Preferred front 3

[KopRed]

It's not looking good for Elliott; ditto for Fabio. We are not sure how to use them and we seemed to just plug them in anywhere we need rotating in. When the front 5 is back Elliott will not get a sniff. And he can't play midfield because he doesn't have a defensive side.

We have a spot in midfield where the player generally gets into the box more and doesn't do that much defending but he's not good enough to play it permanently. I reckon Jota/Gakpo might take a spot in that 8-10 position where 4 forwards will play. Klopp has done it before. If Elliott is happy to be rotated all over then that will be his role in the team.

I don't think he's ever going to be good enough to start for us. It will be a case of Ox/Keita all over again. We try and try but they will never step up consistently.

 

[Woland]

I don't think Foden is rapid. Normally everything is more of a slow methodical build up with city.

He struggled against Milner at RB last season. You're right, he isn't quick.

 

[Woland]

It's not looking good for Elliott; ditto for Fabio. We are not sure how to use them and we seemed to just plug them in anywhere we need rotating in. When the front 5 is back Elliott will not get a sniff. And he can't play midfield because he doesn't have a defensive side.

We have a spot in midfield where the player generally gets into the box more and doesn't do that much defending but he's not good enough to play it permanently. I reckon Jota/Gakpo might take a spot in that 8-10 position where 4 forwards will play. Klopp has done it before. If Elliott is happy to be rotated all over then that will be his role in the team.

I don't think he's ever going to be good enough to start for us. It will be a case of Ox/Keita all over again. We try and try but they will never step up consistently.

I broadly agree with most of what you say but comparing him to them pair of utter shite hawks is quite the insult. He's already a far better player than either of them, albeit not quite right for us at the moment.

 

[peekay]

It's not looking good for Elliott; ditto for Fabio. We are not sure how to use them and we seemed to just plug them in anywhere we need rotating in. When the front 5 is back Elliott will not get a sniff. And he can't play midfield because he doesn't have a defensive side.

We have a spot in midfield where the player generally gets into the box more and doesn't do that much defending but he's not good enough to play it permanently. I reckon Jota/Gakpo might take a spot in that 8-10 position where 4 forwards will play. Klopp has done it before. If Elliott is happy to be rotated all over then that will be his role in the team.

I don't think he's ever going to be good enough to start for us. It will be a case of Ox/Keita all over again. We try and try but they will never step up consistently.

He is way more useful to us than Ox/Keita. I think a lot of criticisms of Elliott are coming from the fact that folks are unable to see a clear position for him in the first team which I broadly agree. He does not have the pace to claim a starting position upfront and his lack of pace and physicality means he will not be first choice in midfield also. He is technically solid but not Coutinho or Silva level great.

But at the same time, he will be a very useful squad member to have around. He has a great attitude, can fill in a number of positions. If the rest of the team is purring, he can come in and complement them and use the pace and movement around him.

He is only 19 and players tend to develop nonlinearly. Maybe he can sharpen his finishing and become a very useful goal scoring attacking midfielder. While I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team, he is definitely worth investing the time.

 

[KopRed]

I broadly agree with most of what you say but comparing him to them pair of utter shite hawks is quite the insult. He's already a far better player than either of them, albeit not quite right for us at the moment.

I am not comparing them in terms of talent or endeavour or even their actual contribution but rather the usage of the player. Ox was shuffled everywhere after his CL injury, front 3, midfield, in and out of the team.. Eventually his contract runs out and it was much ado about nothing. I don't wish to see Elliott managed the same way is all I'm saying. Based on evidence so far he is going down the same trajectory.

He is young, he has the talent and the heart, i hope he does well. But if we are not going to use him properly we might as well move him on and bring in more of a specialist.

 

[Frogfish]

... He is only 19 and players tend to develop nonlinearly. Maybe he can sharpen his finishing and become a very useful goal scoring attacking midfielder. While I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team, he is definitely worth investing the time.

But that is really the issue. Why is he worth the time and effort if he doesn't have the attributes that a player under Klopp, and in the positions he is competing for, must have? You don't suddenly acquire pace, he isn't going to get anywhere near the front three and Klopp has just bought Gakpo (and has Jota) who already looks a far more flexible and accomplished player (at AM, CF and LW), and that's to say nothing of the new midfielders that WILL be arriving.

Also persisting with Elliott would mean less opportunities for the likes of Doak, Gordon and Carvalho. It doesn't matter how much he loves LFC or what a nice lad he is, I don't see a place for him, not even in the squad or on the bench, after next Summer.

 

[Hyena]

If we don't even have time for Harvey Elliott what's the point of Doak, Gordon and Carvalho?

 

[Frogfish]

If we don't even have time for Harvey Elliott what's the point of Doak, Gordon and Carvalho?

They all have the requisite skills to play in positions where there could be opportunities. That may be dubious as far as Carvalho goes but Doak and Gordon would get opportunities at RW/RM.

 

[Hansern]

I'm starting to have doubts about Gordon in all honesty. He has been out for almost a year and lost a lot of football.

 

[MomoWASright]

Gordon’s alive?

 

[binomial]

I'm starting to have doubts about Gordon in all honesty. He has been out for almost a year and lost a lot of football.

Headed down same route as Rhian.

Always a shame when a young kid picks up what feels like a career threatening injury...…guarentee this only happens to us.

 

[binomial]

Gordon’s alive?

Gordon Brown - Yes
Gordon Ramsey - Yes + bring back hells kitchen.
Gordon Strachan - Sadly so (No I'm jk you're a good man Gordy)
Gordon Banks - Sadly not

 

[Fabio]

Gordon’s alive?

had to

 

[rubans]

No offfense but some of the front 3 on this thread are utter shite.
We would never qualify for top 4 again…

 

[Stevesquash]

Gakpo, Nunez, Salah

 

[mom]

Like i said,

Salah
Gakpo
Nunez

 

[darkstarexodus]

It's got to be today's three until further notice.

 

[King Binny]

Jota and Diaz as options on the bench 😎 Now, go and rebuild the midfield please

 

[King Binny]

 

[binomial]

As well as Gakpo has done for me it's still Diaz Nunez Salah.

Diaz has that explosiveness I love to see, dynamite legs catch me if ya can type player.....but people quickly forget the not too distant pace and are quick to replace with the now which is understandable but I don't forget how good Diaz was for us before that injury.

 

[mom]

Every goal was bliss against that lot, but my god the third goal.
Gakpo took it well, shielded the ball while making rapid progress to play a lovely ball for Salah. Salah then makes a laughing stock out of their defence, in the process putting one of them on his arse, to then play an inch perfect pass onto the clearly rapid Gakpo, who after belting up the length of the pitch pulls out a world class deft finish.

world class goal. I’ve watched it so many times and it’s just beautiful.

 

[localny]

As well as Gakpo has done for me it's still Diaz Nunez Salah.

Diaz has that explosiveness I love to see, dynamite legs catch me if ya can type player.....but people quickly forget the not too distant pace and are quick to replace with the now which is understandable but I don't forget how good Diaz was for us before that injury.

Now it's my turn to be critical. He looks amazing. I just am seeing more end product and goal involvement consistently from Gapko right now. I feel like Diaz mazy runs often ended in nought.

 

[binomial]

Now it's my turn to be critical. He looks amazing. I just am seeing more end product and goal involvement consistently from Gapko right now. I feel like Diaz mazy runs often ended in nought.

 

[ibromurph]

Gakpo looks like he's got some ability. What we hoped Origi would be before his injury. The swag of that 3rd goal has me believing now he's gonna be our new Firmino. Beautiful, beautiful finish.

Darwin the jury is still out on. I actually thought he was pretty average throughout.

My preferred front 3 has to be:

Jota Gakpo Mo

Diaz first sub.
Darwin 2nd sub.

In terms of proven goalscorers. Mo is number 1. Jota number 2. Gakpo is the best false 9.

 

[Tinto]

Diaz, Cody, Mo

 

[Fabio]

Every cunt discounting my boy Darwin. Gang of Sir Richard Owens and Adam Sedgwicks the lot of ya

 

[StevieM]

Has to be Nunez, Gakpo & Mo - it’s important to keep them together so that they can get more used to playing together.

Up to the others to fight their way back into contention - I fancy Nunez is the most in danger of being relegated to the bench, but he’s starting to find his feet in the role and we’ve no idea what sort of shape Diaz will be in on his return.

Jota looks like he’ll need a while to get his sharpness back, but he’s handy to have on the bench.

 

[binomial]

Fuck it scrap this title, Ive had enough.

Its settled, front 4. No more debate to be had.

Salah Gakpo Diaz
Nunez

Now lock thread and throw away the key.

 

[StevieM]

Fuck it scrap this title, Ive had enough.

Its settled, front 4. No more debate to be had.

Salah Gakpo Diaz
Nunez

Now lock thread and throw away the key.

We don’t play with a front 4 very often - it’s more like a “break glass in case of emergency” attacking setup.

 

[rurikbird]

It's very early days, but so far Gakpo seems like he has potential to be a more "fundamental" player in our attack; someone whose qualities in the build-up will be invaluable even in games where he doesn't score or assist. Nunez and Jota by contrast are more valuable for their direct contributions in attack, but it's harder to build the game around them. Seems like Gakpo's progression and integration will be key to making our attack a cohesive unit. It's also remains to be seen how consistent he can be with pressing and defensive side of the game – something you have to do if you want to be Firmino's heir – and I also want to see more evidence of his vision and ability to create chances for teammates. But the early signs are promising...