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Mo Salah 2025/26 Season

I have plenty of sympathy for Mo, whether coping with Jota's loss or Mo's own fading battle with Father Time. I will always revere him as a legend of this club and one of its finest ever players.

It's also beyond debate that he is not, on current form, deserving of a guaranteed places in the starting eleven. He's not the only reason why we've struggled this season but he's one of the main ones.

He needs to be given a chance to play himself back into form but it may need to be from the bench. We can't afford to start each game with ten men just to assuage his ego or because he's been a world class player in previous seasons.
These are my exact thoughts too but these days it's way more fashionable to either cum in your own mouth when he plays like shit to fit the told-you-so agenda or just be a dreamy mcdnw
 
Great goal today despite the loss. People are acting like Salah’s to blame for us conceding three goals tonight. Our defence has been terrible for a while now. If it wasn’t, one or two goals would’ve been enough to win most games.
 
I just had a look. In his last 20 league games, he's scored 4 non penalty goals.

So we are getting a 1/5 forward who doesn't track back, and we are paying him as though he is one of the best in the world.

There are a number of players who don't look even remotely threatening or sharp, at any point, and we started with two of them today in Isak and Salah. They aren't fucking on it. I've got no idea how to play this team into form, but I know two players who should be fighting their way back into this team from the bench.
Yet he scored a goal that nobody else arguably could.

Plus in those 20 games he’s also grabbed assists and created heaps of chances. He’s definitely not finishing like last season atm but he’s not the reason we are unconvincing imo. It’s multifaceted.
 
Jota’s death affected the whole squad, no doubt. But I don’t see how it specifically impacted Salah more than others. Jota wasn’t even that close to him from what I've seen and read. The three players who were genuinely close to Jota were Robbo, Kelleher and Ali. Robbo and Kelleher even attended his wedding. If anyone should be particularly affected, it’s them. All three of them showed up in either his funeral or the wake. Salah didn't.
Using Jota’s death as an excuse for Salah’s form feels like a cop-out, especially considering his poor run started long before Jota passed away.
Apparently it was him who convinced Klopp to sign him.
 
I don't think the drop off we saw at the tail end of last season can simply be explained away by "nothing to play for". I might be wrong but I don't recall playing like shit and losing being a noticeable feature of many title winners. Either way, it shouldn't be accepted.

As for Salah, I think there are two sides to the situation right now.

On the one hand, we've got one of our all-time greats who contributed to massively to one of our best periods in a long time and for many younger folk, the best they've seen.

On the other, we've got a player that by all accounts we had to fight quite hard to keep (basically empty our wallet). At the moment, that is feeling like a very one sided transaction. You can argue that the game is the game and he's looking out for himself but then... if we're treating it as just business, that goes both ways.
Alan Hansen recalls a season where we were unbeaten and once we won the league didn’t win again for the rest of the season. It’s perfectly normal vs abnormal for teams to relax and lose their edge. Salah was devastated that we lost to PSG, he knew the Ballon Dor was gone then.

His merchandise and marketing value will never make it a one sided transaction regardless of his in field performance.
 
Yet he scored a goal that nobody else arguably could.

Plus in those 20 games he’s also grabbed assists and created heaps of chances. He’s definitely not finishing like last season atm but he’s not the reason we are unconvincing imo. It’s multifaceted.

That one goal today in no way justifies the past several games, where he has been absolutely off the pace. His shooting is beyond bad, his lack of awareness for passing is telling.

And then there’s the fact that he’s not creating for the team either. We just cannot carry a man anymore.
 
That was some goal yesterday but honestly it was a swing & hope as it often is with his right foot & it was one of the rare times it went in.
 
Yet he scored a goal that nobody else arguably could.

Plus in those 20 games he’s also grabbed assists and created heaps of chances. He’s definitely not finishing like last season atm but he’s not the reason we are unconvincing imo. It’s multifaceted.

We aren't having a problem scoring meaningless goals in the bomb everyone forward phase of the game.

We are having a problem being way way too easy to beat for like the first 70. Or even just looking consistently structurally sound. Salah does not contribute to the solidity of our team. Again, i don't want a 0-0 but I'd take it in these circumstances.
 
Sadio died for Mo's sins?

What a strange thing to say?

Sadio was pretty much done as a top tier player when he left us. What he has done since is testament to that.

Its not Salah's fault that Mane had a big drop off nor is it his fault for having a better longevity than Sadio.

I liked Keniget's balanced post.

Having an agenda and banging on this forever will only make people who can see both sides not engage meaningfully. The problem we have is multifaceted. Even under Klopp we had clusters of dreadful results.

We have just been seeing what making wholesale changes to the squad does. Have a bit of patience before asking for another 150 million dollar squad refresh and take the knife out on the players who are currently there.
 
Sadio died for Mo's sins?

What a strange thing to say?

Sadio was pretty much done as a top tier player when he left us. What he has done since is testament to that.

Its not Salah's fault that Mane had a big drop off nor is it his fault for having a better longevity than Sadio.

I liked Keniget's balanced post.

Having an agenda and banging on this forever will only make people who can see both sides not engage meaningfully. The problem we have is multifaceted. Even under Klopp we had clusters of dreadful results.

We have just been seeing what making wholesale changes to the squad does. Have a bit of patience before asking for another 150 million dollar squad refresh and take the knife out on the players who are currently there.

Sadio had to work harder and do the hard yards so that the system could justify Salah having freedom. He ended his career the same way that Diaz did, underrated and out of position.


That, and it was a joke.
 
Sadio had to work harder and do the hard yards so that the system could justify Salah having freedom. He ended his career the same way that Diaz did, underrated and out of position.


That, and it was a joke.
Couldn't have said it any better. Thanks for the assist.
 
A bit selective again to forget the 6 months before that then.
This is the problem, the obession on a single player is distracting from fixing underlying issues. I.e. Slot's preference but also the fans on here to focus on a single player to fix a broken system. Same concerns were raised about this system and Team after March last year but few on here weref focussed on selective facts rather than concerning drop off performance and results.
There are only two player threads which are consistently bumped and this has the most venom but again, masks the actual issue. His partner on other side was just as horrible as well as few other players who don't get the same venom game after game aswell eulogising about Mane whom was sold half a decade ago as if Salah Shot him dead, pointless...
Normally dred Mo disappearing off to Afcon but this time it can't come soon enough to help address the actual issue one way or another...
 
You must’ve missed the dozens of times I’ve referred to Gakpo as a spastic.
Still disproportional 🙂 and wasn't referring to you specifically.
I think if I had a go won't be able to know where to stop with some of the current lot and I know have had a go previously so not going to be hyporcritical.
 
We have talked at length about gakpo. You are missing the essential point though . Assume Gakpo and Salah both have a bad game, and they are both equally as unproductive in an attacking sense. It's mo who is hurting us more in that scenario, because he's useless off the ball.
 
I don't think Gakpo is particularly good off the ball either. He doesn't let his head drop though, I will say that.
 
6 months ago we had half the forums declaring their allegiance of support for Gakpo and how he was the far superior player to Diaz in just about every measure, soooooo....what the fuck happened there?
 
6 months ago we had half the forums declaring their allegiance of support for Gakpo and how he was the far superior player to Diaz in just about every measure, soooooo....what the fuck happened there?

I wasn't one of them, but I don't really remember that being the general consensus either.
 
Still disproportional 🙂 and wasn't referring to you specifically.
I think if I had a go won't be able to know where to stop with some of the current lot and I know have had a go previously so not going to be hyporcritical.
I could say I fall in that group but I do rip into loads of the gorms than wear our shirt at the moment.
 
Well he is a leader, just you are missing the reasons why as explained above. Plenty would say the same. No point carrying on with that point as clearly we are both at different ends of the spectrum.
Your leadership point doesn't carry weight right now, not only has he been poor, there's a underlying toxic, Ronaldo-esque thing going on where he's acting up when decisions are made that benefit the team over him. He's always had that, and it's why both Klopp and Slot have struggled to limit his minutes when it's been obviously necessary.

Players look up to him and I'm sure he's a great example as a model pro for looking after himself and extending his shelf life, but let's not pretend he has the same level of humility and self-awarenesss as the likes of Milner or Virgil. If he looks pissed off it's not because we're losing first and foremost, it's because he's not performing, and if he's hooked or dropped you can guarantee he'll be annoyed because it's inhibiting his personal goals as much as anything. That might be unfair and the double edged sword of top class players, but he's far from the captain you're aimlessly selling him as.
 
Your leadership point doesn't carry weight right now, not only has he been poor, there's a underlying toxic, Ronaldo-esque thing going on where he's acting up when decisions are made that benefit the team over him. He's always had that, and it's why both Klopp and Slot have struggled to limit his minutes when it's been obviously necessary.

Players look up to him and I'm sure he's a great example as a model pro for looking after himself and extending his shelf life, but let's not pretend he has the same level of humility and self-awarenesss as the likes of Milner or Virgil. If he looks pissed off it's not because we're losing first and foremost, it's because he's not performing, and if he's hooked or dropped you can guarantee he'll be annoyed because it's inhibiting his personal goals as much as anything. That might be unfair and the double edged sword of top class players, but he's far from the captain you're aimlessly selling him as.
When did I say he was captain? You have got wrong one end of the stick clearly based on pure supposition, I meant he was leader in a sense Virgil, Robbo and Ali are. Not sure why hung up on that “leader”, number of times last season he was referred to as part if the leadership team. It’s just one aspect I mentioned about him.

I didn’t say he shouldn’t be dropped, again not sure where you got that from. The point was about what hs has added to the team over 9yrs and maybe cutting him some slack rather spoting constant hate. Either way, not one player is the reason why we have lost last 4 in PL.
Leader != Captain
 
We have talked at length about gakpo. You are missing the essential point though . Assume Gakpo and Salah both have a bad game, and they are both equally as unproductive in an attacking sense. It's mo who is hurting us more in that scenario, because he's useless off the ball.
This is where you are going wrong, this one player is hurting is more focus because if it was, it would be easier to fix. Gakpo was totally useless off the ball and so was Kerkez in the game I watched, Salah had a shocker despite the goal, whole left side was just as disfunctional as the right.
 
"Hate", Jesus Christ. You're going to some lengths to make your leader definition clear because we're misconstruing your meaning, yet we're apparently haters. Ok.
 
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