PL clubs 'plotting' against Man City playing in Europe next Season..

[6TimesaRed]

Eight of the Premier League's current top 10 have reportedly written to CAS to prevent City's Champions League ban being stayed should the club ask for it while appeal is ongoing..

Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal are among eight clubs who have reportedly written to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to stop Manchester City playing in next season's Champions League.

More Here >> https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-liverpool-among-clubs-21749231

 

[6TimesaRed]

Blue fume is going to be interesting read for the next couple of days..

Some mild entertainment whilst we are in lockdown with no football..

 

[manwithnoname]

"Plotting" seems a rather pejorative word to use, given they're fucking cheats and deserve every possible censure and punishment.

But I can't even get excited about this with the "void" word hanging over OUR heads

 

[moron]

I actually think we would have been better to stay out of all this, and mind our own business. Can understand why United, and the likes of Arsenal would want this, but we should not be bothered by this - unless ... unless we get awarded the PL title for last season, and the season where SG slipped. - That will do for me.

 

[hmmmmm1]

Makes sense if they have broken the rules.

 

[6TimesaRed]

But I can't even get excited about this with the "void" word hanging over OUR heads

Ideally the Pemier League deduct them points on the back of this too.. Title won regardless of how the league finishes..

 

[Beamrider]

I think this puts City on a very sticky wicket. There's clearly discontent among the EPL clubs and there's a good chance more than 8 would support action against them (presumably it's only 8 of the top 10, being those challenging for European qualification).
Even if they win at CAS, they could still be in trouble with the EPL. I'm not convinced they will win at CAS (because CAS tends to stick up for "the little man") and if they do it might only be on a technicality over the evidence being lifted from a hack of their email (i.e. inadmissible evidence).
By contrast, the EPL's rules specifically state that normal rules of inadmissible evidence won't apply in disciplinary proceedings. So EPL could use the footyleaks emails as evidence unless City can prove they are fake / unreliable.
If 15 or more clubs support action being taken, the EPL will have to do something. Those clubs could, in theory, vote to eject City from the league and that threat might be the leverage they need to get them taken down a peg or two.

W.75. In the exercise of their powers under this Section of these Rules, a Commission or an Appeal Board shall not be bound by judicial rules governing the admissibility of evidence. Instead, facts relating to a breach of these Rules may be established by any reliable means.​

 

[Donavan Ried]

I actually think we would have been better to stay out of all this, and mind our own business. Can understand why United, and the likes of Arsenal would want this, but we should not be bothered by this - unless ... unless we get awarded the PL title for last season, and the season where SG slipped. - That will do for me.

Totally correct

 

[mark1975]

City fumers are still all convinced that the FA are ready to tear us apart over the hacking thing.

 

[MomoWASright]

Based on what? Conversations between themselves over a can of boddingtons?

There hasn’t been any murmurings from any sources.

 

[Hyena]

We don't gain anything from booting City out of the champions league. I reckon we are just going along to appease the other eight clubs so they don't null and void the season

 

[Hansern]

City exectuives are surprised Liverpool are one of the teams involved. Surprised that we dont like cheating?

 

[Mors]

The premier league could step in and give them a 2yr effective ban anyway if they fancied, by penalising them league places or deducting points at the end of each season, just enough so they don't qualify. If they've been cheating the FFP for the champions league, then surely they've been doing it to the premier league at the same time, so they should be getting an equally severe punishment from them. A fine is no good again, it's got to points and transfer bans etc.

 

[MomoWASright]

Just refuse them to entry of any football competition for 999 years. I’ll be happy with that.

 

[Halmeister]

Nothing will happen.

 

[Frogfish]

I think this puts City on a very sticky wicket. There's clearly discontent among the EPL clubs and there's a good chance more than 8 would support action against them (presumably it's only 8 of the top 10, being those challenging for European qualification).
Even if they win at CAS, they could still be in trouble with the EPL. I'm not convinced they will win at CAS (because CAS tends to stick up for "the little man") and if they do it might only be on a technicality over the evidence being lifted from a hack of their email (i.e. inadmissible evidence).
By contrast, the EPL's rules specifically state that normal rules of inadmissible evidence won't apply in disciplinary proceedings. So EPL could use the footyleaks emails as evidence unless City can prove they are fake / unreliable.
If 15 or more clubs support action being taken, the EPL will have to do something. Those clubs could, in theory, vote to eject City from the league and that threat might be the leverage they need to get them taken down a peg or two.

W.75. In the exercise of their powers under this Section of these Rules, a Commission or an Appeal Board shall not be bound by judicial rules governing the admissibility of evidence. Instead, facts relating to a breach of these Rules may be established by any reliable means.​

Hmm hopefully we'll see a 'Rangers-like' penalty then. Relegation to the 2nd Division with any luck.

Or a points deduction as per Saracens in Rugby Union. 56 points or something like that.

 

[Beamrider]

The relegation thing is a good point. If City were to be ejected from the League, the team in 18th would be spared relegation under the EPL rules. So we have 8 out of 10 teams at the top wanting to see them punished and teams towards the bottom looking at the possibility of avoiding relegation if City were to go down in their place. Interesting times.

 

[binomial]

Does anyone have the address for CAS? I'd quite like to write to them myself.

 

[Donavan Ried]

Nothing will happen.

although they should be punished I tend to agree with you there will either be a monetary punishment which under appeal will be reduced, or a suspended punishment both of which will amount to nothing in really terms becuase it will still allow City to continue their business as normal

 

[rurikbird]

although they should be punished I tend to agree with you there will either be a monetary punishment which under appeal will be reduced, or a suspended punishment both of which will amount to nothing in really terms becuase it will still allow City to continue their business as normal

The fact that 8 top EPL clubs made a joint appeal to CAS makes me think something is brewing and City won’t be let off the hook. If Juve can be dropped down 2 divisions for cheating in Italy, why should the fucking City be spared?

 

[hmmmmm1]

Juve were relegated cus they we’re accused of coercing league officials to make favourable refereeing appointments

This charge for city isn’t comparable

 

[Halmeister]

The fact that 8 top EPL clubs made a joint appeal to CAS makes me think something is brewing and City won’t be let off the hook. If Juve can be dropped down 2 divisions for cheating in Italy, why should the fucking City be spared?

Because they have gazillions of pounds and nice things don't happen to Liverpool fans regarding the league

 

[Donavan Ried]

The fact that 8 top EPL clubs made a joint appeal to CAS makes me think something is brewing and City won’t be let off the hook. If Juve can be dropped down 2 divisions for cheating in Italy, why should the fucking City be spared?

When I first read about this I suggested that the same punishment that Juve incured should be dealt out to City, but I am now seeing as far as the Premier League and the FA goes; they believe that they would lose to much money, and Sky,BT and Virgin will be putting pressure on them to just give City a slap on the wrist.... Money talks

 

[MomoWASright]

Why? City have about 16 fans.

 

[Beamrider]

A better comparison here is Rangers. They broke financial rules, were relegated. That was a gift to the lower leagues who saw better attendances and more interest in their league - City being relegated would be huge for the Football League.
Of course the downside is there has been no competition in Scotland ever since and EPL might be concerned we could dominate the way Celtic have, but I think the other clubs below us would put up more of a fight. Until a couple of years ago, EPL was not a 2-horse race every year.

 

[Halmeister]

They won't get relegated. Absolutely no chance. They might get a points deduction, but even that I doubt.

They'll likely have nothing happen to them, or some sort of suspended punishment, or some meaningless fine.

 

[Woland]

Long after we're all dead