The left in 'Murica is the same.
Poll Do you support England?
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The left in 'Murica is the same.
Like cos the right are in control it its that kind of jealousy where you pretend you're just not interested?
I don't think it's a political thing. It's more a kind of almost instinctive scepticism.
I don't have a particular anti-englishness, certainly not a blanket one, I pick and choose the bits I like - the bits I don't make me a hypocrite for the most part, given that the empire and all that guff delivered this era of decadence that I seem to enjoy. I reckon with a culture and history as vast and conflicted as ours you can't love or hate all of it. I feel dead lucky to have grown up in a country that spawns so much great creative work, it's everywhere. I'd include footy in that. We do it very well here. It's all the other shite I put in the other post that I can't stand. I don't know if it's getting worse or I'm just noticing it more, but the pandering to idiot centre ground on every level pisses me off no end.
As an Englishman, sure i'd LOVE it if i could see England play well and win a game or two yeah... in my lifetime i have seen the odd exciting tournament from them and yeah I enjoyed them and was gutted when we inevitable got turfed out...
It also doesn't help that international football is so crooked and run by some truly despicable wankers...
Moreover it's undoubtedly true that we are shite and have a fucking clueless, classless, manager with a massive chip on his oh so entitled shoulder and a depressingly healthy cunt fan count... so... i'm pretty much M'eh about them tbh.
I fucking hate Nigel Farage while we are at it.
And Cameron
And that labour foetus fuck...
But back onto the question...
I don't watch England anymore if that's any indication.
And Rooney is a cocksmoker.
And even though he's retired from internationals John Terry can eat a steamy dog shit... scum...
yeah... that's what I think about all that shite.
It also doesn't help that international football is so crooked and run by some truly despicable wankers...
Moreover it's undoubtedly true that we are shite and have a fucking clueless, classless, manager with a massive chip on his oh so entitled shoulder and a depressingly healthy cunt fan count... so... i'm pretty much M'eh about them tbh.
I fucking hate Nigel Farage while we are at it.
And Cameron
And that labour foetus fuck...
But back onto the question...
I don't watch England anymore if that's any indication.
And Rooney is a cocksmoker.
And even though he's retired from internationals John Terry can eat a steamy dog shit... scum...
yeah... that's what I think about all that shite.
Surprised, you been English and all.
This was just another case of the English trying to claim a talented foreigner as their own.
Like the Welsh did with George North?
...and Rupert Moon, and Colin Charvis, and so on....
I'm not really that fussed about England. When I was a kid I used to watch England matches, partly I think because in those days there weren't many live matches on the TV anyway, so you just got what you could!
As the years went on I lost pretty much all interest, and now I will watch England games in major tournaments, but even if I miss them it's not the end of the World.
I think the problem is that I hate most of the players, I hate most of the fans and I can't remember the last time I was particularly bothered either way about the manager. It doesn't endear you to a team really.
I remember a good few years ago watching Liverpool in a pub and some cunt of a Chelsea fan was moaning on about how we shouldn't be playing Gerrard because he needed to be fit for England. I pointed out to him that Liverpool pay his wages and that England are secondary. He accused me of 'not being a proper England fan' which he considered to be a really terrible insult, and looked really pleased with himself after he said it. If that's the mentality I don't think I will ever really fit in amongst England fans!
As the years went on I lost pretty much all interest, and now I will watch England games in major tournaments, but even if I miss them it's not the end of the World.
I think the problem is that I hate most of the players, I hate most of the fans and I can't remember the last time I was particularly bothered either way about the manager. It doesn't endear you to a team really.
I remember a good few years ago watching Liverpool in a pub and some cunt of a Chelsea fan was moaning on about how we shouldn't be playing Gerrard because he needed to be fit for England. I pointed out to him that Liverpool pay his wages and that England are secondary. He accused me of 'not being a proper England fan' which he considered to be a really terrible insult, and looked really pleased with himself after he said it. If that's the mentality I don't think I will ever really fit in amongst England fans!
I raise you:
Mo Farah
Lennox Lewis
Bradley Wiggins
Chris Froome
Douglas Jardine
Ted Dexter
Andrew Strauss
Trott
Tessa Sanderson
Cyrille Regis
Basil d’Oliveira
Tony Greig
Kevin Pietersen.
John Barnes
Terry Butcher
Manu Tuilagi
Graham Hick
Robin Smith
Matt Smith
Josh Lewsey
Raheem Sterling
Brad Barritt
Alex Corbisiero
Martin Mcague
Allan Mullally
Morgan that plays cricket but is from Dublin. Is it Owen?
So Englands best Boxer wasn't English.
Englands best cyclist wasn't born in England.
Englands best athlete wasn't born in England.
Englands best cricketer (you guessed it) wasn't born in England.
One of Englands best footballers wasn't born in England, and their future greatest player wasn't born in England.
Englands best cyclist wasn't born in England.
Englands best athlete wasn't born in England.
Englands best cricketer (you guessed it) wasn't born in England.
One of Englands best footballers wasn't born in England, and their future greatest player wasn't born in England.
You hate the fans (reasonably enough) but you're not bothered about that appalling old goat Hodgson?
Aaaah but they all chose to be English.
No better endorsement of a countries greatness.
I'm glad I started this thread. A lot of soul-searching and some thoughtful posts; Woland's one is a gem. And the poll results are amazing, I definitely didn't expect that the "No" vote (for whatever reason) would be almost 70% here... On the plus side for England, there were 2 foreigners who revealed themselves as English fans (Hansern and redhorizon2, I hope you don't mind me publishing your names). Maybe, with a different manager, not all hope is lost.
Well, when he was mismanaging Liverpool I couldn't stand the sight of him. Now he is managing England I don't especially like him but ultimately it's a team I don't care THAT much about so I don't have such a strong dislike of him.
Re the 'No' vote: you realise a LOT of people on here aren't English, right? And a large amount of them are Irish, whose patriotism basically makes any kind of pro-English sentiment impossible?
You have to ask people who at least have a theoretical possibility of being England fans to get any kind of measure of patriotic support.
Yep, it's only really about 60% of English people that don't support England. Most of whom would swing to the other side if Hodgson went.
Unless you are trolling I am disappointed by your sweeping generalisations
I think I'll suffer the consequences. Irish people don't want the England football team to do well. Whether or not you could find me 2 or 3 people in a thousand who do isn't really going to perturb me.
Now I know you are trolling
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