Cos they're fucking shit
Patience
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Cos they're fucking shit
Yeah but they're worse and we're at Anfield
This season was always going to be super tough.
Plenty of time to settle in the players and the league was always going to be a tall ask with so much change of personal and playing style to accomodate them.
Plenty of time to settle in the players and the league was always going to be a tall ask with so much change of personal and playing style to accomodate them.
Wirtz and Frimpong were total shit again today. Im calling it early - Wirtz doesnt have what it takes to succeed in this league. He looks lost, lightweight, and lethargic. I dont care that he's young and needs "time to adjust". We have just bought a midfielder shitter than Curtis Jones for 110m quid. And I'm not being hysterical or reactionary (before Mark comes in with his favorite name calling) - I'm only saying this because I'm saving you all the exhaustion of investing emotionally in this kid. The data nerds got this one wrong - he's bollocks.
He’s a Rolls Royce of a player.
Expensive, looks flashy, has others wishing they had one but in reality they are extremely unpractical and cause you more headaches than its worth. We have (had?) a system where a Toyota off road is needed, not an expensive show piece.
We had a system where Elliott couldn’t work and went out and bought a German Elliott without the output.
Expensive, looks flashy, has others wishing they had one but in reality they are extremely unpractical and cause you more headaches than its worth. We have (had?) a system where a Toyota off road is needed, not an expensive show piece.
We had a system where Elliott couldn’t work and went out and bought a German Elliott without the output.
Then there’s the other signings.
Frimpong, a wing back where we don’t play with wing backs. Coupled with Wirtz, are they great system players rather than great players? Not an upgrade on Trent and I was sick of that prick by the time he left.
Kerkez has started to show glimpses why he’s an upgrade on Tsimikas.
Isak & Ekitike have replaced Nunez. Two players, same thing, £210 million.
Jota not replaced.
Diaz - replaced with Ngumoha who is a kid and needs to be managed.
Leoni - looked class on his debut, now dead. Can’t say any more that’s just bad luck.
What did we really need? A DM to replace Endo. Someone Slot would play meaning Gravy can push forward when Mac is off it. A RW to replace Mo when Mo is playing like he is now. Someone who wasn’t Nunez (and we got 2!). A 23 year old version of Jota. A young LB, which we’ve done. Another CB because having Gomez is a waste of everyone’s time and if Konate is not signing a new contract he needed binning. An actual right back to work with Bradley.
It’s not a case of patience, we’ve not addressed what were the biggest issues and spunked a load of money on players we didn’t need.
Frimpong, a wing back where we don’t play with wing backs. Coupled with Wirtz, are they great system players rather than great players? Not an upgrade on Trent and I was sick of that prick by the time he left.
Kerkez has started to show glimpses why he’s an upgrade on Tsimikas.
Isak & Ekitike have replaced Nunez. Two players, same thing, £210 million.
Jota not replaced.
Diaz - replaced with Ngumoha who is a kid and needs to be managed.
Leoni - looked class on his debut, now dead. Can’t say any more that’s just bad luck.
What did we really need? A DM to replace Endo. Someone Slot would play meaning Gravy can push forward when Mac is off it. A RW to replace Mo when Mo is playing like he is now. Someone who wasn’t Nunez (and we got 2!). A 23 year old version of Jota. A young LB, which we’ve done. Another CB because having Gomez is a waste of everyone’s time and if Konate is not signing a new contract he needed binning. An actual right back to work with Bradley.
It’s not a case of patience, we’ve not addressed what were the biggest issues and spunked a load of money on players we didn’t need.
Damn that might be a draw then
Wirtz has been fucking shit. If we had thrown Elliott or Jones in whatever role Wirtz has been doing, and they were turning in these performances, then the forum would be out for blood and bemoaning Slot for fucking up a winning formula, and that would have cost us fuck all. The idea that Wirtz was so good he was worth changing a title-winning formula for, but he's playing like Luis Garcia, minus all the joy, goals, special moments, and tricks. Those infuriating days where it wasn't clicking for him, but nobody really cared because he cost fuck all and he had all the credit in the bank. As it stands, we cannot keep indulging such carelessness in possession, inability to hold up the ball or low attacking output. He's failing on all the key metrics, and whilst he's not fully responsible, he has to be part of the reason why we're so god damn exposed all the time. We also need all areas of the team to improve to maintain possession and structure better for a 10 to thrive, but that doesn't excuse the ineffectiveness of the performances to date. I do maintain he's a very gifted and talented footballer, who can make it here, but things have got to improve sharpish if he's to stay in the side.
If Virg picks up an injury, we’re cooked. Arsenal will walk away with it.
I'd go even further and say any of the CB's. We are far too comfortable considering Robbo/Endo as a fourth choice CB and, 5 games a year, Joe Gomez as the first replacement.
I'll reiterate what I've said earlier today - a lot of this isn't on the new players (yes they can make sure their passes go to feet but they may be trying too hard to make something special work). I can't help but feel, watching the matches, that the key issue is that last season's backbone is a non-entity with ridiculously poor performances (regardless of fitness) from : Salah, Macca, Jones, Gakpo and worst of all Konate. They look nothing like the players of last season.
How difficult is it for new players to integrate and excel when all around them world class players aren't even playing to a Championship level (effort)? When their runs are ignored, when passes don't reach them, when moves break down because players are off doing their own thing (Gakpo) or can't even control the ball (Salah and Konate) or are having countless brainfarts (Konate) or just lumping long ball after long ball upfield (Konate again). Is this a confidence thing? Fitness? Emotional lows (inc. Diogo) after last season's highs ?
Until these players start to show last season's form it's going to be very hard, nigh on impossible, for the new players to integrate and show their true form/worth. In the meantime it seems most blame is being cast in the direction of the newbies. That's a misdirect IMO.
How difficult is it for new players to integrate and excel when all around them world class players aren't even playing to a Championship level (effort)? When their runs are ignored, when passes don't reach them, when moves break down because players are off doing their own thing (Gakpo) or can't even control the ball (Salah and Konate) or are having countless brainfarts (Konate) or just lumping long ball after long ball upfield (Konate again). Is this a confidence thing? Fitness? Emotional lows (inc. Diogo) after last season's highs ?
Until these players start to show last season's form it's going to be very hard, nigh on impossible, for the new players to integrate and show their true form/worth. In the meantime it seems most blame is being cast in the direction of the newbies. That's a misdirect IMO.
Maybe it's the Manager just trying to figure things out, too.
Oh and I think Chiesa has the bit of Jota about him. Natural finisher. Doesn't need too many chances to score.
Isak and Eketike are HUGE upgrades on the donkey, but Isak not fit yet.
We'll get there. We just have a few internal obstacles to navigate,
Oh and I think Chiesa has the bit of Jota about him. Natural finisher. Doesn't need too many chances to score.
Isak and Eketike are HUGE upgrades on the donkey, but Isak not fit yet.
We'll get there. We just have a few internal obstacles to navigate,
Chiesa as Jota (but from the wing). I can get behind that. Clutch, hard-working and determined, prone to injury and needing management.
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