two these last 20 odd years. Not enough probably to be winning it or even challenging every season but yeah definitely enough to have won it at least once.
 
peterhague said:
And yet, he's probably right. That £15m spent on one even reasonably useful player probably would've made the difference. It was basically goal difference that cost us.

Fairly galling when you think about it.
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Not really. Any guarantees that £15 million player would have fit in any better than Aspas or Alberto did, contributed any more, stayed fit, trained well?

The idea that we 'lost' the league is bullshit as well - to win it that season would have required us to put together a winning streak of ridiculous proportions. We didn't enter the run in with a 10 point lead that we then threw away. We were clinging on to a small chance of finishing first and ultimately Man City's more expensive and experienced squad proved to be better. As they fucking ought to be, really, given the amount of money they've spent.
 
Tinto said:
So we need to spend that kind of money or we never win the league again?

We've spent enough to win a league title or two these last 20 odd years. Not enough probably to be winning it or even challenging every season but yeah definitely enough to have won it at least once.
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Really, have we? Have we assembled a more expensive squad than any other club over the last 20 years? Because that's the only way you can reasonably measure whether we've spent 'enough'. We've had a run of managers who have spent poorly, granted, but we've never outspent everyone else in the league the way Man City, Chelsea and, before them, Man Utd did.

I agree that we haven't performed as well as we should have on occasions given the money we have spent, but unless you can outspend everyone else, as far as I'm concerned you'll never have 'spent enough' to win the league. Because if you've spent enough, then what about the teams who have spent more than you?
 
Spurs bought Chadli for 8m and eriksen for 11m

Either of those players would have been a damn sight more useful than Aspas and Alberto
 
Fabio said:
Spurs bought Chadli for 8m and eriksen for 11m

Either of those players would have been a damn sight more useful than Aspas and Alberto
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Quite possibly, but there's no guarantee. Spurs aren't anywhere near as big a club as us. There is added pressure playing for Liverpool (ref: Dejan Lovren).

You may well be right but I take issue with viewing things as simplistically as that.
 
Best Believe It said:
Not really. Any guarantees that £15 million player would have fit in any better than Aspas or Alberto did, contributed any more, stayed fit, trained well?

The idea that we 'lost' the league is bullshit as well - to win it that season would have required us to put together a winning streak of ridiculous proportions. We didn't enter the run in with a 10 point lead that we then threw away. We were clinging on to a small chance of finishing first and ultimately Man City's more expensive and experienced squad proved to be better. As they fucking ought to be, really, given the amount of money they've spent.
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It's not really that controversial a point, really. We almost won the league - basically the GD after the Chelsea game did for us. It's not exactly a stretch to say that the £15m spent the previous summer that yielded 2 complete duds might have been employed to gain a single extra point over 38 games.

Thinking that doesn't imply any comment on the nature or merit of our challenge.
 
peterhague said:
It's not really that controversial a point, really. We almost won the league - basically the GD after the Chelsea game did for us. It's not exactly a stretch to say that the £15m spent the previous summer that yielded 2 complete duds might have been employed to gain a single extra point over 38 games.

Thinking that doesn't imply any comment on the nature or merit of our challenge.
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I think it was the term 'cost us' that annoyed me. I remember Modo blaming me personally for us not winning the league because I suggested Agger wasn't good enough for us.

We haven't spent well historically for quite a while, and that point is well worth raising, but it still wouldn't have mitigated the vast resources Man City had at their disposal.
 
Every team has duds. The best you can say is that our chance of winning were reduced as result of their signings.
 
Best Believe It said:
Quite possibly, but there's no guarantee. Spurs aren't anywhere near as big a club as us. There is added pressure playing for Liverpool (ref: Dejan Lovren).

You may well be right but I take issue with viewing things as simplistically as that.
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True there's no guarantee, but I'd imagine that eriksen or Chadli would have given us a damn sight more than Aspas and his corner taking abilities

Obviously it's all hypothetical, and yes we were only in the position we were because of a ludicrous run... But the issue is... We WERE in that position. With hindsight to waste that 15m was galling
 
I hate to say I told you so and all, but let's face it I did.

It was easy to see he was too slow and too weak for the Premiership and he had zero in terms of pedigree.

None of the teams who've had him ever trusted him with much first team football
 
Best Believe It said:
I think it was the term 'cost us' that annoyed me. I remember Modo blaming me personally for us not winning the league because I suggested Agger wasn't good enough for us.

We haven't spent well historically for quite a while, and that point is well worth raising, but it still wouldn't have mitigated the vast resources Man City had at their disposal.
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I did say "probably cost us". 🙂

For me, it's about making the most of every resource available. We didn't do that in that Summer. Looking back on it now I would say the work we did in the Summer transfer window was the main failing of last season.
 
peterhague said:
And yet, he's probably right. That £15m spent on one even reasonably useful player probably would've made the difference. It was basically goal difference that cost us.

Fairly galling when you think about it.
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We scored squillions of goals.
What cost us the league was Henderson's red and our stupidity in chasing more goals at Palace when three up and Citeh's bottomless oily pockets.
 
Mignolet's flap against Negredo... if he saves that the game is 1-1, City -2 points and Liverpool +1 point.

The offside in that game against Raheem. That was a pain in the ass.

What if's are what kill us as Footy fans though!
 
Silver Sean said:
We scored squillions of goals.
What cost us the league was Henderson's red and our stupidity in chasing more goals at Palace when three up and Citeh's bottomless oily pockets.
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You misunderstood. I wasn't saying we missed out on GD and therefore needed to score more goals, but that if we'd just secured a single more point the GD would have been irrelevant.
 
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