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Sunlit Uplands

It'll take actual effort to untangle Brexit financial misery from covid financial misery

Im sure a team of grads are currently working away in a war room with Cummings to further entangle the two
 
Can’t think of anything more deserving then people of Kent to face upto their own version Biblical plague of the consequences of voting.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer home county, well maybe Essex...
 



A - Soya Sauce was defo the defining argument for Brexit
B- I thought WTO was going to be super amazing and better than any deals we had already.
 
Just what I look for when toddling round sainsburys. How much soya sauce costs. I can’t wait for it to be 8p cheaper.
 



A - Soya Sauce was defo the defining argument for Brexit
B- I thought WTO was going to be super amazing and better than any deals we had already.


That's so cringeworthy that whoever manages their Twitter account must have had to look away whilst pressing post.
 
Or maybe they really really believe it and think they have the bestest job ever.

Why would anyone think default WTO terms could possibly be better than actual trade agreements?

You'd never sign one if it wasn't at least a bit better than the default.

I'm genuinely curious to know if anyone actually said that!
 
I can't recall anyone saying that being on WTO terms with everyone would be a great thing.

What I am sure some people believe is that LEAVING the EU on WTO terms is nothing to fear, but this is assuming that we can establish trade deals with other countries and with the EU itself. Free trade by definition is preferable to WTO terms.

Whether this is possible or probable is a matter of opinion.

In terms of that tweet, it was clearly stupid and meant to be lighthearted. Understandably, people aren't generally in the mood to be lighthearted about Brexit!
 
This morning the legal case between Arron Banks and the journalist Carole Cadwalladr was due to start. The case came about because of Cadwalladr’s claim that Arron Banks – who was a founder of the Leave.EU campaign (the non-official Leave campaign) – was offered money by the Russians. Cadwalladr has been going around for years making these and other unfounded accusations in every forum and on every platform she can manage. It is not as though her campaign has been obscure. The Observer newspaper has supported her, and as her entirely unsubstantiated claims grew, she was shamefully awarded the Orwell Prize for journalism.

Although she claimed to see Russian agents everywhere it was finally Banks who decided to sue Cadwalladr. She crowdfunded – posing as the underdog truth-teller against the big rich Russian agent – and then last night (having rinsed her supporters for cash till the last minute) she pulled out of the hearing. As Guido reports here she conceded that she had no evidence and could not go ahead with the case. She is now reportedly forced to pay a first down-payment of £62,000 in costs, with more to come.


Perhaps it is necessary to say at this point that I have never met either Banks or Cadwalladr and have no special love for either of them. But what has just happened is something that should cause a certain ripple of consequences.

Firstly, it should be noted that the campaign of defamation which Cadwalladr has engaged in over recent years has been poisonous. I have read many of her unsourced, unsubstantiated claims with amazement that they were ever published. For years she has pumped these claims about Russian agents and Russian money throughout our body politic. In the process she has not only attacked individuals, but every member of the British public who voted for Brexit in 2016.

Cadwalladr and her financial backers have for years pretended that the British public were misled into voting for Brexit. Instead of listening to the genuine concerns of their fellow citizens they engaged in a smear-campaign against us. They pretended there were not serious reasons to vote the way we did, but only vacuous, stupid people, led down the wrong road by agents of a foreign power. It was an outrageous claim, outrageously encouraged and tolerated by Cadwalladr’s colleagues and peers because she seemed to be confirming their own bigotries and prejudices.

She and her friends pumped poisonous toxins into post-2016 Britain, from a position of considerable privilege and with some serious financial backing of their own. Now, when Cadwalladr has to stand up just one of her claims in court it turns out – as some of us guessed all along – that she cannot. She never had the evidence to justify her attacks on Banks or the British public.

A decade ago Cadwalladr’s predecessor Johann Hari was forced to hand back the Orwell Prize for journalism after being found to be dishonest in his reporting. Perhaps this year Cadwalladr could do the decent thing and voluntarily hand back her award as well. Her behaviour has in fact been far more damaging to this country and the journalistic trade than Hari’s ever was. It is one thing if a newspaper wants to continue to publish the unsubstantiated claims of a conspiracy theorist. It is quite another that a distinguished award for journalism should continue to encourage such behaviour
 
I just had to google who she is and in doing so found an article that stated Banks has previously had to drop a large portion of his suit against her. Is that the case?
 
I just had to google who she is and in doing so found an article that stated Banks has previously had to drop a large portion of his suit against her. Is that the case?

It’s ok Keni - Russia are pretty much the only major superpower in the world who don’t try to influence elections in other countries to suit their needs.

It’s not as if isolating the UK or weakening the EU would ever cross the minds of those friendly and honest folk at the Kremlin.

No corruption in Russia... not at all.
 
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