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Recently I found myself watching their games – at first to check out Aouar, but then focusing on other interesting players in that squad as well: Nabil Fekir, Tanguy Ndombele, the left-back Mendy (not the Man City one, the other one), Lucas Tousart... They can be a bit disjointed at times, but at their best they can play pretty scintillating football: fast, aggressive and and full of invention, particularly when Fekir, Depay or Aouar is on the ball. Depay has been in and out of the team for most of the season, but in the last few weeks he has found new life playing as the #10 or second striker and has been central to Lyon's late push for 2nd place in the League 1 standings. Here's an article with some more background on the state of things in Lyon:

You do not have the right to be eliminated in this way,” Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas told his squad after their defeat to CSKA Moscow in the Europa League last month. Lyon had won in Russia the week before but a 3-2 defeat in their own ground ended their hopes of reaching the quarter-finals and Aulas was not happy. “Individualistic behaviour always ends up being punished!”
With forwards playing for themselves and the team barely playing like one, Lyon’s season was in danger of finishing two months early. Their next game was trip to Marseille, who were five points above them in the league table, so Aulas made his feelings known. His opinionated persona can be problematic but at times it also makes him an inspirational leader. In this case his rage instigated a spectacular turnaround for his coach, his team and, especially, Memphis Depay.
Bruno Génésio has long been the nearly man at Lyon but, with his job on the line before the Marseille game, the manager received a helping hand from the opposition in the build-up. “Forgive me for being vulgar,” said young Marseille midfielder André-Frank Zambo Anguissa, “but we want to destroy them.” These words soon adorned Lyon’s dressing room wall, stoking a rivalry that never requires much rekindling. Lyon were at last ready to fight.
For long periods of a rumbustious, streetwise 3-2 win, Lyon finally looked like they were playing for each other. They frustrated Marseille, keeping possession brilliantly in an uncharacteristically mature display. Depay, who had been dropped after the CSKA game, came on and scored a last-minute header, a winning goal that underlined both his ability and his inconsistency.
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Memphis Depay shows off his remarkable tattoos. Photograph: Sebastien Nogier/EPA
As his players drifted off to international duty after the Marseille game, Génésio was again given an unexpected helping hand. With the Netherlands lacking attacking options, new manager Ronald Koeman deployed Depay as a centre-forward in a 3-5-2 for their trip to Lisbon. Depay stood out and scored in an eye-catching 3-0 win against the European champions. Koeman praised the forward for “working hard for the team.” He had given Depay more responsibility to create and score goals, and, perhaps surprisingly, Depay relished it. When the Dutchman return to Lyon, Génésio took Koeman’s ideas and ran with them.
Utilised as a centre-forward, Depay has gloriously returned to the form he showed at PSV and at the 2014 World Cup. Lyon have won all five of their league games since the Netherlands beat Portugal, scoring 17 goals and conceding just twice. Depay has been superb, scoring or setting up 12 of those goals.
Previously, Depay had been a little stranded while playing out wide for Lyon. Opposition teams tend to sit in against them, with midfielders doubling up to help their full-backs. Denied space and frustrated by defenders, Depay often tried to dribble his way out, which rarely worked. He also struggled with the defensive responsibilities required by a wide player. “It was impossible for me to play this way,” admitted Depay. “It wasn’t really where I was at my best.”
In central areas – whether as a false nine, playing off another striker or as an attacking midfielder – Depay can seek out space, follow his instincts and play to his strengths: pace, skill and, now that he is much closer to goal, finishing. Depay believes he is capable of becoming the best player in the world so being appointed the attacker in chief has clearly tapped into his self-confidence and sense of self-importance.

Crucially for Génésio, Depay’s rebirth as a striker has solved, almost overnight, a number of tactical issues he had struggled with throughout the season. The diamond used in Lyon’s 2-0 win over a floundering Nantes this weekend allowed his supremely talented midfield quartet to play to their strengths. The balletic 19-year-old Houssem Aouar in particular benefitted from a central midfield role, rather than being forced out wide, as did talismanic captain Nabil Fékir, while the marauding Tanguy Ndombélé is also given the freedom to bulldoze around midfield by holding player Lucas Tousart.
Génésio is again riding high, having come so close to finally folding. Considering his powers of recovery, perhaps his latest salvage operation should not come as a shock. The newly freewheeling Lyon, led by Depay, are back above Monaco in second in Ligue 1 with Champions League football on the horizon once more. Ominously for the rest of Ligue 1, however, the notoriously erratic Depay might have finally found his footing. “I can do a lot better if I believe in myself more,” said the Dutchman after his goal and four assists helped thrash Metz earlier this month. “I like playing in this position.” President Aulas, though always divisive, may have proved decisive again.

Here's the "diamond" they are talking about:

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I have to say Depay was one of my favorite players back in Holland and I was dreading to see him at United (and happy that he failed so spectacularly) – but the talent is still there and at 24 he might still get a chance to play at the top level. Fekir is 24 as well and has been creating and finishing chances with almost Salah-like efficiency and I think the 19-year-old Aouar is showing every sign of a future big player. But Depay's numbers – 16 league goals AND 12 assists or 19 and 16 respectively in all competitions – are truly spectacular. Whatever confidence or personal issues held him back in England seem to be gone and the talent and skill is very much on par with likes of Sane, Barca's Dembele or our Mane. I think Lyon and their collection of talents are certainly worth following.
 
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Recently I found myself watching their games – at first to check out Aouar, but then focusing on other interesting players in that squad as well: Nabil Fekir, Tanguy Ndombele, the left-back Mendy (not the Man City one, the other one), Lucas Tousart... They can be a bit disjointed at times, but at their best they can play pretty scintillating football: fast, aggressive and and full of invention, particularly when Fekir, Depay or Aouar is on the ball. Depay has been in and out of the team for most of the season, but in the last few weeks he has found new life playing as the #10 and has been central to Lyon's push for 2nd place in the League 1 standings. Here's an article with some more background on the state of things in Lyon:



Here's the "diamond" they are talking about:

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I have to say Depay was one of my favorite players back in Holland and I was dreading to see him at United (and happy that he failed so spectacularly) – but the talent is still there and at 24 he might still get a chance to play at the top level. Fekir is 24 as well and has been creating and finishing chances with almost Salah-like efficiency and I think the 19-year-old Aouar is showing every sign of a future big player. But Depay's numbers – 16 league goals AND 12 assists or 19 and 16 respectively in all competitions – are truly spectacular. Whatever confidence or personal issues held him back in England seem to be gone and the talent and skill is very much on par with likes of Sane, Barca's Dembele or our Mane. I think Lyon and their collection of talents are certainly worth following.
How much would you pay for Depay, Fekir or Aouar?
 
How much would you pay for Depay, Fekir or Aouar?

I'm not good at money – it all depends on a lot of things like contract situation, club ambitions etc etc. I suspect Lyon would let Depay go more easily than the other 2 though – Aouar is the future and Fekir is their captain and probably the best player of the last couple of seasons. Depay's transformation into a monster player has been very recent and they probably don't value him as much quite yet.

Not that negotiating with Aulas is ever easy...

Here's what I mean by "monster" – look at the last 6 games:
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You could say it's a purple patch, but I think it's more an expression of the top-level talent he always had that was previously not fully realized for one reason or another. He's going to be a £100M+ player if he continues like this just a while longer...
 
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Fekir is a trickster, a bit like a Quaresma (only playing through the middle rather than the wing) – super talented, but I think some of the tricks hide weaknesses in his game. He is currently Lyon's best player, no doubt, but long-term I have doubts whether he can deliver at a higher level.
 
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Recently I found myself watching their games – at first to check out Aouar, but then focusing on other interesting players in that squad as well: Nabil Fekir, Tanguy Ndombele, the left-back Mendy (not the Man City one, the other one), Lucas Tousart...
PSG eyeing Ndombele (as a younger & cheaper alternative to Kante)
 
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[article]A VERY SKILLED “9 AND A HALF”

Born in Lyon in July 1993, Nabil Fekir is a left-footed attacking midfielder, playing (and captaining) for Olympique Lyonnais.

Fekir joined Lyon’s youth academy at the age of 12, but was soon released for not being strong enough. The young Nabil, however, showed a great attitude, stubbornness and a big deal of love for OL: apparently, he turned down an offer from Saint-Etienne, since his dream was to play for Les Gones. He became stronger and stronger, until was signed back by Lyon six years later, in 2010. Not tall (173cm), he now displays quite a muscled figure, weighing 72 kg.

He made his Lyon first team debut on 28 August 2013 in a 2–0 Champions League play-off round second leg away loss to Real Sociedad. In FL1, so far he has played 108 matches for Lyon, scoring 43 goals.

On 4 September 2015, he made his first start for the France senior team in a 1–0 away friendly win over Portugal, during which he ruptured three ligaments in his right knee, putting him out of action for an estimated six months. On 7 October 2016, he made his competitive debut for France as an 83rd-minute substitute for Antoine Griezmann in the 2018 World Cup qualifying 4–1 win over Bulgaria at the Stade de France.

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As the table above shows, Fekir has scored 0.5 times every 90 minutes for Lyon (FL1 and European Cups), shooting around 3 times per 90 minutes, with a shot accuracy of 46% (1.4 shots on target per 90 minutes) and a goal conversion rate, in open play, of 17%. These are numbers normally associated with a pure forward. However, the number of assists, the number of successful dribbles and of key passes per match (0.2, 2.9 and 2.1, respectively) are typical of an attacking midfielder.

So, is he a 9 or a 10? We take a quote of Michel Platini, who described Roberto Baggio as a “9 and a half”, as he was not a true number 9 striker, due to his creative ability, but he scored more than a number 10 playmaker. We believe that the definition could apply to Nabil Fekir as well.

We wrote, for instance, about Fekir’s similarities to Paulo Dybala, in October 2017 (‘Top forwards were born in 1993‘).

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CURRENT SEASON: HIGHER-THAN-AVERAGE SHOT ACCURACY AND GOAL CONVERSION RATE

In the spider chart below, we compare Fekir’s stats this season with the average of more than 100 forwards of the 5 major leagues. We notice three main differences.

First of all, the number of dribbles he has been able to complete every 90 minutes: 3.3 vs 2.0, which well distinguish his technical skills.

More surprisingly (given his position on the pitch), Fekir displays a higher-than-average shot accuracy (54% vs 42% average) and goal conversion rate (24% vs 16%), as well as an in-line number of shots per 90 minutes (3.2 vs 3.4).

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HOW IS FEKIR’S GAME EVOLVING?

Since his first season in FL1, Fekir has been showing an increasing shooting attitude. However, as the chart below shows, in the past three years the number of shots per 90 minutes has stabilise at around 3.

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Fekir’s shot accuracy, i.e. the percentage of the shots on target on total shots, has been showing a U-shape: it dropped to 40% as the player increased the number of shots, but this year increased again to 50%, above the average forward.

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The goal conversion rate in open play is normally a “volatile” number and Fekir shows no difference on this front. This season, it has been 23% so far, almost doubling from the past season.

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OUTPERFORMING EXPECTED GOALS: SUSTAINABLE?

In our post “Goals in Europe, Feb 2018 update“, we anticipated that we would have analysed the outperformance that Nabil Fekir is enjoying vs xG (‘expected goals’).

As of 11 Feb 2018, excluding penalties, the expected goals of Fekir were 7.49, according to understat.com, against the 14 (non-penalty) goals he has scored. Basically, he has scored almost twice the amount of goals that the xG model would assume. We can see from the chart below that the ratio of non-penalty goals on non-penalty expected goals is way ahead of the other top scorers.

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The question is whether this outperformance is sustainable or not. The only thing we can do here, is to look at the historical data and see how Nabil Fekir usually performs. We looked at the past four seasons, starting from 2014/15.

From the chart below, we can see that Fekir’s average percentage of non-penalty goals on non-penalty expected goals stands at 144%. Still a very good outperformance vs xG. However, this probably means that the current number (187%) is difficult to be maintained for the rest of the season. Furthermore, we note that, since our post, published two weeks ago, the percentage has already declined by 5 percentage points. Having said that, only time (and football) will tell!

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I'd take Fekir over Zaha every day of the week. Zaha flatters to deceive, a hit or miss speedster (who will likely cost in the region of £40m+ anyway), but Fekir has been performing at this level for two seasons now and €70m isn't outrageous for an attacking midfielder (or maybe Klop sees him also as a Firmino stand-in when required).

He looks like he'd fit in beautifully at the head of our midfield too, someone who can go past players and create. Plus he looks tailor-made for the PL with that low centre of gravity and strength on the ball. To say nothing of those outrageous tricks !
 
Mane on Fekir "If he comes he'll do great things with us. Yes, it will be like fire if he comes."
 
Don't know if it needs its own thread.. But strong reports emerging that for Fekir.

€70m fee agreed
Fekir has met Klopp
Pair on great terms
Informed club he wants to join Liverpool
 
Don't know if it needs its own thread.. But strong reports emerging that for Fekir.

€70m fee agreed
Fekir has met Klopp
Pair on great terms
Informed club he wants to join Liverpool

Chelsea was interested too but Klopp's charm offensive worked (apparently)

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Would this guy play the coutinho role ?
I thought the world had decided we played better with that grafting midfield trio behind the lethal front trio as we've done since January ?
 
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