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I think the lad deserves a huge amount of credit for his form. Since he's come back into the team, he's been outstanding. I don't think he did alot wrong before he was dropped for Karius, but the addition of better competition seems to have tested his resolve and he's come back a better player for it.

He's been much more decisive, commanding and his distribution has improved 100%. I think part of this seems to stem from him being able to just put his foot through the ball more when the situation calls for it, instead of desperately trying to play his way out of trouble with his back four. Against United he was allowed to go long alot more, and relieved the pressure on us as a team.

His shot stopping has always been his best asset, give or take the occasional softly conceded goal, but against United he was quick off his line, which he wasn't always doing previously, now he's playing the sweeper role we never thought he had in him.

Hopefully he keeps this form up.
 
Agree with all of that. I'd enter a slight caveat that he's improved his form before and didn't sustain it then, so that'll need to change, but he deserves the jersey and long may that continue.
 
Yes. He shouldn't have been dropped in the first place as far as I'm concerned. The thing now with Karius is: the next time he's picked, he needs to stay in or be sold on. You can't do the old Souness-style pick and mix with keepers, it wrecks them. At least now Mignolet knows he's in a competition for his place, and credit to him that he's responding.
 
Hurray, now we have someone to blame when Ming inevitably drops a clanger in the next game!

Jokes aside, you're right of course – somehow Ming seems much less nervous now and faster off his line too. He seems to have transferred most of his nervous jitters to Karius and now very much looks the part of a senior GK at the club.
 
gkmacca said:
Yes. He shouldn't have been dropped in the first place as far as I'm concerned. The thing now with Karius is: the next time he's picked, he needs to stay in or be sold on. You can't do the old Souness-style pick and mix with keepers, it wrecks them. At least now Mignolet knows he's in a competition for his place, and credit to him that he's responding.
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This didn't wreck Ter Stegen, who is now the #1 at Barca or Cech at Chelsea and now Arsenal (where he is rotated with Ospina). Borussia Dortmund rotate Burki and Weidenfeller too. I don't think this rule is true any more.
 
Hes on a good run of form but lets make no mistake, he's still a clanger of a goalkeeper.
 
Karius didnt look like he had any nervous jitters when he played in both the FA and league cup games.
The competition between them seem to improve both. Long may it continue.

Mignolet is the number 1 now. Which is well deserved.
But Karius is a very talented keeper and I can see him overtaking him and the first spot.
 
Rurik: I agree with macca. Ter Stegen took his time coming through at Barça and Cech hasn't actually been rotated at either of those clubs (playing the other keeper mostly in Cup games doesn't really count in my book). Swapping around can't help much with back four cohesion either.
 
Judge Jules said:
Rurik: I agree with macca. Ter Stegen took his time coming through at Barça and Cech hasn't actually been rotated at either of those clubs (playing the other keeper mostly in Cup games doesn't really count in my book). Swapping around can't help much with back four cohesion either.
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I thought Macca meant this kind of rotation: "next time he's picked" (doesn't say specifically in the league). If not, my bad. Of course you don't want to rotate GKs in the league games – don't think Klopp would contemplate it.
 
Karius did look better in the two cup games, it has to be said. I think that's maybe a sign that he's a work in progress, and the best way to see how good he can be will be to use him sparingly for now, to take the pressure off him. Allow him to adjust to the league, to watch and learn.
 
He certainly does deserve credit, as he's done really well recently, but I'm sure we've seen the same bounce in form form him before, only for him to then revert to type. If he can hold this form until the end of the season, I'll be impressed.
 
Karius were impressive against Soton. High quality saves, and commanding the area. COuldn't done more for us on the day. The main worry in that game was the number of Clear cut chances he had to deal With. Normally we don't allow many of those.
 
This time last year Ming was dropped & then reinstated & was in great form. Then he went to Wembley ....
 
rurikbird said:
This didn't wreck Ter Stegen, who is now the #1 at Barca or Cech at Chelsea and now Arsenal (where he is rotated with Ospina). Borussia Dortmund rotate Burki and Weidenfeller too. I don't think this rule is true any more.
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I don't understand 'the rule' isn't 'true anymore'. Only an idiot would assume it WAS a rule rather than a tendency that history shows is extremely likely rather than unlikely, and to suggest that it's suddenly stopped being likely suggests an assumption of psychological evolution on behalf of young keepers that merits serious academic research, because it would be fantastic. It's no good citing someone like Cech, for god's sake, he's a proven player who is at the stage where he can handle that easily. Rotating players AFTER they've settled, proven themselves and established a sound rapport with an equally settled back four is another matter, although I doubt many see it as ideal. It remains the case that it's much more likely than not to wreck a young player who is trying to establish himself in a big team, and hopefully Klopp appreciates this rather than plans to test the hypothesis through a series of rash gambles.
 
He's been very impressive since his return but he has a long way to go to win me over. If he has a mare anytime soon I won't be surprised and that's what he has to change. The opinion that a clanger is just around the corner.
He looks more commanding, more confident and an improved shot stopper, long may it continue.
I was surprised the see a stat that we are very high on the table of long balls this season
 
Mignolet is playing very well, it's only fair to acknowledge that.

I will need to see a sustained period of this form to trust him, though, given what a hopeless twat he has been on many, many occasions.
 
He's looked far more positive and assertive of late and has more than justified his reinstatement but one swallow does not make a summer. As has been pointed out we've been here before. Last time he was dropped for the hapless Bogdan he came back well - didn't his wife tell him how to do it?- I don't think we can say he didn't deserve to be dropped as he was flapping around like a twat and some goals were attributed to him, but the issue here is we are being wise after the event as we were not Expecting Karius to be even worse. I agree Karius has looked OK in the cup games and this competition for the keepers to prove they are not as shit as everyone thought will be a good thing
 
manwithnoname said:
Mignolet is playing very well, it's only fair to acknowledge that.

I will need to see a sustained period of this form to trust him, though, given what a hopeless twat he has been on many, many occasions.
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We are agreeing far too often lately, maybe you do need to take a break
 
Thing is though, we've seen this with Mignolet before. Also, regardless of that, his distribution is an issue. Had they scored from that stupid short throw in the last minutes this thread would look very different.

If Karius can replicate that form from the other night & that's a return to the form he was in playing in Germany, then he's definitely the better option.
 
I'd be getting him a decent shrink. He clearly can be a good keeper but loses confidence very quickly.

I know the dude who fixed Phil Taylor when his darts was all broken. Taylor credits him with making him world champ again. He drinks in my local. Should send him round to Ming's a few times a week.
 
Yeah, still doubts about him but he deserves praise nonetheless. Karius was also brilliant against Southampton and we've seen what he's capable of at his best. Whilst both keepers still have points to prove its fair to say our keeping situation is much more reassuring than it was before Christmas.
 
Woland said:
I'd be getting him a decent shrink. He clearly can be a good keeper but loses confidence very quickly.

I know the dude who fixed Phil Taylor when his darts was all broken. Taylor credits him with making him world champ again. He drinks in my local. Should send him round to Ming's a few times a week.
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Maybe, but not sure a massive increase in lager intake would work for a footballer
 
FoxForceFive said:
Thing is though, we've seen this with Mignolet before. Also, regardless of that, his distribution is an issue. Had they scored from that stupid short throw in the last minutes this thread would look very different.

If Karius can replicate that form from the other night & that's a return to the form he was in playing in Germany, then he's definitely the better option.
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My concern with Karius is how often his body shape often looks all wrong. He's all elbows and legs, and seems to become smaller rather than bigger in the goal. That also has an effect on his body shape when the ball is coming in high, if you paused the action just as the ball is going in, you think "what the fuck is he trying to do there?"

There's unorthodox, and there's just wrong.
 
Ming has looked pretty good since he came back, and definitely deserves credit. People are saying he should never have been dropped, but maybe dropping him could be the best thing that's happened to him. He knows he has to fight for his place. He knows Klopp isn't going to fuck about if he thinks he needs dropping.

Hopefully he can continue this good run.
 
Mingolet deserves a lot of credit for his performances of late. He's also seems quicker off his line to eliminate some potential attacks. He hasn't won back my complete trust though. I don't he'll ever be capable of that.
 
Fair play to the lad, he's looked good since back. And, as mentioned earlier, he probably didn't warrant dropping in the first place (this time anyway).
However, once the inevitable happens, I'm sure it will be a return to form and we'll all want the fucker euthanised.
 
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