WWIII Return of the Ruskie

[Athens]

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Mors must be smoking something.

I see it's starting to ramp up a bit, there's all sorts of talk of action.

As a side note, a Greek fighter jet has crashed after intercepting a Turkish fighter jet which had entered Greek airspace. The Turks have been doing this a lot more often lately, I hope they fucking stop it soon.

 

[The Nomad]

On a side note.. Why hasn't Yulia been pictured or released a VT yet? Russia are loving this propoganda war.

 

[Mors]

It looks like the inspectors were allowed in yesterday, I suspect we'll get a repeat of the Skripal incident - they might say something has been used, but wont be able to say where it's come from. I'd like to sell the yanks do one of their usual attack in the middle of the night routines, smashing up and airbase with 500 tomahawks, but their sub to get mysterious sunk.

 

[Rosco]

I see British Intelligence is being used to prove the Russian involvement in recent events.

I hope its better than the intelligence Blair massaged to justify a war.

Cos it looks like the media are preparing us for one.

 

[HC]

Surely these two GU 'assasins' are being set up, this has to be the worst known assasination attempt ever?

Utterly botched attempt followed by the most overt extraction ever.

AS GU report to the state and Putin how on earth does the UK and EU continue with Russia relations?

 

[Woland]

 

[Judge Jules]

Seymour Hersh, a big name investigative journo in the States, has an interesting take on this whole thing. He agrees it must have been sanctioned at a high level within the Russian govt.but reckons it was done to protect the Russian mob, as it was about their activities that Skripal was spilling his guts to MI6. If he's right, the fact that this wasn't actually done on behalf of their govt.itself, but as something of a contract job, might account for it all seeming rather slipshod.

 

[Irish_Red]

I read that the perfume bottle they used was found in a charity bin, Why a charity bin? any other bin the bottle would never have been found.

If these two boys did do it, i'd imagine they've been taken care off already for been so stupid.

 

[Atlas]

They could have planned to be atrociously bad, don't know to what end

 

[Judge Jules]

Based on Hersh's theory, a warning from the Russian mob to any other potential whistleblowers to keep their traps shut would be my guess. Alternatively it might not have been planned to be a bit of a lash-up but just didn't get the level of prep which a job on behalf of the govt.itself would have got.

 

[dantes]

They could have planned to be atrociously bad, don't know to what end

Perhaps to make their denial seem somewhat more plausible. Without evidence, they were the only suspect in town. With a surprisingly ridiculous amount of evidence, the possibility of a stich up gets put on the table, an inside job, a false flag, fake news.

 

[HC]

Based on Hersh's theory, a warning from the Russian mob to any other potential whistleblowers to keep their traps shut would be my guess. Alternatively it might not have been planned to be a bit of a lash-up but just didn't get the level of prep which a job on behalf of the govt.itself would have got.

Level of prep?!

Employ two well known and recognised agents,Used chemical obviously linked to Russia , utilise said chemical in sloppy manner and escape via every possible security camera going.sloppy doesnt begin to cover it

It was as good of an effort as the average plank that goes on the channel 4 program about evading gchq or whoever

 

[dantes]

Hahaha Theresa can go fuck herself. How dare she complain about blatant lies and fabrications, and talk about insulting victims. Hypocritical bitch, as if she will say anything to Putin's face. She won't do shit.

 

[737Max]

So they went the day before they poisoned the Skripals on a rekkie to Salisbury then went back to London. Next day off to Salisbury to poison them and then back to London. Then on TV today claimed they only came to see the Church and fucked off after an hour. Shittest tourists ever

 

[Judge Jules]

They clearly know how ridiculous this looks, and couldn't give a stuff.

Ironically, if Seymour Hersh is right and this was a contract job for the Russian mafia, Putin and the rest may even be telling the truth when saying it wasn't done for the Russian government. And the fact that it couldn't have happened without the Russian government? A mere detail.

 

[Woland]

I dunno. You'd be surprised at the amount of random forty something males who decide on a whim to visit Salisbury for forty minutes from thousands of miles away.

 

[Athens]

Peter Gabriel fans?

 

[Athens]

No wait, that's Solsbury.

 

[Woland]

 

[Woland]

 

[Halmeister]

I wouldn't be uninterested in a feature-length comedy about two gay cathedral enthusiasts from Russia whose dream holiday to Salisbury via Bow turns into a nightmare when they get accused of carrying out a chemical weapons attack.

 

[Mors]

Syria has been shipped it first few deployments of the S300, which although not new, has been heavily redeveloped. I think the Russians have shipped enough for a massive coverage area (although most effective at sub 40km).
This is most likely going to put the kibosh on the dodgy Israeli's entertaining flying over, but also the yanks. At the moment the Syrian air defences are dire, the S300's they're getting are a massive upgrade, and would even cause the F22/F35's serious trouble.
S300's and S400's can also take out cruise missiles, if they choose to waste it on them.

 

[Woland]

I wish they could just fill my car with fuel without me having to see all this war on my telly

 

[Athens]

So Trump is going to leave the nuclear weapons treaty with Russia. This of course means that the Russians are now free to abandon it as well. Putin will be delighted.

Putin must have some serious shit on Trump, like snuff movie level stuff.

 

[Mors]

They're kicking off because the russians have developed a very long range cruise missile with a mini nuclear power plant in, that could be nuclear tipped. And they've got a torpedo version aswell. So in this instance they're right for a change, the russians announcing they have these is in breach of the agreement, and the yanks have green eyes.

 

[Athens]

Tensions with Ukraine have escalated somewhat.

 

[rurikbird]

Reality is not as dramatic, fortunately. After annexing Crimea, Russians have de-facto assumed control of the Kerch strait, which is the only way out of the Azov sea. Their goal seems to be to effectively land-lock a large part of Ukraine which will lead to a big economic hit for steel-exporting cities in Eastern Ukraine. Legally according to maritime law and treaties they they have to let the Ukrainian ships pass through, but in recent months they started demanding inspections or closing the strait under clearly made-up reasons.

3 small military ships of Ukraine were going from the port of Odessa on the Black sea to Mariupol on the Azov and when they reached the strait, Russians said it's closed for "maintenance," even though they were letting Russian ships pass through. Then the Ukrainian boats informed them they are going to pass through anyway – and when they tried to do so Russian military ships opened fire (6 Ukrainian sailors were injured, 2 in critical condition) and rammed one ship, eventually taking all the crews prisoner.

This was all captured on video by the Russians themselves, you can hear the Russian captain very excitedly ordering them to ram the small boat:


UN Security council meeting resulted in a strong rebuke of Russia's actions from the other members; Russia's argument that all this was done for "safety reasons" was laughable on its face. Domestically, after 2 days of heated deliberation, Ukrainian parliament declared martial law for 30 days in every region bordering Russia and Russia-occupied territories, but it's not clear specifically what that would accomplish. It's bad, but at present there is no reason to think that a large-scale war is on the horizon.

What makes this conflict different from the "hybrid war" in Donbas is that this time the Russian navy under the Russian flag was shooting at the Ukrainian military personnel - not the mysterious "green men" or "Russian-backed separatists." So even though in terms of casualties this conflict pales in comparison to far larger and deadlier battles of the past few years, an important symbolic line has been crossed.

 

[Athens]

Rurikbird, King of Analysis.

 

[Mors]

And now the Ukrainian president has randomly called martial law into effect. He's got a general election coming up in a couple of months and his support was at an all time low......

 

[Portly]

Randomly? So you don't think that having Ukrainian warships shot at and rammed by Russian vessels should have produced any reaction?