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Keep it all here folks.

Brazil and Fabiano (Winner/Top scorer) 22/1. (PP)

Spain and Villa 14/1. (PP)

Serbia e.w. 69/1 (Betfair)

Liking them at the mo.
 
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Keep it all here folks.

Brazil and Fabiano (Winner/Top scorer) 22/1. (PP)

Spain and Villa 14/1. (PP)

Serbia e.w. 69/1 (Betfair)

Liking them at the mo.
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Just like to highlight the crazy price Slovakia are to win the world cup 550/1. They have Weiss (man city) and Stoch (chelsea) on either side of midfield (both hugely talented youngsters), Hamsik of Napoli in central midfield who is/has being courted by many of the top teams in Europe (including us apparently), a couple of very useful forwards in Sestak and Vittel and a decent defence which includes Skrtel.

They finished ahead of the Czechs and Poland in their group and if either of those teams had qualified they would be about 80/1 instead of 550/1. Just because Slovakia do not (supposedly) have a decent pedigree in world football they have been dismissed. I say supposedly because they actually provided 10 of the Czechoslovakian team that won the 1976 European Championship and the majority of the Czechoslovakian players in the 1930's and 1960's who reached 2 world cup finals!

Obviously they're a long shot but 550/1 has to be worth a couple of quid.

I'm laying the crap out of Brazil - I just don't fancy them at all. Robinho is hugely overrtaed, yes he talented but he plays for himself and only fleetingly. Elano is a thoroughly average player and up front they don't have a Ronaldo, Romario, Zico quality striker this time. I have got 5/6 (Betfair) that they don't make the semi finals.

Spain obviously should win the world cup but anyone backing them at 4/1 should be shot, it's a crazy price especially as their defence is not the strongest and they don't have Senna this time to patrol in front of said defence.
 
Spain & Villa 14/1 is a joke.

Spain are 4/1 and Villa is 10/1, thats a 55/1 double on its own isnt it? Am i missing something?
 
We have a good betting syndicate (Not sure if that's the correct term) going in work. Was £10 in and you'd to vote for group winner, golden boot and winner. After that we have been given £2 each to place on a designated day, I've got the 15th. The games are:

New Zealand v Slovakia
Ivory Coast v Portugal
Brazil v Koera DPR

So I can bet my £2 anyway I like and any winnings go back in the pot.

I'm not a betting man so haven't got a clue about what the best way to structure the bet would be.

Any help SCMers?
 
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Spain are 4/1 and Villa is 10/1, thats a 55/1 double on its own isnt it? Am i missing something?
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It is a joke at 14/1 but can't quite be 55/1 just because the bets are related. If Spain have won the tournament and you don't know who has won the boot you'd be happy to back Villa at 10's.
 
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[quote author=Piedro link=topic=40540.msg1116385#msg1116385 date=1276094022]
Spain are 4/1 and Villa is 10/1, thats a 55/1 double on its own isnt it? Am i missing something?
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It is a joke at 14/1 but can't quite be 55/1 just because the bets are related. If Spain have won the tournament and you don't know who has won the boot you'd be happy to back Villa at 10's.
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Exactly, and if Villa is the top scorer with about 7 goals then there's a very good chance Spain will win the world cup - However 14/1 is pathetic, the correct price should be about 18/1.
 
[quote author=Bradley link=topic=40540.msg1116393#msg1116393 date=1276094240]
We have a good betting syndicate (Not sure if that's the correct term) going in work. Was £10 in and you'd to vote for group winner, golden boot and winner. After that we have been given £2 each to place on a designated day, I've got the 15th. The games are:

New Zealand v Slovakia
Ivory Coast v Portugal
Brazil v Koera DPR

So I can bet my £2 anyway I like and any winnings go back in the pot.

I'm not a betting man so haven't got a clue about what the best way to structure the bet would be.

Any help SCMers?
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Stick the £2 on Slovakia to beat NZ and leave the other 2 games alone Brad.
 
I'm warming to Slovakia Pesam. Perhaps a bet to qualify from the group.
 
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I'm warming to Slovakia Pesam. Perhaps a bet to qualify from the group.
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13/10 at Hills best price, i've already had a bit!
 
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[quote author=Bradley link=topic=40540.msg1116393#msg1116393 date=1276094240]
We have a good betting syndicate (Not sure if that's the correct term) going in work. Was £10 in and you'd to vote for group winner, golden boot and winner. After that we have been given £2 each to place on a designated day, I've got the 15th. The games are:

New Zealand v Slovakia
Ivory Coast v Portugal
Brazil v Koera DPR

So I can bet my £2 anyway I like and any winnings go back in the pot.

I'm not a betting man so haven't got a clue about what the best way to structure the bet would be.

Any help SCMers?
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Stick the £2 on Slovakia to beat NZ and leave the other 2 games alone Brad.
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As simple as that! It's on. I'll let you all know how it all works out and if I can get any money back for the £10 I put in.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40540.msg1116428#msg1116428 date=1276096397]
I'm warming to Slovakia Pesam. Perhaps a bet to qualify from the group.
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Yup, although I've bet on them to win outright but because I've done it on Betfair I will trade some of my bet if they qualify. Stoch was FC Twente's best players as they won the Dutch league and Weiss had a coupe of superb games in qualifying where he tore defences to pieces (including the funny one where he turned Jonny Evans inside out) and with those two kids supplying Sestak and Vittel (2 more than useful forwards) i can see them putting 3 or 4 past NZ.

Hamsik in CM is the real diamond though and I think he'll sign for a top team after the world cup.

The defence is sound and Skrtel has a very good partnership with the other CB (his name begins with a D but escapes me at present).

Obviously their pivotal game will be against paraguay but it's another game I can see them winning.
 
I'm thinking of backing France not to get out of Group A. They were shocking in their qualifying group and haven't been any better in the warm up matches in the run-up to the World Cup. The hosts are in the great form, at just the right time and of course they've got the home support. Mexico, who I feel could go very far this tournament, have played some tough opposition in the warm up matches as good preparation which should bode them well over the next month. And Uruguay who have a good all round team and a lethal strike force.
 
12/5 last time I checked on Bet365 for Javier Hernandez (if he starts) anytime scorer v South Africa. Great value. Most other firms go between 6/4 and 15/8. It's a totally wrong price.

Banged in 3 goals in last 3 friendly games and South Africa are loose at the back.

He's still young but I'm presuming they must start him.
 
Yesssss good shout Nic. A little Hernandez related story...his dad is the manager of Chivas' reserve side but they wouldn't give him time off to watch his son at the World Cup so he more or less told them where to go and said that family is more important. So hopefully he'll impress in front of Hernandez Snr.
 
Of my bets that are still the same price that I bet them at........

Heskey 4/1 top Villa goalscorer Betfred
Ozil top Bundesliga 50/1 ew Paddy
Tevez vs Ronaldo 9/2 coral
Japan nil point 11/2 sp bet
Slovaks to qualify 13/10 hills
Greece not to 8/13
Klose no goals 10/3
Serbia vs Ghana 6/5
Uruguay vs France 3/1
Sk v Greece 2/1
Mexico v Uruguay DNB 10/11
Under 2.5 honduras goals 5/6 Victor

Am off out there tomorrow so I'll apologise in a couple of weeks if anyone copies any of those!
 
PP had odds up for Ozil for young player of the tounament. Can't see him on the list anymore.
 
Ive gone for a Mexico/France double today. Going against trends and form i guess but makes the games interesting.
 
I've had 6 singles and a double and so far they've all come in. All smallish stakes, but I'm very happy.

My three for today were Slovenia & Germany double @ 3.24 ish, Germay to win @ 1.6 and Ozzies most cards @ 1.59. ;D

Yesterday instead of backing Ingerlund I had them on the corner count @ 1.40 as I did France @ 1.77

I also layed Greece, backed the Argies & went Under 2.5 in the France game.
 
Ok, bets on to make the first game a bit more interesting today.

Slovakia to win 1/2
Slovakia to score 2 or more 4/5
Hamsik MoM 13/2

5 quid on each.
 
Slovakia should beat NZ comfortably. I'm not backing them today because I have a huuuuuge wedge on them in the outright market which I intend to trade off if/when they win today.

Maybe a small wager on Sestak 1st goalscorer @ 5/1 - not a big price but he's the most likely scorer for the strong favourites so value all the same.
 
I had to decide between Sestak as first scorer or Hamsik for MoM. Went with the higher odds on Hamsik as I expect the other two bets to see me in some profit.

May put a pound or two on Sestak now.
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=40540.msg1116425#msg1116425 date=1276095926]
[quote author=Bradley link=topic=40540.msg1116393#msg1116393 date=1276094240]
We have a good betting syndicate (Not sure if that's the correct term) going in work. Was £10 in and you'd to vote for group winner, golden boot and winner. After that we have been given £2 each to place on a designated day, I've got the 15th. The games are:

New Zealand v Slovakia
Ivory Coast v Portugal
Brazil v Koera DPR

So I can bet my £2 anyway I like and any winnings go back in the pot.

I'm not a betting man so haven't got a clue about what the best way to structure the bet would be.

Any help SCMers?
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Stick the £2 on Slovakia to beat NZ and leave the other 2 games alone Brad.
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As simple as that! It's on. I'll let you all know how it all works out and if I can get any money back for the £10 I put in.
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*Shakes fist at Pesam* Why I oughta!
 
Sorry Brad, if it makes you feel any better I stand to win £550,000 in the hugely unlikely scenario that Slovakia win the WC and was just about to trade my liability (which would have left me with a free £250,000 bet if Slovakia had held on!). Now I've got to hope they beat Paraguay or at least draw and beat Italy! C'est la vie.
 
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=40540.msg1120619#msg1120619 date=1276635996]
Sorry Brad, if it makes you feel any better I stand to win £550,000 in the hugely unlikely scenario that Slovakia win the WC and was just about to trade my liability (which would have left me with a free £250,000 bet if Slovakia had held on!). Now I've got to hope they beat Paraguay or at least draw and beat Italy! C'est la vie.
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If you do win the £550,000 could you pay me the £2.89 back so I can take it back to my betting syndicate?
 
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[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=40540.msg1120619#msg1120619 date=1276635996]
Sorry Brad, if it makes you feel any better I stand to win £550,000 in the hugely unlikely scenario that Slovakia win the WC and was just about to trade my liability (which would have left me with a free £250,000 bet if Slovakia had held on!). Now I've got to hope they beat Paraguay or at least draw and beat Italy! C'est la vie.
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If you do win the £550,000 could you pay me the £2.89 back so I can take it back to my betting syndicate?
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Call it an even £3.00
 
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[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=40540.msg1120619#msg1120619 date=1276635996]
Sorry Brad, if it makes you feel any better I stand to win £550,000 in the hugely unlikely scenario that Slovakia win the WC and was just about to trade my liability (which would have left me with a free £250,000 bet if Slovakia had held on!). Now I've got to hope they beat Paraguay or at least draw and beat Italy! C'est la vie.
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If you do win the £550,000 could you pay me the £2.89 back so I can take it back to my betting syndicate?
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Call it an even £3.00
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Fuck it, I'll make it a fiver.
 
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