Player Ratings (H) vs Chelsea

[Frogfish]

Kicking this off with Sky, BBC's etc. ratings (yeah yeah some don't care but personally I like to see how others rated them) :

Stats
Possession 66% to 34%
Shots 23 (8) to 6 (3)
Corners 12-3
Fouls committed 13 - 4 (fuck this was poor - by the ref.)
Saves 2-6
We also dominated Tackles and Aerial Duels by a ratio of 2:1.

Voting on the BBC from viewers (starting 11) :

1. Elliott
2. VvD
3. Mo
10. Firmino (but only 45 mins) otherwise Hendo.
11. Robertson (bit harsh this, though far from his best he still had 4 Key passes)
SKY Player ratings

Liverpool: Alisson (6), Alexander-Arnold (7), Matip (7), Van Dijk (7), Robertson (6), Elliott (7), Henderson (6), Fabinho (6), Salah (7), Firmino (6), Mane (6),
Subs: Jota (6), Thiago (6), Tsimikas (N/A)

Chelsea: Mendy (7), Azpilicueta (8), Rudiger (8), Christensen (8), James (4), Jorginho (6), Kante (7), Alonso (6), Mount (7), Havertz (8), Lukaku (6)
Subs: Thiago Silva (7), Kovacic (6), Chalobah (N/A)

Man of the match: Andreas Christensen (Chelsea)
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TIA
Liverpool: Alisson (7), Alexander-Arnold (7), Matip (7), Van Dijk (8), Robertson (6), Elliott (8 MotM), Henderson (7), Fabinho (7), Salah (7), Firmino (7, Jota 5), Mane (7)

ECHO
Liverpool: Alisson (7), Alexander-Arnold (8), Matip (7), Van Dijk (7), Robertson (6), Elliott (7), Henderson (6), Fabinho (6), Salah (8), Firmino (6 .... Jota 6), Mane (7)

Rousing the Kop
Liverpool: Alisson (7), Alexander-Arnold (7), Matip (6), Van Dijk (7), Robertson (8 - WTF, seriously !?), Elliott (7), Henderson (6), Fabinho (7), Salah (7), Firmino (6 .... Jota 5), Mane (5)

Moi
Alisson (6 - little to do)
Alexander-Arnold (7 - 5 key passes),
Matip (5 - sublime to the ridiculous),
Van Dijk (8 - imperious, nullified Lukaku completely),
Robertson (6 - far from his best and ball-watched Havetz for the corner/goal, he deserved to be subbed off but note also 4 key passes),
Elliott (8 - superb debut from a future superstar),
Henderson (5 - not even an average game by his standards, poor crosses and should have scored),
Fabinho (6 - not at his best but even played as an AM at times),
Salah (7 tied Alonso up in knots and rarely gave the ball away, we should have made a lot more of TAA, Elliott and Mo on the right),
Firmino (6 - an excellent effort dropping deep to assist midfield, clearly affected our overall effectiveness when replaced by Jota)
Mane (4 - incredibly frustrating, capable of going from the sublime to the ridiculous in a blink of eye. Poor technical control and terrible passing - only 75% success from 40 passes meant 10 went astray)

Jota 6 - ineffective
Thiago (6 - should have been on earlier, there was literally no danger bar the odd break, which were well managed)
Tsimikas (6) his fine form over the past two games before this should have been rewarded (though I was still for Robbo starting I now think that was an error).

Klopp - 6 - subs made far too late, once our pace dipped 20 mins into the 2nd half, the subs should have been made. Probably chose the right team to start though, as the first half showed when we winkled out scoring chances we should have made more of.

Notable stats
Firmino 94.7% passing accuracy (17 passes)
Mane 40 passes with 75% accuracy. Gave away 3 fouls, gained 0.
Fabs - won 2 tackles, won 2 fouls conceded 3 fouls
Elliott - 107 touches (only TAA had more 112, next VvD with 97) 86 passes @ 87.2% accuracy
TAA - 112 touches, 84 passes @ 82.1% accuracy. 5 Key passes.

Just two comments
1) on that twat Azpilicueta, throwing himself to the floor holding his face when the replays showed nothing went near his face bar his own hands ... to cover it.
2) on Tuchel and Azpilicueta stating that the ref. only looked at a still image - even we could see the video playing as he walked up, before they froze it at the critical moment.

 

[Stevesquash]

Agree with most of this.

As we've all said before with the low block we struggle, so in some ways the 10 men wasn't much of a problem for Chelsea as it "allowed" them to play a system we hate.

Thought elliot was great but also taking spaces Salah might, and pushing mo wider. This needs solving. And as almost always, klopps efforts to remedy situations are too little too late...

Surely need to keep the pace up moving the ball in the final 3rd quickly and be patient against 10 men? We didn't do that.

Ali 7
Robbo 5
Trent 7
Matip 6
VVD 7
Hendo 6
Fabs 7
Elliot 7.5
Mo 7
Bobby 6
Mane 5

Klopp 5

 

[Markeh]

Thought elliot was great but also taking spaces Salah might, and pushing mo wider. This needs solving.

I’m glad someone else thought this, Elliott has been great but it feels like Mo is being stifled somewhat.

 

[KopRed]

Our right side was really weird.

Mo and Elliot were constantly the widest player out there, with Trent tucking inside in central mid. Both kept cutting in closing off more space instead of running down the line. Not sure if it is by design to put some variety to our play but it didn't work.

 

[Grjt2]

Our right side was really weird.

Mo and Elliot were constantly the widest player out there, with Trent tucking inside in central mid. Both kept cutting in closing off more space instead of running down the line. Not sure if it is by design to put some variety to our play but it didn't work.

There’s a strong argument for having Henderson on the right of midfield for exactly that reason - when TAA pushes inside Henderson can stay in the channel and deliver crosses (he also does a lot of running for Mo and covers Trents defensive frailties)

 

[MomoWASright]

I’d rather not see Henderson cross the ball ever again.

 

[Modo]

Ali 7
Robbo 5
Trent 7
Matip 6
VVD 7
Hendo 5
Fabs 7
Elliot 6
Mo 7
Bobby 5
Mane 5

Klopp 5

 

[Fabio]

I thought trent was shite. Helped mo and Elliott but his crossing was shite, his corners were worse.

Robbo wasn't fit for a match if this tempo. Kostas should have started

Mane and hendo were shite.

Harv was brilliant. Fab was standard fab performance

Jota was completely isolated because he was marked to fuck.

Joel and virg were great.

 

[Halmeister]

Alisson - 6 (not much to do. No chance for the goal)
Trent - 6 (not good by his standards)
Van Dijk - 8 (bullied the flat track bully)
Matip - 7 (good, but sloppy with the ball)
Robbo - 6 (poor, but worked hard)
Fabinho - 7 (good game)
Hendo - 6 (not great. Should've scored)
Elliott- 7 (decent. Could maybe take a few more risks)
Salah - 7 (well taken penalty. Seemed to be too far wide to offer much else of a threat)
Firmino - 6 (okay before the injury)
Mane - 5 (Christ, he seemed to lose it every time he got the ball)

Jota - 6 (came on and instantly looked a threat... then did nothing)
Thiago - meh
Greek - meh

 

[Modo]

I’d rather not see Henderson cross the ball ever again.

So you're saying that his floated crosses into the box are useless?

 

[tombrown]

This is what happens when you leave Naby lad on the bench

 

[Modo]

This is what happens when you leave Naby lad on the bench

If I could start the game over, I'd have Jota, Tsimikas, Thiago and Keita starting for Robbo, Hendo, Elliott and Firmino.

 

[Fabio]

If I could start the game over, I'd have Jota, Tsimikas, Thiago and Keita starting for Robbo, Hendo, Elliott and Firmino.

I still would have started Elliott, but otherwise, yeah

 

[darkstarexodus]

Our right side was really weird.

Mo and Elliot were constantly the widest player out there, with Trent tucking inside in central mid. Both kept cutting in closing off more space instead of running down the line. Not sure if it is by design to put some variety to our play but it didn't work.

I noticed this in the Norwich and Burnley games too. Mo is taking much wider positions to let Trent attack into the half space further in.

Assuming it is to offer something different to what we've played the past 3 seasons but yet to see a real payoff from it.

 

[Modo]

Our right side was really weird.

Mo and Elliot were constantly the widest player out there, with Trent tucking inside in central mid. Both kept cutting in closing off more space instead of running down the line. Not sure if it is by design to put some variety to our play but it didn't work.

Quite evident to me that Elliott wasn't ready to play in this game.
He wasn't that bad, but he needs to trust himself more and not rely on Salah.
Too many situations where he could have crossed the ball or taken on a defender, but instead passed it to Salah or Trent.

 

[binomial]

Alisson - 7 nothing he could do with the goal, not much else to do.
Trent - 6 Pretty average, roasted by Mount when he almost made it 2.
Matip - 6.5 How the fuck did he miss that header, a yard out and he hits the crossbar.
Virgil 8 - Probably MOTM, didn't give Lukaku a sniff...always felt comfortable he could tidy up back there.
Robbo 6 - Poor, wouldn't have started with him just yet....that's on the manager.
Fab 6- Thought he was poor as well, lucky to not have been booked...mistimed a fair few tackles and didn't really stop Chelsea
having some counters 2nd half.
Hendo 5 - Not sure what his stats were like but thought he looked off all game.
Harvey 7.5 - Another very lively showing, a lot of touches, some very nice ones...few efforts in there too, confident lad.
Mo 7 - Did his job RE: the penalty but that right foot is a disgrace.
Mane 4 - So bad, so so bad.
Firmino 6.5 - Thought he did ok but never really got near the box.

Jota 5 - Did nothing.
Thiago 5 - Did nothing

 

[Modo]

Hendo 5 - Not sure what his stats were like but thought he looked off all game.

Had the lowest Sofascore match rating of any Liverpool starter, losing possession of the ball 13 times

 

[binomial]

Had the lowest Sofascore match rating of any Liverpool starter, losing possession of the ball 13 times

Going to be a long season if we don't sign someone in the next few days.

 

[Modo]

Going to be a long season if we don't sign someone in the next few days.

Yep.

 

[KopRed]

Mane was bad but he seems to always be up against 2 or 3 defenders. Robbo didn't push up enough or offer the energy we were used to seeing from him.

On the right we had Trent Mo Elliot, whereas on the left it was almost exclusively Mane against the whole bunch of them.

I agree with some posters here, we should have started with Tsimikas who might have offered more energy. Robbo didn't look fit enough.

 

[rurikbird]

I noticed this in the Norwich and Burnley games too. Mo is taking much wider positions to let Trent attack into the half space further in.

Assuming it is to offer something different to what we've played the past 3 seasons but yet to see a real payoff from it.

Mane’s goal vs Burnley was a product of Trent’s position far infield while Salah and Elliott were wide.

 

[darkstarexodus]

Mane’s goal vs Burnley was a product of Trent’s position far infield whole Salah and Elliott were wide.

That's true. Forgot about that one.