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Messi's next club? And the heap of shit Barca are in!

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Messi doesn’t work hard enough to join a team like us or City. Maybe Juve sell Ronaldo and get Messi.

I know it's not feasible for so many reasons, but I would imagine quite a few fans would pay anything to see Ronaldo playing with Messi.
 
Manchester City believe they are in pole position to sign Lionel Messi and reunite him with his former manager Pep Guardiola if the 33-year-old Argentina playmaker leaves Barcelona. (Sunday Mirror)
 
Manchester City believe they are in pole position to sign Lionel Messi and reunite him with his former manager Pep Guardiola if the 33-year-old Argentina playmaker leaves Barcelona. (Sunday Mirror)
We know this must be speculative bollocks, but even were it not, I can't see how Messi fits in that team without disrupting Guardiola's philosophy where there are no passengers in defence.
 
I can't see it. Just don't see where he's gonna go.

I hope to fuck he doesn't go to City. He's probably my favourite non-LFC player ever, but if he goes there I'd have to start hating him and he will have proven himself a morally bankrupt mercenary.
 
ITKs suggest Inter Milan as a possible destination. Seems like they have money + rivalry with Ronaldo.
 
ITKs suggest Inter Milan as a possible destination. Seems like they have money + rivalry with Ronaldo.
Only Juve is an attractive proposition in that league. No way is he going to Intermilan unless they give him a 10% stake in the club
 
Messi will go back to Argentina. He'll have seen how Raul, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol etc. faded into obscurity after leaving Spain at that age.

He might well go back to Argentina because hes rich as fuck and hes won everything with Barca, but hes miles better than any of the above players when they left Spain. Hes still a top 5 player in the world.
 
IMO it's still City or PSG ... the only two capable of paying his salary plus of course reuniting with Neymar would keep both happy.
 
Only Juve is an attractive proposition in that league. No way is he going to Intermilan unless they give him a 10% stake in the club

I think the most logical move for him would be to do another season at Barca as a farewell and then go to the MLS where he takes 25% (or more) ownership of a club in lieu of wages for a couple of seasons. Even now he would draw a phenomenal amount of media interest to the MLS.
 
IMO it's still City or PSG ... the only two capable of paying his salary plus of course reuniting with Neymar would keep both happy.
PSG is a good shout, they could sell Mbappe (not to us), for close to the Neymar fee, and get Messi on a Free on similar wages.

I can't see City getting him, he's not guaranteed to 'win' the league, and is in his twilight years. The physicality of the league I still think won't suit his style of play.

Hasn't he always said he wants to go back to his boyhood club to finish out his career?
 
IMO it's still City or PSG ... the only two capable of paying his salary plus of course reuniting with Neymar would keep both happy.
For most big clubs his merch and new sponsorship would pay for his salary, wouldn't it? When Juve signed Ronaldo, they sold over 500k juve kits in 24hours www.footyheadlines.com/2018/07/juventus-has-sold-more-than-500000-ronaldo-kits-first-24-hours.html
What's the pull at Inter? It has none of the glory, history oroor romance of Juve or Milan.
At 33 would you want to go to the football equivalent of God's graveyard (MLS)?
 
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I think the most logical move for him would be to do another season at Barca as a farewell and then go to the MLS where he takes 25% (or more) ownership of a club in lieu of wages for a couple of seasons. Even now he would draw a phenomenal amount of media interest to the MLS.

The Cincinnati Tax Dodgers has a ring to it.
 
Messi would be insane for City, even at his age. You guys are nuts.
If he spares even a moment to consider playing for City, this memory will quickly change his mind

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Makes sense - whoever gets appointed now will be out of a job come the Barca Presidential elections at the end of the season - unless they win the League & Champions League.
 
For most big clubs his merch and new sponsorship would pay for his salary, wouldn't it? When Juve signed Ronaldo, they sold over 500k juve kits in 24hours www.footyheadlines.com/2018/07/juventus-has-sold-more-than-500000-ronaldo-kits-first-24-hours.html
What's the pull at Inter? It has none of the glory, history oroor romance of Juve or Milan.
At 33 would you want to go to the football equivalent of God's graveyard (MLS)?

How much do you think Juventus made on those jerseys ?
 
How much do you think Juventus made on those jerseys ?
Do you know what the arrangement is, if the club sells the shirts through its (own) online store or retail outlet? I would guess it would be very different from that of a 3rd party like JD Sports.
 
For most big clubs his merch and new sponsorship would pay for his salary, wouldn't it? When Juve signed Ronaldo, they sold over 500k juve kits in 24hours www.footyheadlines.com/2018/07/juventus-has-sold-more-than-500000-ronaldo-kits-first-24-hours.html
What's the pull at Inter? It has none of the glory, history oroor romance of Juve or Milan.
At 33 would you want to go to the football equivalent of God's graveyard (MLS)?


This idea of shirt sales of a player covering the cost of the transfer is one of these transfer forum myths which has been disproven time and time again. There are multiple articles written about it.
 
This idea of shirt sales of a player covering the cost of the transfer is one of these transfer forum myths which has been disproven time and time again. There are multiple articles written about it.

Indeed. The vast majority of money from the shirt sales goes to the company that has the licensing deal (so, Nike for example). The club gets a percentage, so might make a bit more than usual if they sign a star player, but it probably wouldn't be anywhere near enough to pay for the transfer fee/signing on fee and wages of that star player.

The only way that I guess it could work is if the player is so huge that he alone would be responsible for a hell of a lot of people buying the club's shirts when they would definitely not have done so regardless (with a different name or no name on the back) AND the signing of the star player came at exactly the same time as the club signed a new licensing deal.
 
Indeed. The vast majority of money from the shirt sales goes to the company that has the licensing deal (so, Nike for example). The club gets a percentage, so might make a bit more than usual if they sign a star player, but it probably wouldn't be anywhere near enough to pay for the transfer fee/signing on fee and wages of that star player.

The only way that I guess it could work is if the player is so huge that he alone would be responsible for a hell of a lot of people buying the club's shirts when they would definitely not have done so regardless (with a different name or no name on the back) AND the signing of the star player came at exactly the same time as the club signed a new licensing deal.

Agreed. Some more information in this article:

So can a club's shirt sales pay off a transfer fee on their own?
Short answer: No. Not even close.

For the long answer we asked Jake Cohen, a sports lawyer who has worked on a number of high-profile transactions in football, to clear up one of the biggest misconceptions in the modern game.

"It is often claimed that a club can recoup a marquee player’s transfer fee through shirt sales. However, in reality, this couldn’t be further from the truth.

"Kit deals are not traditional sponsorship deals – they are licensing deals, which enable the kit manufacturers to use the club’s brand to sell branded apparel. Clubs will traditionally receive an annual fee – for example, Manchester United receives £75 million per year from Adidas, Chelsea receives an initial £60 million per year from Nike, and Arsenal receives £30 million per year from Puma – and then 10-15% of the revenue the kit manufacturer generates from shirt sales.

"Furthermore, signing a star player doesn’t lead to as many new kits being sold as one might think. While there will usually be an uptick in shirts sold in the market where the player came from, it is more often the case that those who were already planning on purchasing a shirt will choose to get the new player’s name on the back, rather than an existing player.

For more see here: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...fee-net-worth-contract-how-long-a8456191.html
 
Do you know what the arrangement is, if the club sells the shirts through its (own) online store or retail outlet? I would guess it would be very different from that of a 3rd party like JD Sports.

Ronaldo makes 31m a year. The shirts total up to about 50m in revenue, so even if there was no cost of buying them, staff all worked for free, there were no cost of delivery / storage etc it doesn't cover his salary.

If they made 5m profit off of that they did well.

I've no doubt Ronaldo's agents factor the merch bump into salary and image rights demands anyway.
 
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