Trent, Salah and VVD
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https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/virgil-van-dijk-transfer-approach-180911957.html
Lol. Probably nothing 🤔
Lol. Probably nothing 🤔
So, do we need to get this thread to 100 pages and then all three re-sign?
Is that what we're missing here.
(Just realized we're at 60-odd pages.)
Is that what we're missing here.
(Just realized we're at 60-odd pages.)
It’s been a long time since we had a mega thread.
Sign a contract and put in the effort that 18/19 Trent did out of possession.
After a poor start they are chasing Bayern down again so he’s definitely the real deal.
Even if he did - he is who he is.
This would flare up again in a couple of years.
Time to move on.
We can sell him then, I don’t think a single fan would begrudge him going for 30m-40m in the summer to Madrid after helping us win another title in front of the fans. This talk of 100m for a RB is nonsense.
Feel sorry for Slot coming in to this shit. I mean, anything he does re Trent is magnified. If he drops him, hooks him early, or whatever it just feeds the media and Trent hasn't helped by spitting his dummy out previously when being subbed. So you can kinda see why it took time to make the change on Sunday. It either creates a headline or amplifies Trent's obvious discontent.
Hopefully he signs and then Slot can do what he wants with him when form requires it.
Hopefully he signs and then Slot can do what he wants with him when form requires it.
I think that's sort of missing the point though. Why were we (esp. Trent) so bad? Why wasn't Trent hooked? Because of the contract situation and Trent acting like a cunt? Yes. And it likely cost us 2 points, he should have been hooked at 2-1 though I'd have hooked him at HT.
That draw was on Slot and Trent but brought about because Slot didn't want to antagonise TAA with the contract issue unresolved. For what it's worth I think that the fallout will have pushed Trent to RM - and good riddance, he doesn't suit Slot's team/tactics.
I think that’s all pure speculation on your part.
I reckon it’s bonkers to think Arne Slot is sitting there thinking “Better not take Trent off because he hasn’t signed a new contract”.
I don’t know why he didn’t bring on Bradley earlier - but I’d be shocked if the contract situation played the slightest part.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. And you can't offer up any other feasible suggestion.
Nobody, like nobody, inside or outside the ground (in fact they were baying to get him off), could see any reason to keep him on, especially when we went 2-1 up, his defensive weakness and with Garnacho coming on to combine with Fernandes and Dalot was asking for trouble - which we got.
There are a number of ducks it could look like.
Maybe he didn't trust Bradley's fitness enough for a longer excursion (and dont say why was he on the bench then, that often happens), the cuddly guy on Momo's favourite podcast said that the atmosphere towards trent had gone a bit toxic and taking him off early could have led to a Zirkzee type reaction from the fans.
There's two potential ducks - not saying they are accurate ducks, but the ayre ducks nonetheless. I am sure there are a fee more in the flock
Maybe he didn't trust Bradley's fitness enough for a longer excursion (and dont say why was he on the bench then, that often happens), the cuddly guy on Momo's favourite podcast said that the atmosphere towards trent had gone a bit toxic and taking him off early could have led to a Zirkzee type reaction from the fans.
There's two potential ducks - not saying they are accurate ducks, but the ayre ducks nonetheless. I am sure there are a fee more in the flock
Had we taken him off at half time we wouldn’t have got a zee zee too reaction but I don’t think Bradley was ready for 45. That’s why think he will get 45 tonight.
I think Trent's a goner. 99% sure.
I wont be surprised if he leaves this month too, what with all the stick he's been receiving lately.
I wont be surprised if he leaves this month too, what with all the stick he's been receiving lately.
He has himself to blame
It wasn’t about one player though. Lack of cover on right when he was struggling could have compensated for it. Konate didn’t look ready either. He probably didn’t trust Bradley’s fitness and bring him on? Maybe didn’t wanna annoy Trent’s ego? Either way, the amount of negativity and focus on whole thing after how good he was in just 7 days prior is a bit much in my view. We got a point still.
Is he self-aware of his failings? Other players would normally go to socials, admit of their failings and commit to do better
Despite my Lack of hair, I’m not Arne Slot, so anything I would suggest would be purely speculative.
I’ll say this though, we have a bigger problem than Trent if the manager isn’t taking someone off that’s playing badly because he hasn’t signed a contract.
The most likely scenario is Bradley wasn’t ready for more minutes - I was surprised he even made the bench. Almost feels like he was always planning to only introduce Bradley for a short run out.
Do we know if Trent’s still got minor injury issues and taking pain killing injections? It wasn’t mentioned a while back, are we sure it’s not still happening?
Maybe, as the game opened up, Slot gambled slightly that one of Trent’s passes would pay off?
Maybe Slot just made a mistake for no other reason than people make mistakes?
Again… all I can do is speculate.
The Zirkzee type reaction was an immense reception from the United fans on his return !
I feel if there was any other specific reason then Slot may well have mentioned it (not in response to Trent questions but in the pre or post match comments).
We may never know the true reason however I'll just reiterate this :
'For what it's worth I think that the fallout will have pushed Trent to RM - and good riddance, he doesn't suit Slot's team/tactics'.
And point people to my previous comment here :
Well, apparently Slot has to play him because he hasn’t signed a contract yet…
You mean to say the Arne Slot that’s been described as masterfully swatting aside questions with non answers didn’t take the opportunity to do a full disclosure of the minutiae of his decision to not to hook Trent earlier to the assembled global press.
Well… my gast is well and truly flabbered!!!!
I don't agree that Trent doesn't suit Slot, though. Statistically, he is one of our best players this season, and he has the top assists with Salah, our best combo. It's obvious Slot rates Trent a lot, will be interesting to see next game.We may never know the true reason however I'll just reiterate this :
'For what it's worth I think that the fallout will have pushed Trent to RM - and good riddance, he doesn't suit Slot's team/tactics'.
And point people to my previous comment here :
Well that's an interesting tangent/misinterpretation I must say. He could have, for example, commented on Bradley's fitness before or after the match, that's hardly a disclosure of minutiae. He had no problem throwing Gravy under the bus ... but then Gravy's contract isn't up in a few months time.
Statistically he's our worst defender ! Weigh those scales. Bradders already has better defensive stats and his G+As based on minutes played last season is almost twice as good as Trents !
I don't know if Bradley is the answer to RB but I'm damn sure Trent isn't.
Well, if we’re in the realms of him having to say stuff to stop normally sane people concocting conspiracy theories, then maybe you’re right.
And he didn’t “throw Gravy under the bus”, don’t go all Modo as well to top it off.
