Time to dream?

[Y1]

I nick this off (pliagirise) a gooner's site and changed some ...

It might be time to look in the bright side.

It might be time to consider how much weaker the opposition could be next season

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

I don't care who Sir Alex buys, no player, no pair of players can give them what Cristiano gave them.

At his best he was a one-man army, a super-gladiator who scored 42 goals in 2007-2008 when they won the title and the Champions League in Moscow.Then they won the title again but lost the CL final 2-0 to Barcelona.

Cristiano regarded that as a wasted season in his career. He spent the year perfecting his free-kicks.

With Cristiano gone, the two best players in the EPL are Andrey Arshavin and Fernando Torres.

Arshavin is a better player than Rooney, Lampard or Gerrard. When Liverpool played Arsenal on Tuesday, April 21, Torres scored two goals and Arshavin scored four and it finished 4-4.

If Liverpool keep Mascherano and Xabi Alonso, I fancy them for the title. But in the crazy circus that is the Premier League, anything can happen in the next six weeks.

How weak will the opposition be this time?

ASTON VILLA ? Well, Martin O’Neill is over-rated and Villa have declined since skipper Martin Laursen suffered that knee injury. The big Dane was half the team. He is 31 and has retired. And Gareth Barry has been sold to Man City.

CHELSEA have terrific team spirit but the trophy they want is the Champions League. New boss Carlo Ancelotti might struggle and Guus Hiddink could return after the World Cup. This could be an interim season for the old men at Stamford Bridge Blues.

EVERTON are grafters and will remain hard to beat.

MAN CITY have wonderful pace from midfield and Stephen Ireland is much fun to watch as anybody in the EPL. If Roque Santa Cruz plays 35 games he might score 20 goals. City want to get into the Champions League but Champions League players don't want to join them until they qualify. They really crave 4th place but big spending doesn't mean they will threaten Arsenal in 2009-2010.

So that's the good news : Manchester United declined last season and have sold the best player in the world. Liverpool went close but may not sustain it, and Chelsea are trying their fourth manager since sacking Jose Mourinho.

Arsenal might do OK as long as Wenger builds round Arshavin and makes sure we all know he is the main man. If he had the right players, he could build round Arshavin as cleverly as he built round Bergkamp in 1997-98. But he can't afford the right players.

This will be a very, very big season

Wenger's already said it's a decisive season. If Arsenal win nothing, Arshavin and Fabregas will leave.

I think this is also a Very Big Season for us. If we don't win the EPL or CL-- Rafa, Torres might leave.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Arshavin is that good, eh?

Yah, this guy is a loon.

 

[Y1]

[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=34691.msg904853#msg904853 date=1247474427]
Arshavin is that good, eh?

Yah, this guy is a loon.
[/quote]

Who is the loon? Arshavin or Palmer?

 

[doctor_mac]

Yeah, Arsharvin outscored Torres at Anfield 4-2, therefore he is twice the player. Clever.

 

[dee]

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=34691.msg904857#msg904857 date=1247475089]
Yeah, Arsharvin outscored Torres at Anfield 4-2, therefore he is twice the player. Clever.
[/quote]

I do think that this is Arseshavings last chance to show the world he is as good as his PR.

 

[Y1]

If we have Arshavin with Torres and Gerrard, wow.

 

[Hansern]

As soon as I read the bit abou Arseshavin being Gerrard, Rooney and Lampards equal, I gave up.

Fuck off, it had to be a gooner.

 

[spider-Neil]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).

 

[Y1]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.

 

[Y1]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904869#msg904869 date=1247476441]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.
[/quote]

So it actually took Man U 2 years to rebuild. We can dream a little for the time being...

 

[spider-Neil]

manu will be there or there abouts, they always are regardless.

 

[Rouge Penguin]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904869#msg904869 date=1247476441]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.
[/quote]

Better than losing the Prem twice?

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Rouge Penguin link=topic=34691.msg904888#msg904888 date=1247477513]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904869#msg904869 date=1247476441]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.
[/quote]

Better than losing the Prem twice?
[/quote]

had manu managed to win the league whilst RVN was there? genuine question.

 

[Rouge Penguin]

Horsefacecunt has a shiney 2002-03 winners medal that says he did.

 

[ILD]

Which is it so? A United supporting friend informed me that they won the league the year after RVN left?

 

[The Slugmonster]

[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904863#msg904863 date=1247475820]
If we have Arshavin with Torres and Gerrard, wow.
[/quote]

I would've loved to have gotten him......we'd have a better front 3 than Barcelona.

On the actual topic...reading that gonners article, with every word read I feel like it was written by a 5 year old retard!

 

[Mystic]

MAN CITY have wonderful pace from midfield and Stephen Ireland is much fun to watch as anybody in the EPL.

I'm dyslexic and i could form a sentence better than this tard. What a fruit loop.

 

[The Slugmonster]

[quote author=Mystic link=topic=34691.msg905051#msg905051 date=1247498029]

MAN CITY have wonderful pace from midfield and Stephen Ireland is much fun to watch as anybody in the EPL.

I'm dyslexic and i could form a sentence better than this tard. What a fruit loop.
[/quote]

But Stephen Ireland is much fun to watch as anybody in the EPL 😛 😛

 

[HC]

To be fair, the author probably isn't English as he's calling the Premierleague the EPL.

 

[Frogfish]

Why is everyone focusing on his grammatical errors instead of the gist of his text ?

Does it matter if he can spell, or if he's English, Irish, Basque or Barbadian ?

Basically what he's saying is the EPL will be up for grabs this year. I doubt United will finish 12 points worse off than last season, but even 4 or 5 points less could be enough for us or Chelsea. Arsenal will IMO be close but not close enough to really challenge. That said until the transfer window closes it is going to almost impossible to guess what the lineups are going to be and who deserves the favourites tag. He is right about one thing though - keep Xabi & Masher and we could well win it.

 

[Foxwold]

Arshavin was shit in that game apart from his 4 goals.... As ridiculous as that sounds. He is a good player but i wouldn't put him in the top 5 epl players.

 

[The Slugmonster]

[quote author=Foxwold link=topic=34691.msg905117#msg905117 date=1247506542]
Arshavin was shit in that game apart from his 4 goals.... As ridiculous as that sounds. He is a good player but i wouldn't put him in the top 5 epl players.
[/quote]

Ridiculous.....he has the ability to change any game he plays in......even if quiet for 89 minutes. He's a great player......him, torres and gerrard up top for us would be unbelievable. We'd never get beaten 😛

 

[Foxwold]

Not just quiet, shit. He was having a really bad game.... Bar the four goals.

I guess you didn't read the bit where i said i thought he was a good player then? You moron. So I assume that you do think he is in the top 5 players in the epl then? Ridiculous.

 

[ILD]

[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904873#msg904873 date=1247476552]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904869#msg904869 date=1247476441]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.
[/quote]

So it actually took Man U 2 years to rebuild. We can dream a little for the time being...
[/quote]

RVN was sold in 2006 no? United won the league the year after he was sold.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

EPL my arse.

The're lucky enough I'm calling it the Premier League. The Champions League don't have that honour. European Cup it is.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=ILD link=topic=34691.msg905195#msg905195 date=1247513158]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904873#msg904873 date=1247476552]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904869#msg904869 date=1247476441]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.
[/quote]

So it actually took Man U 2 years to rebuild. We can dream a little for the time being...
[/quote]

RVN was sold in 2006 no? United won the league the year after he was sold.
[/quote]

oh thank goodness I thought I was going mad. well, 'more' mad 😉

 

[Farkmaster]

We had a window of opportunity last year, because of the fact that other teams really weren't at the standards set in years past. If we had made a good purchase instead of Keane, it could easily have been the difference.

If we continue to stand still in our most pressing position, for the nth year running, and we have another year where the other teams are in a rebuilding cycle, I'll be fucking furious. It is still definitely possible, but we should be trying to build on quality.

As we've seen, it's hard to keep a good spine together, Agger could have been off, Alonso/Mascherano still could leave. Gerrard is getting older.

 

[ILD]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg905267#msg905267 date=1247519072]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=34691.msg905195#msg905195 date=1247513158]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904873#msg904873 date=1247476552]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904869#msg904869 date=1247476441]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34691.msg904868#msg904868 date=1247476269]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34691.msg904867#msg904867 date=1247476129]

With Cristiano Ronaldo gone, Man United will get 12 points less.

people were saying the same thing about RVN when he fucked off (coincedentally to real).
[/quote]

When RVN left, didnt Chelsea win 2 EPL titles? Correct me if I am wrong.
[/quote]

yes, they did. I actually predicted they would do better without him.
[/quote]

So it actually took Man U 2 years to rebuild. We can dream a little for the time being...
[/quote]

RVN was sold in 2006 no? United won the league the year after he was sold.
[/quote]

oh thank goodness I thought I was going mad. well, 'more' mad 😉
[/quote]

That was going around in circles.

 

[Y1]

[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=34691.msg905074#msg905074 date=1247500036]
To be fair, the author probably isn't English as he's calling the Premierleague the EPL.
[/quote]

The author is a Mr Palmer who was a journalist. If not mistaken an Anglicised Irish.