Have I mentioned Davies is fucking shit?
Our rivals this season
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You're letting your long suffering experience of our own past players cloud your judgement. At other clubs, players simply come back from an injury or arrive from overseas and shockingly don't forget how to play football.
I think it's as much about us as it is 'them'.
As much as we have the ability to to do similar to last season, I doubt we have the collective stamina.
City have a way deeper & bigger squad, they struggled after two massive point seasons, we're coming off the back of almost 200 points in two seasons, plus a tension filled 'break' followed by almost non stop football up to the start of this season, which will be massively compressed.
There's every chance we could see a drop off in physicality & that a drop in form will follow, plus a need to rotate more than normal will play havoc with the momentum Klopp's sides rely on so much.
Thankfully I think it's unlikely any side will romp away with it like city & ourselves have made the norm over the last few seasons, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we look more like a cup side this season than a consistent league winning side.
As much as we have the ability to to do similar to last season, I doubt we have the collective stamina.
City have a way deeper & bigger squad, they struggled after two massive point seasons, we're coming off the back of almost 200 points in two seasons, plus a tension filled 'break' followed by almost non stop football up to the start of this season, which will be massively compressed.
There's every chance we could see a drop off in physicality & that a drop in form will follow, plus a need to rotate more than normal will play havoc with the momentum Klopp's sides rely on so much.
Thankfully I think it's unlikely any side will romp away with it like city & ourselves have made the norm over the last few seasons, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we look more like a cup side this season than a consistent league winning side.
I still think we had a completely different post lockdown regime than anyone else. We’ve had 2 mini-preseasons. That added with actually winning the title led to our drop off in performance levels. That makes me think we won’t have the third season burnout city had last season.
Yeah, I should rephrase. Probably the best 'forward line' line in the league, especially if they add Sancho. I can see them being more creative as well with Bruno Fernandes being more settled, and the addition of van de Beek.
City are technically the best side in the league, with an abundance of technically brilliant and creative attacking mids and wingers. They'll probably score the most. That said, Aguero's age and fitness will concern them. For all their overwhelmingly good attacking play, they need his finishing.
With our attack, the biggest concern is that their statistical output is clearly reducing. A couple of years ago, they wreaked havoc in open spaces. But there isn't a team in Europe who makes that mistake with us anymore. They're of course too good to rendered completely blunt, but we need to find a way to make them as potent as they were before. I do think Minamino will help though.
The best way of course would be add another top quality pack attacker to give us something completely new to throw at teams.
You assumed I dislike the man, but the actual fact is Mourinho is a manager that usually thrive when he took over a ready made super team. From Chelsea first and second stint, to Inter who was already champions of Italy before he arrived, to Real Madrid that housed the likes of Xabi Alonso and Ronaldo before he arrived. Have a look at him managing sub-parred players at United, and having to rebuild the entire squad, and see what happened there. He isn't the type that build teams or squad, he is the manager that takes already great player, meshed them up and make them play a winning formula. You think Spurs have that in them? I have my bet on Ancelotti's team being far better on the eye and able to mount some form of top 6 challenge if not 4th this coming season than Spurs and even United.
i am intrigued with this claim, so i check it out here https://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-premier-league-2019-2020/.
martial, rashford and greenwood only scored 44 goals among them while salah, mane, firmino and origi scored 50. even if we take origi out, just to make it 3-3, our forward line still scored 46.
i don't know if you consider bruno fernandes with 8 goals as a forward. we still have ox with 4, and keita 2 and few other midfielders do contribute 1-2 goals each.
I was going by all competitions.
Rashford, Martial, Greenwood - 62 goals
Salah, Mane, Firmino - 57 goals
Think most of you under estimate Chelsea chances...
Kai Havertz,Timo Werner,,Hakim Ziyech, added to Tam Abraham,Mason,Christian Pulisic Tony Mount In attack & Midfiled...Thiago Silva, Ben Chilwell to strengten defence... This team rivals City easily in almost every area on the pitch including Quality off the bench, Pulisic being their new Hazzard
The way I see it is...
Title winners..... City/Chelsea
3rd place Liverpool/Utd/Arsenal...
Utd will try and strengthen by signing Sancho and Alcantara,
Arsenal some good signing, and players beginning to perfrom for the manager...
Liverpool.. Done well last season.We are strong in midfield,but still weak in one key area... Strikers coming off the bench. A long term injury to Mane or Salah (especially Mane) we will struggle.
6th Spurs
Kai Havertz,Timo Werner,,Hakim Ziyech, added to Tam Abraham,Mason,Christian Pulisic Tony Mount In attack & Midfiled...Thiago Silva, Ben Chilwell to strengten defence... This team rivals City easily in almost every area on the pitch including Quality off the bench, Pulisic being their new Hazzard
The way I see it is...
Title winners..... City/Chelsea
3rd place Liverpool/Utd/Arsenal...
Utd will try and strengthen by signing Sancho and Alcantara,
Arsenal some good signing, and players beginning to perfrom for the manager...
Liverpool.. Done well last season.We are strong in midfield,but still weak in one key area... Strikers coming off the bench. A long term injury to Mane or Salah (especially Mane) we will struggle.
6th Spurs
In fairness I think Greenwood only started in the front three about the last third of the season
You clearly play alot of FIFA/ football manager
I want to hear more about this Tony Mount.
Liverpool.. Done well last season.We are strong in midfield,but still weak in one key area... Strikers coming off the bench. A long term injury to Mane or Salah (especially Mane) we will struggle.
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Without jumping in on the DR bashing... we're fucking Champions!!!!
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Without jumping in on the DR bashing... we're fucking Champions!!!!
Which is fair, but they also played quite far in to the Europa League against plodders. Least we had the decency to be shit in the domestic cups.
What are the appearance figures? Similar?
If you’re going by all competitions, I think you’d have to at the very least provide the number of games played by the forwards.
Can you add some weighting for the shite they scored against?
He was going to leave but there was a 'slip up' on some IG clip City released.
I googled "Fernandinho retired" and nothing says he's stopped playing ...
He is available to buy as a Man City defender on fantasy football. That means he is still there.
44 league goals for the Utd trio and 48 for our front three.
Mason Tony Mount is his full name
Without jumping in on the DR bashing... we're fucking Champions!!!![/QUOTE]
Mate so was Leicester City for one season... How do they put it... "If you snooze you lose"... We are fast a sleep
Can you spot one massive error with your Leicester comparison? Actually, I can find 2 major ones.
Mate so was Leicester City for one season... How do they put it... "If you snooze you lose"... We are fast a sleep[/QUOTE]
Stop comparing us to Leicester City. They were never the best team in Europe or anywhere near it. We are.
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