I'm gonna give this some love as you've worked hard on this and it's a shame to piss it all away.
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I'm gonna give this some love as you've worked hard on this and it's a shame to piss it all away.
There's nothing pissy about those 5 lads, they rock
He has been excellant last two games. Early days to hail him as either a bad or good signing.
Let's see how he is looking after 15-20 games.
Definitely a promising improvement after a couple of poor run outs after coming back from injury.
Let's see how he is looking after 15-20 games.
Definitely a promising improvement after a couple of poor run outs after coming back from injury.
What dya reckon is Lallana's best position?
I don't think being white or English had/has anything to do with it.
I think he just saw the acquisition of Lallana as being symbolic of LFC not showing the right kind of ambition in the transfer market. He saw Lallana as a good player from a mid-table side coming in as our "marquee" summer signing and felt totally underwhelmed by it.
Modo may be a cocksmoker who is wrong about just how good Lallana can be for us - but his overall sentiment about the transfer window was sort of correct.
I'm with Lucas on this. Modo's view, repeated beyond the point of insanity, was (a) that Lallana was overrated and (b) that this was mainly because he was English.
What run of games? I thought he was very good against Boro, Everton, Basle (when he came on) and West Brom. You could argue he was our brightest player in all three full games.
And Modo's sentiment was based on the fact he was English, course it was. White English player for near £20m, ergo he's the new Stewart Downing. It had nothing to do with what he felt about how overrated and overpriced he was.
He did the same with Downing, in the initial thread, he said he thought he was a good player but totally overpriced. He then opted to pull the same thread up a few months ago to sneer at people who had the same opinion at the time, forgetting that he too had posted pretty much the same sentiment. So yeah, he ended up looking like a dick.
He then spent every England & Liverpool game that Lallana figured in, calling him shite and picking up on every loose ball/chance that didn't go his way, calling everyone thick, blah blah. This, after posting in the initial Lallana thread that he "thought he was a good player but completely overpriced". You see the trend, right?
So no, it wasn't just a case of Modo (fairly) thinking he was " a good player from a mid-table side coming in as our "marquee" summer signing, that he felt totally underwhelmed by". Given he spent every subsequent moment he on the pitch calling him "shite" and the most "overrated player we have".
You have to wonder whether he was getting more joy from watching a player he slagged off, fail. Or from watching us win, there seemed to be a very fine line.
He did the same with Downing, in the initial thread, he said he thought he was a good player but totally overpriced. He then opted to pull the same thread up a few months ago to sneer at people who had the same opinion at the time, forgetting that he too had posted pretty much the same sentiment. So yeah, he ended up looking like a dick.
He then spent every England & Liverpool game that Lallana figured in, calling him shite and picking up on every loose ball/chance that didn't go his way, calling everyone thick, blah blah. This, after posting in the initial Lallana thread that he "thought he was a good player but completely overpriced". You see the trend, right?
So no, it wasn't just a case of Modo (fairly) thinking he was " a good player from a mid-table side coming in as our "marquee" summer signing, that he felt totally underwhelmed by". Given he spent every subsequent moment he on the pitch calling him "shite" and the most "overrated player we have".
You have to wonder whether he was getting more joy from watching a player he slagged off, fail. Or from watching us win, there seemed to be a very fine line.
Looking at Lallana in his first few games for us he has been better than I could have hoped. He looks to have settled in very well, has great feet and energy and it's not taken him long to get off the mark. Him and Henderson in midfield could be special in future, some more mobility ahead of them (Sturridge and Sterling) and I think we'll improve quickly.
More mobility behind them wouldn't go amiss either!
A bit too much mobility for my liking Mark, some sort of control and organization needed ahead of raw energy and recklessness. It'll come with game time together.
Lallana's ability has always been there, but I don't remember seeing him doing so much sheer running for Southampton. On the contrary, when we bought him some Southampton fans were quoted on here and in the media saying he was a 70-minute player, or words to that effect. If he's developing (or revealing) a good engine to go with his skill, we really have got ourselves a player here.
Yeah, I thought that after typing, I mean in terms of the DM covering ground. And at the back we could really do with someone who reads the game and puts their foot on the ball, controlling things and composing the play, without having to be rash and last ditch all the time.
The notion of him being a 70 minute player could stem from how much running and covering he does during a game, there's not many players like Henderson how can just keep going and going.
I haven't lost hope that Lovren can become that player. He gets more sympathy from me than the others do, because our defensive problems mean he's been saddled with a wider responsibility for those around him than really ought to be expected from a newcomer.
Yeah agreed, like I said in the Agger/Lovren thread, I think it's more an issue of how we're set up, he could be that player, but we have to set up the right way and stop leaving players so open and isolated.
It's like badly interpreting art
Yeah but Modo IS a fool. I can't take him anyway seriously after his tragic posts in the Boro thread, where he admitted to having a go at Lallana because people were slagging Lucas. WTF. That's something a child would do.
Also why decide to make Lallana your figure of hate when he was clearly an excellent player? Yeah, over priced but a brilliant footballer regardless.
I think Modo was just trying to create some notoriety for himself. It's dead weird. He seemed to jump on Ryan's bandwagon anyway. The Lucas love in and then the Welbeck admiration.
Also why decide to make Lallana your figure of hate when he was clearly an excellent player? Yeah, over priced but a brilliant footballer regardless.
I think Modo was just trying to create some notoriety for himself. It's dead weird. He seemed to jump on Ryan's bandwagon anyway. The Lucas love in and then the Welbeck admiration.
I was gonna say... the guy isn't even posting right now and somehow he's still managed to take over a thread.
Sort it out folks.
I've avoided posting on the subject for this exact reason, we should be talking about how great Lallana has been, not why Modo doesn't like him. So, i'll attempt to abruptly bring this thread back on topic with this lovely video.
I think it was Oncy who originally said, "Who cares what Modo thinks?" Oncy nailed it with that one sentence.
Since when is Modo's opinion on the matter (or any matter) important, valuable or worth listening to?
You are spot on though. Lallana deserves a lot of praise. He is brilliant.
It was the Modo effect. Constantly sniping with snide and disparaging comments until some posters fell silent or doubted themselves. Some of us told Modo where to get the fuck off.
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