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Ings is contracted to be sold, only getting £20m
Lovren has interests, but it's from Italy which usually means a loan.
Camacho, looks like he will go but for a much lower fee than the original £10m
Clyne, has Bournemouth indicated they want to buy him?
Lallana, wants to leave on a free with one year left and aging (not going anywhere this summer)
Grujic, another loan deal.
Wilson, don't know if he has any takers at £20m
Ming again read nothing about anyone wanting him.
Kent, Rangers want him but can't afford him. Looks to be another loan deal.
Ojo gone to Rangers.
Allen Rodriguez, 4 years now. Surely you'd want to sell him even if the fee is nominal
Divock, hopefully signs another contract. Thinking back on it, after his heroics he deserves to be part of the squad
 
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Lallana has said he is NOT leaving. He has definitely NOT said he wants to leave so shouldn't be on your list.
 
Lallana is exactly the sort of player we should be moving on, well past his peak, highly injury prone and not much left on his contract. If you removed him from our squad last season it would have made zero impact to the team and freed up a spot for a younger player to push through. He should go this summer. There is no upside to keeping him.
 
Lallana is exactly the sort of player we should be moving on, well past his peak, highly injury prone and not much left on his contract. If you removed him from our squad last season it would have made zero impact to the team and freed up a spot for a younger player to push through. He should go this summer. There is no upside to keeping him.
If I wrote that....sheeesh....
 
To comment on the OP's post, one thing I've learned through years of having Klopp manage us, he's not afraid to keep certain players if his worth to the squad as an option is greater than his transfer value.
For instance Moreno, who could have been sold to Napoli I think.
So I don't see many players leaving unless we get a great offer and we find perfect replacements.
Clyne and Camacho will definitely leave.
Some would have already been sold but with the market being as it is...I think clubs are being a bit careful. We'll see more action next week I believe or the beginning of July.
 
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Liverpool must break character and be ruthless with Lallana


June 15th
• by Sam McGuire
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It’s a phrase muttered almost every year but the 2019 summer transfer window could be the one to shape Liverpool’s future.
However, whereas in previous seasons it was clear the Reds needed to make improvements in certain areas, this summer it’s more about improving the tier of players below Jürgen Klopp’s core group.
Get that right and Liverpool are in a good place to compete for the Premier League title yet again. Get it wrong and it’s difficult to envisage the Reds competing on all fronts next season.

Granted, it’s difficult to improve on a 97-point league campaign and a sixth European Cup. But with others not standing still, Liverpool can’t afford to rest on their laurels.
It’s all about marginal games at this level. That extends to off the field activities, too. Being able to sell players with no future at the club to fund potential arrivals is key to this. One such player who could fall into this category is Adam Lallana.
He’s tentatively been linked with a move away but when asked by Sky Sports following Liverpool’s triumph in Madrid he put to bed those rumours.
“Yeah. Absolutely no question about it. I couldn’t be happier here, winning Champions Leagues. It’s pinch yourself stuff. And more to come, a lot more to come. I’ve got a year left on my contract. I’ll be back, I’ll be training through the summer.
“I am as eager as ever to get fit because I know when I’m fit I’ve got a lot to give and I can get in this team.”
While Lallana’s attitude is admirable, it shouldn’t be what saves him from departing Anfield. Liverpool need to be ruthless. Getting a transfer fee for him would be good business, as would be getting his wages off the books.
The former Southampton captain was an integral part of Klopp’s initial Liverpool team. His flexibility and work rate made him one of the German’s favourite players and it was under the ex-BVB tactician that Lallana showed his best ever form during the first half of the 2016/17 campaign.
But times have changed. Liverpool have moved on as a team. Though that version of Lallana would have a place in Klopp’s plans, it’s hard to imagine where the Liverpool No.20 fits in now because it’s been so long since he had a run of games.
Nobody knows what he’s capable of, not even the player himself, purely because his body can’t be trusted these days.

Since arriving in the summer of 2014, Lallana has played, roughly, 6,900 minutes in the Premier League from the 17,100 on offer. Around 40 per cent. Of course, he’s not missed every match because of injury but according to transfermrket he has missed 70 games directly linked to an injury since joining.
But even when fit in recent seasons, he’s hardly contributed.
Since New Years Day 2017, the 31-year-old has one goal to his name. He was named as one of the reasons Liverpool were happy to let Philippe Coutinho move to Barcelona in January 2018. Yet since the Brazilian’s departure, Lallana has appeared in 980 minutes of play.
You could argue he’s not been able to replicate the form he showed at the start of 2016/17 because he hasn’t had a sustained run in the first-team. This is true.
However, Liverpool are no longer in a position were they can start a player who isn’t fit and is out of form. Competing at the top takes away such a luxury. Simply put, if Lallana isn’t starting it’s because he’s not doing enough in training to suggest he warrants a place in Klopp’s XI.
The argument to keep him for the final year of his deal veers into Dejan Lovren territory in the sense it is centred around whether you can find a player of similar quality for, say, £20million.
It would be difficult to find someone to replace Lovren for such a fee. It’d be near impossible to replace 2016/17 Lallana for £20million but that isn’t the challenge.
Replacing a high-earning squad player who is rarely available for £20million is something you can do. And that should be how such a decision is viewed.

For example, Celta Vigo’s Brais Méndez reportedly has a £23million release clause. Since January 1, 2017, the 22-year-old has an expected goals per 90 average of 0.22.
That isn’t to suggest he should be a transfer target but that it would be possible to replace what Lallana has averaged during that period without breaking the bank, meaning that argument to keep him is somewhat nullified.
The Reds have coped without him for the best part of two years. Recouping some of the money they paid for him, as well as freeing up the £110,000-per-week wage he takes home could go a long way to helping Liverpool improve their squad this summer.
It may appear to be ruthless, and out of character for the Merseyside club, but sometimes this sort of business needs to be done to progress as a club.
 
Who writes this shite? Who the fuck is gonna match his wages and / or pay for him? Jesus fucking Christ
 
Yeh I can’t see anyone paying those wages for lallana. Great little player when fit and on form, but I can’t see him getting a game next season, and that’s even if we don’t strengthen further in the window.
 
Who writes this shite? Who the fuck is gonna match his wages and / or pay for him? Jesus fucking Christ
transfer season always amuses me.
there's always few souls that think if we want to sell, somebody will buy. or we just don't want to clear out the deadwoods. it is not.

there's a quote in an article, everybody know this actually and i'm not bothered to find it again, an agent/club said that selling/buying players involves 3 parties. selling club, buying club, the player. 4 if you include agents and 5 if you are adrien rabiot. everybody must agree for the transfer to happen.

if rumours are to be believed. real madrid is pushing hard to sell bale this season. i believe they are willing to give him for free. but nobody is ready to pay 600k per week. and bale is happy to not even sit on the bench as long as he is paid 600k per week. he is not going to take a pay cut. what can real madrid do? nothing. so, is real madrid stupid or not ruthless because they does not get rid of bale? llalana is 'only' on 110, bale is on 600.

so, as a few people here do point it out, why should a player take a pay cut? unless you are in your early 20's and you see that there's an upward trajectory for you if you were given play time, there's no incentive to move. if you are already in your 30's, you know you are in your twilight years. why bother?

there's even young players like markovic who is not bothered to not play in first team as long as he gets the paycheck. how can we move him out? no way.
 
We’ll be paying for a part of his wages for that final year of his contract anyway. So sell him for a nominal fee that might cover those wages and get rid.
But I suspect its more a free transfer and we pay part of the wages for a year if its a deal to made for him.
 
I don’t think Lallana would be short of offers if we were willing to give him away for free or a nominal fee.
A nominal fees these days is like 10 million. I'd happily sell him for that - he has very little value to us now.
 
The only thing I took from that article was that he was good for half a season 3 YEARS AGO and people still defend him here and call him "useful"...
 
That's because you were doing so before he even arrived, were still parroting the same rubbish during his most productive periods with us and, now that the guy is older and his career's nearing its end, are trying to claim that you were right all along. "Obsessive" ain't the half of it.
 
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That's because you were doing so before he even arrived, were still parroting the same rubbish during his most productive periods with us and, now that the guy is older and his career's nearing its end, are trying to claim that you were right all along. "Obsessive" ain't the half of it.
Of course...now age is the issue. Anyway, yeah we paid premium for him. Worth every penny. For 6 months.
 
You denied even that much at the time, and a pound to a penny says you'll still be stuck on the same loop long after he goes. Get help. You badly need it.
 
transfer season always amuses me.
there's always few souls that think if we want to sell, somebody will buy. or we just don't want to clear out the deadwoods. it is not.

there's a quote in an article, everybody know this actually and i'm not bothered to find it again, an agent/club said that selling/buying players involves 3 parties. selling club, buying club, the player. 4 if you include agents and 5 if you are adrien rabiot. everybody must agree for the transfer to happen.

if rumours are to be believed. real madrid is pushing hard to sell bale this season. i believe they are willing to give him for free. but nobody is ready to pay 600k per week. and bale is happy to not even sit on the bench as long as he is paid 600k per week. he is not going to take a pay cut. what can real madrid do? nothing. so, is real madrid stupid or not ruthless because they does not get rid of bale? llalana is 'only' on 110, bale is on 600.

so, as a few people here do point it out, why should a player take a pay cut? unless you are in your early 20's and you see that there's an upward trajectory for you if you were given play time, there's no incentive to move. if you are already in your 30's, you know you are in your twilight years. why bother?

there's even young players like markovic who is not bothered to not play in first team as long as he gets the paycheck. how can we move him out? no way.
Is bale really on €31.2m a year? That would make him 2nd or 3rd best player in the world. Who at RM signed that salary package? I had thought he was on €300k.
 
Is bale really on €31.2m a year? That would make him 2nd or 3rd best player in the world. Who at RM signed that salary package? I had thought he was on €300k.

600k before tax, 350k after.

Still, it's ridiculous. But not as fking stupid as the people who gave contracts to:

Sanchez
Pogba
Higuain
Ozil
Lukaku

who are all in the top 6 highest wages in the league.
Speaking of which, Lallana apparently gets 65k, Migs 60k, Clyne 70k, Moreno 40k and Sturridge got 120k.
 
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Crystal Palace are reportedly set to make an £8million bid for Liverpool goalkeeper Simon Mignolet.

The 31-year-old looks likely to leave Anfield this summer after making just two appearances last season.

The London Evening Standard say sources close to the keeper claim Palace, Brighton and several clubs in Germany and France are interested.
 
Alberto Moreno has left Liverpool with a touching message to the club and its supporters.
“Life goes in cycles, and mine at my beloved Liverpool FC has drawn to an end,” he told his 1.3 million Instagram followers.
“Upon reaching this point, I would like to thank my entire Liverpool family: my dear team-mates, with whom I have shared five marvellous years and who I will forever think as family.
“And, of course, the owners, directors, coaching staff, doctors, kitmen, and each and every person at the club.
“Thank you for making me a better footballer and, above all, a better person; for helping me to fulfil one of my childhood dreams by winning the Champions League.
“And, in doing so, to become a small part of the history of this great club.
“My gratitude too to the city, which embraced me as one of its own from day one and which will live on in my memory whenever I look at my son, Alberto Jr., a Liverpudlian himself.
“Finally, a very special thank you to the club’s superb fans, who always supported me.
“I wish you all at Liverpool FC the greatest successes.
“Wherever life takes me from here, I will always carry you in my heart and forever be a fan. You’ll Never Walk Alone!”
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Albie musing about the circularity of time...

Whoever wrote this is taking the piss.

That's all we are to these players - they just come and use us to win the CL, get their dreams and fuck off. We get used like prostitute when it comes to the CL !!!! - still feels good that players can come here and win a CL but not an English title. That is just strange.
 
That's all we are to these players - they just come and use us to win the CL, get their dreams and fuck off. We get used like prostitute when it comes to the CL !!!! - still feels good that players can come here and win a CL but not an English title. That is just strange.

*world's largest sigh*
 
That's all we are to these players - they just come and use us to win the CL, get their dreams and fuck off. We get used like prostitute when it comes to the CL !!!! - still feels good that players can come here and win a CL but not an English title. That is just strange.

Shocking. We should deduct their pay everytime we win the CL for them....
 
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