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rurikbird

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This is similar to how I feel. One thing I would add is that when you get to a level where you are competing for the very best players with the best clubs, it requires a different level of patience. These are the kinds of players everybody else wants and the selling clubs are desperate to hang on to them too. Think about De Gea to Madrid situation last year from the perspective of a Madrid fan – how gut-wrenching of an experience it must have been, to anticipate this transfer all summer, follow every twist of the the protracted negotiations until the last day of the transfer window, and then see it all fall apart on a technicality... And that's the richest and most desirable club in the world (and the most spoiled fans) we're talking about! But that's the kind of transfer sagas the biggest clubs are used to, because that's what it takes to sign the most desirable players.

My sense of Klopp's strategy is that he certainly has contingency plans in case VVD and Keita signings don't work out. I think VVD one is more crucial, because we definitely NEED a central defender, so I don't think we can wait too long on this one – if Saints make it clear they won't sell, at some point we'll need to move to the plan B or C (I think Keane was likely the plan B, so probably it's going to be plan C or D – that's the price you pay for waiting). With Keita, I really think this is more about improvement rather than plugging a clear weakness in the team – so if it doesn't happen this summer, I think Klopp possibly won't go for a similarly high-profile signing in midfield and will just wait until Keita's release clause kicks in next summer. I suspect this one could go to the wire. It's a tense situation, but on the other hand Klopp can afford to be fairly relaxed about this too, since there is not much we can do at this point except to give the selling club and the players in question some time to test each other's resolve and hopefully accept the inevitability of the sale.

Finally, on the LB front, I suspect the reason we haven't signed Robertson yet is because there is another player we think we could potentially get and we don't want to give up that option by committing to a signing now. I have no idea who that player might be, but sometimes things have a domino effect, like when a big club makes a signing and then a player who is being replaced (who could still be an excellent player) and who wasn't available until now, becomes available. That happens pretty often – for instance when Barca sold Maxwell to PSG after they got Mathieu, I think – and that's why in some cases it's advantageous to wait until later in the window when a few of those domino chains get started.
 
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We need a bulk purchase of those head umbrellas and send one to each and every 6CM poster - I'll wear mine with pride !
 
I'm guessing some are making negative comments in frustration over the lack of progression with certain transfers.
We've been patient for so many years and let down, so its understandable that some need confirmation that we're going in the right direction.

We're on a good way though and I agree with loads of what he's saying. Looking forward to the new season.
 
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A lot of the frustration stems from the fact our targets have been publicly available since March, Klopp quite smugly insinuated we were going to have a very exciting summer and the complete shambles of our VDV pursuit. I generally agree for all the points you made, although I read yesterday that the chairmen of RB Leipzig said no clause exists in Kietas contract. I also think we've told VVD to sit tight, reject all interest and we will return later in the window. That could easily backfire if they feel they are unable to spend the money this window. I'm sure plenty of clubs feel their transfer pursuits are a regularly a shambles but LFC seem to be on a whole different level of amateur. Nobody at the club has any proper football experience and it's painfully obvious at times.
 
A lot of the frustration stems from the fact our targets have been publicly available since March, Klopp quite smugly insinuated we were going to have a very exciting summer and the complete shambles of our VDV pursuit. I generally agree for all the points you made, although I read yesterday that the chairmen of RB Leipzig said no clause exists in Kietas contract. I also think we've told VVD to sit tight, reject all interest and we will return later in the window. That could easily backfire if they feel they are unable to spend the money this window. I'm sure plenty of clubs feel their transfer pursuits are a regularly a shambles but LFC seem to be on a whole different level of amateur. Nobody at the club has any proper football experience and it's painfully obvious at times.

All clubs face the same issues; they are not unique to Liverpool. Witness Chelsea's pursuit of Lukaku. 3 months of negotiations, only to be guzzumped in a day or two by Utd.

Or Utd in their pursuit of Perisic (or whatever his name is) or Morata. Protracted negotiations for weeks with no resolution in sight.

I think people - not necessarily you - are under the impression that these things are a lot more straightforward than they actually are.
 
It was club who leaked to the press that klopp had the biggest transfer kitty ever, deals where lined up, no Moreno talking required, targets identified etc. In reality this summer, is no different to previous years.
 
Anyone else notice that we have Agent Houllier on the case ? Seems he has been working for / now advising, RB for years and that he was the one responsible for RB signing Keita in the first place.
 
It was club who leaked to the press that klopp had the biggest transfer kitty ever, deals where lined up, no Moreno talking required, targets identified etc. In reality this summer, is no different to previous years.

How do you know the club leaked?
 
I dont the club leaked anything about money. No clubs do.

However there were direct quotes from Klopp in Early May that our deals were lined up and all but done.

The shambolic persuit of VVD and the lengthy too'ing and fro'ing before a Salah deal was agreed suggests thats bollocks.

I guess what he meant was we know who we want and will try to get them but it may take time and they may not be possible.

Maybe hes just too positive. That makes me positive. And then I get fucked off when we revert to same old same old.

A more sensible quote would have been 'Dont panic, we know our targets but negotiations can take a long time'
 
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