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Prediction time - Your top 6

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He had been manager of Holland for 2 years prior to the WC though.
Its not like he took over the Dutch team in May.


How much time do international managers get with their squads a year though, he's had a constant month now, would he even get that in a year with Dutch players? Plus he doesn't have to make do with players he can try to sign whoever suits.

Imo if he gets them playing well with their current squad then they could make the top 4. Good attacking players are hard to sign and he has those, if he can organise the rest they'll do alright.

Hope he fucks it up though.
 
Utd's best hope is their easy start. They could well build a bit of a lead over us the first two months if we're not careful.

On paper they're pretty weak though.
 
They do but I find it a bit weird that they suddenly will finish 3rd/4th with the signings they've made so far.
15 points behind 4th and 20 points behind us last season.
They're not the only team that has improved this summer.

If they sign 2-3 quality players they would be one of the favourites for 4th. Now, not so much imho.

Agree with this, the current squad isn't good enough to warrant being favourites for fourth.

I think the odds are factoring in a couple of additional signings before the window closes. If we don't get them the odds will reflect that.
 
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I think Chelsea will start the season very strongly and everybody will be convinced they will win it... until a few months into the season Roman suddenly cuts all ties with the club (I can't predict the exact reason, but the overall direction of events in Russia convinces me the flow of Russian money into European football will stop fairly soon). The board will be frantically searching for a buyer, but they will have a hard time finding anyone capable of sustaining anything close to the current level of spending in the club. Chelsea's strong season will be suddenly thrown into disarray and the turmoil will affect performances on the pitch as well. They will drop out of top 4 in the last few weeks of the season.

Man City
Liverpool
Arsenal
United
Spurs
Chelsea
 
Utds chances of reaching the top 4 are so insanely overrated by the media.
You'd think we lost Suarez and signed no one.
And then we've improved the first team and squad with 7 players so far.

It baffles me that everyone thinks LvG will just automatically turn them into a great team again.
Its obviously just a switch....
 
Utds chances of reaching the top 4 are so insanely overrated by the media.
You'd think we lost Suarez and signed no one.
And then we've improved the first team and squad with 7 players so far.

It baffles me that everyone thinks LvG will just automatically turn them into a great team again.
Its obviously just a switch....


One question, have we improved our strongest starting XI?
 
Seriously, which is better?



------------------Mignolet

Johnson---Skrtel-----Agger----Enrique

----------Gerrard-------Henderson
-----------------Coutinho
Sterling----------------------------Suarez
-----------------Sturridge



------------------Mignolet

Johnson---Skrtel-----Lovren----Moreno

----------Gerrard-------Can
-----------------Henderson
Sterling----------------------------Coutinho
-----------------Sturridge
 
We didnt play 4-3-3 to many times last season when Suarez and Sturridge were fit.

The team will be much more balanced this season imho.
Lovren and Moreno makes our defence soooo much better and we wont concede 50+ goals.
Losing Suarez is a massive blow but if we get in one more striker I dont think we'll miss him to much.

And dont compare a "first" eleven. The squad looks much much better and we actually have a bench compared to Cissokho, Moses and Aspas. You're having a laugh thinking otherwise.
 
We didnt play 4-3-3 to many times last season when Suarez and Sturridge were fit.

The team will be much more balanced this season imho.
Lovren and Moreno makes our defence soooo much better and we wont concede 50+ goals.
Losing Suarez is a massive blow but if we get in one more striker I dont think we'll miss him to much.

And dont compare a "first" eleven. The squad looks much much better and we actually have a bench compared to Cissokho, Moses and Aspas. You're having a laugh thinking otherwise.
So are you saying that we can field a better team today than last season with Suarez in it?
 
People give Rodgers way to little credit for our fantastic season last year aswell if they suddenly think we'll struggle just because Suarez has left.
 
Seriously, which is better?

------------------Mignolet

Johnson---Skrtel-----Agger----Enrique

----------Gerrard-------Henderson
-----------------Coutinho
Sterling----------------------------Suarez
-----------------Sturridge



------------------Mignolet

Johnson---Skrtel-----Lovren----Moreno

----------Gerrard-------Can
-----------------Henderson
Sterling----------------------------Coutinho
-----------------Sturridge


If we play 4-2-3-1, then I think Coutinho will be the one in the #10 spot, and Hendo on one of the wings.
 
Did I say that? Read it again.


Well that was my original question.

I know that we need another striker and that our squad is better, but no matter how many players we buy we can still only fit 11 players on the pitch.

We weren't in Europe last season which benefited us a whole lot. This time it's Man U's turn. Why won't they benefit from it?
 
I think we've potentially improved our defence at least as much as our attack has been weakened by the departure of Suarez.

In addition, players like Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, Henderson are another year on in development so by all accounts should be better players.

Add to that players of the ilk of Lallana, Markovic, Can (potentially) and the prospect yet of another striker - and we've improved overall alright.
 
So what's it going to be? This season looks like it'll be a dogfight between 6 clubs for the Champions League places - in a year when the TV money is about to double.

Will Utd make it 2 years in a row outside the top table?
Will we be able to continue our upward curve and challenge minus Suarez?
Will Chelsea bore us all to tears again?
etc?

I'm going for....

1. City
2. Liverpool (we'll challenge again)
3. Arsenal
4. Chelsea
5. Utd
6. Spurs

You?

I believe I did very well in this last season and got laughed at for predicting Utd outside the top 6.

This season will be much tougher to call

Chelsea
City
Liverpool
Utd
Arsenal
Spurs
Swansea
Newcastle
 
I think we will win it obviously - and I think a lot of that faith comes from the way Brendan will get the team to play.

Agree with Modo - I think he is being a little ... sly in that he is indicating what the fuck is the big different between last season and this - very little other than we have Lovren, and Cann the rest of the players who we are expecting to make a huge difference and win us games will be the same as last - at least for the first few games until our £50M worth of talent in Laz, and Lal have a start - and then we will be able to tell if if our summer spending has made a huge difference.

But we have to remind ourselves that we will have more games with the CL this season.
 
The media underestimation of us is unbelievable - and it will work in our favor by taking way a lot of pressure.

I went to an charity NBC event last night. All the NBC talking heads were there. And it was like Van Gaal was Fergie and we were stoke city. It's just a amazing to me who they think a dictator will turn it all around. World domination awaits them apparently... Here the article on it.

Premier League preview: NBC pundits predict Manchester United resurgence
Lowe, Mustoe and Earle pick Van Gaal to galvanise, Mourinho to take the title … and Arsenal to unearth ‘the new Tony Adams’

On Wednesday, three days before the start of a Premier League season eagerly awaited in the US as well as the UK, the Seattle Sounders right-back DeAndre Yedlin signed for Tottenham. On Wednesday evening, NBC’s soccer pundits, preparing for a second season covering England’s top flight after a very successful first, dealt what might be seen – admittedly, with a large dose of salt – to be a sobering blow to his hopes of immediate glory.

At the Captain’s Knock in midtown Manhattan, Robbie Earl, Robbie Mustoe and presenter Rebecca Lowe – and a special guest, the former Manchester United striker Dion Dublin – gave their predictions for the season to come. None of them picked Spurs to crack the top four.

Title winners & top four

Robbie Mustoe: I have to consider Manchester United’s revival. We’ve watched them in pre-season and it was super-impressive – super-intense. Louis van Gaal has changed the system a little bit. I think they’ll be back in the top four. Then you think, who’s going to drop out from last season, and I think it’s going to be a difficult season for Liverpool. We all know about losing Luís Suarez to Barcelona and trying to replace those goals; they have a lot of new young players who will be good, but maybe not this season. So, let me get to it: fourth, Manchester United; third, Manchester City; second, Arsenal; first, Chelsea.

Robbie Earle: It’s a very important season for Chelsea. Last season, José Mourinho didn’t have the players he wanted. No excuses this year, the Special One. He called Arsène Wenger a “specialist in failure” – I think it’s two years now he hasn’t won a trophy himself. With the players he’s got, I’m going to go for Chelsea to win the league, followed by City. I think it might be difficult for them to go back to back and win it again, and I also think Champions League is now on the horizon. In third place, Liverpool. I have a lot of belief in Brendan Rogers, he’s got some good young players, he’s an inventive, evolving coach. And my fourth spot goes to United. Van Gaal is a game-changer. There was a time last season when in that tunnel, teams didn’t fear United. I think Van Gaal will change that.

In saying that, I’m going against all my principles and my love of Wenger – I think Arsenal are out of the top four. They lost the title through not replacing Johan Djourou and not having a centre-midfield player to drive and win a game. This summer they haven’t done any of that business they needed to do, as well as they played in the Community Shield.

Rebecca Lowe: I don’t ever get to give my opinion, so this is exciting. I’m going to go Arsenal fourth, because they need another striker; third, City, because I think they might focus on the Champions League. I’m going to go Chelsea second, and I think it may be the tightest title race ever. In first place… I’m going to go United. After the era I grew up in, it’s weird not to have them as favourites. And you can go from seventh to first – Liverpool almost did it last year. I think Van Gaal is a game-changer and I think Wayne Rooney will relish the captaincy, and I think they’ll buy at least one big name before the end of the transfer window. You heard it here first.

Dion Dublin: Van Gaal will bring back that fear, of having to perform in a Manchester United shirt. I think some people have come in recently and thought their shirt was safe. And it should never be. I think [former manager] David Moyes took the heart out of United – he tried his very best but when you take the engine out of a car you can’t run it. I think that drive will come back. So I think it’s United top, City second, Chelsea third and Arsenal fourth.

Best new signing

RM: Ander Herrera – a central-midfield player, talented, a playmaker, intelligent – is a player we should all watch at United and enjoy this season. It’s something United have missed, having lost Paul Scholes. Someone who can play passes and see things and open things up. Herrera can do that. You’re going to enjoy his creativity and his craft.

RE: My signing of the season is Diego Costa at Chelsea, and that’s because if you go back to when Mourinho’s sides won titles at Chelsea, they did play football and entertain, yes, but when they didn’t or couldn’t do that they beat you with power and strength and intensity. They haven’t done that with the likes of [Fernando] Torres or [Demba] Ba, who weren’t good enough strikers to play that role. They now have a guy with 27 goals in la Liga, a big physical presence who will enjoy the Premier League.



RL: I’m going to go for Calum Chambers, who Wenger has just brought to Arsenal from Southampton for a lot of money – £16m for a 19-year-old. He’s versatile, he plays centre-back and full-back, he’s a leader, he’s what Arsenal have needed. Yes he’s young, but I have a feeling we might be seeing the new Tony Adams. It’s a big shout. Again, you heard it here first. I think he’ll force his way in – Laurent Koscielny gets injured a lot, Per Mertesacker needs a rest after the World Cup. He could be the star of the season.
 
The not being in Europe thing made a particular difference to us last year because our squad was so thin. We wouldn't have coped with the games last year. But Utd don't have that problem, and they didn't last year, so therefore people shouldn't expect such a dramatic improvement from them.

I'd say the quality added to the squad should more or less take care of the burden of CL games. Then it's a matter of how the 'first XI' has been affected by the summer's dealings. Personally I think it's a little weaker but not by a huge amount. Suarez going is a huge blow. Not having to accommodate two strikers is a small benefit IMO, as I always felt the side was slightly unbalanced in a lot of games last season, Sterling being transformed from the player he was a year ago is a very big plus, as is Coutinho's continued progress. Another plus is the organisation Lovren will bring to the defence, and the boost to the attack from full back.

So it's clear that there are plenty of rational reasons to hope that we can maintain a level close to last season.
 
What's all this play Henderson on the wing shit?

I've seen a couple people mention it over the last week and it just seems to go unchallenged. It's just about the worst idea I've heard all summer.

He played what looked like a RAM/W to use FIFA speak against Dortmund. I think the truth is he was a RCM and he looked almost like a right midfielder because of our attacking dominance and his incredible work rate. It almost baffles the mind to think he is that far along in his development that he was able to look good enough in a game there to make people think he can play a position that almost destroyed his Liverpool career. He seems confident enough now to do deputize on the wing either as an attacker or a wingback, but nor permanently. However, I want him in the middle, making attacking runs beyond our 3 forwards and scoring goals. Long may he get to celebrate.
 
What's all this play Henderson on the wing shit?

I've seen a couple people mention it over the last week and it just seems to go unchallenged. It's just about the worst idea I've heard all summer.

I wouldn't say he starts wide right in the same way Sterling starts wide left, but as we saw in the Dortmund game, he pushed out to help wide right when we attacked Dortmund with Manquillo. That team was set up interesting as we had Gerrard, Can and Coutinho occupying the centre of the pitch and Sterling on wide left with licence to drift in. Henderson hustled in the middle, but when we pushed forward, he also went wide as well. Not that he starts as a wide right per se.
 
I love that the media is writing us off enmasse. There is no better motivating factor for us to achieve.
 
I wouldn't say he starts wide right in the same way Sterling starts wide left, but as we saw in the Dortmund game, he pushed out to help wide right when we attacked Dortmund with Manquillo. That team was set up interesting as we had Gerrard, Can and Coutinho occupying the centre of the pitch and Sterling on wide left with licence to drift in. Henderson hustled in the middle, but when we pushed forward, he also went wide as well. Not that he starts as a wide right per se.


Coming out wide / forward from the middle is all good. It's what you expect him to do. I'm also not talking about him playing as the right midfielder in a diamond.
 
Jeff Stelling

Champions: Chelsea
Top four: Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool
Relegated: Anybody outside the top eight!!
Surprise team: QPR
Top scorer: Diego Costa
Best signing: Adam Lallana / Robert Snodgrass
Player to watch: As above!
Young gun: Calum Chambers
 
This cunt hates us anyway !

Matt Le Tissier

Champions: Man City
Top four: Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal
Relegated: Burnley, Leicester, Aston Villa

Surprise team: QPR
Best signing: Alexis Sanchez
Top scorer: Sergio Aguero
Player to watch: Bojan
Young gun: Calum Chambers
 
Didn't bother with Merson or Nicholas because they are both anal.

Phil Thompson

Champions: Chelsea
Top four: Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal
Relegated: Leicester, Burnley, QPR

Surprise team: There’ll be no surprises!
Best signing: Romelu Lukaku
Top scorer: Sergio Aguero
Player to watch: Didier Drogba
Young gun: Romelu Lukaku
 
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