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F1 shows its biased face once again...

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by The Nomad, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. Rafanomenon

    Rafanomenon Active Member

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    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=26842.msg682848#msg682848 date=1222290253]
    he didn't cheat as much as Hamilton.

    Hamilton spent a large part of his first season cheating.
    [/quote]

    This is a massively pro Ferrari statement! OK Mclaren were found guilty of having technical documentation on the Ferrari car and were found to have similar technology on their car which is why they were thrown out of the constructors championship but your naive if you think it doesn't go on in the whole paddock.

    You think that there are 10+ teams all running completely different technologies that manage to lap a 2-3 mile track within tenths of a second of each other?
    You will find that it happens in every team - the only difference is that because it was a team that could challenge Ferrari on the track a big deal was made of it.

    If it was Force India for instance then nothing would be said.

    I also don't get the dislike for a British team/driver and the love for an italian team?
     
  2. Oncy

    Oncy Guest

    Stu, what Coulthard did in Spa is one of the most underhanded and ludicrously fucking dangerous things ive ever seen in f1.
    It was a brake test at 150mph in the pissing rain, it was disgusting and could have resulted in a very severe accident.
    So yeah, he went for him.
     
  3. The Nomad

    The Nomad Well-Known Member

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    [quote author=Rafanomenon link=topic=26842.msg683356#msg683356 date=1222346207]
    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=26842.msg682848#msg682848 date=1222290253]
    he didn't cheat as much as Hamilton.

    Hamilton spent a large part of his first season cheating.
    [/quote]

    This is a massively pro Ferrari statement! OK Mclaren were found guilty of having technical documentation on the Ferrari car and were found to have similar technology on their car which is why they were thrown out of the constructors championship but your naive if you think it doesn't go on in the whole paddock.

    You think that there are 10+ teams all running completely different technologies that manage to lap a 2-3 mile track within tenths of a second of each other?
    You will find that it happens in every team - the only difference is that because it was a team that could challenge Ferrari on the track a big deal was made of it.

    If it was Force India for instance then nothing would be said.

    I also don't get the dislike for a British team/driver and the love for an italian team?

    [/quote]

    Hear fucking hear... I've always been brought up to dislike Ferrari. (Though not the road car mind) ;)
     
  4. mike2903

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    [quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=26842.msg681632#msg681632 date=1222178209]
    How does cutting a corner and then letting the fella you overtook take it back equate to a 25 second penalty exactly? Surely it should a few seconds tops?
    [/quote]

    Minimum penalty is a drive through, that roughly equates to 25 secs

    The FIA have long had the nickname FIAt due to their bias towards Ferrari
     
  5. mike2903

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    [quote author=Rafanomenon link=topic=26842.msg683356#msg683356 date=1222346207]
    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=26842.msg682848#msg682848 date=1222290253]
    he didn't cheat as much as Hamilton.

    Hamilton spent a large part of his first season cheating.
    [/quote]

    This is a massively pro Ferrari statement! OK Mclaren were found guilty of having technical documentation on the Ferrari car and were found to have similar technology on their car which is why they were thrown out of the constructors championship but your naive if you think it doesn't go on in the whole paddock.

    You think that there are 10+ teams all running completely different technologies that manage to lap a 2-3 mile track within tenths of a second of each other?
    You will find that it happens in every team - the only difference is that because it was a team that could challenge Ferrari on the track a big deal was made of it.

    If it was Force India for instance then nothing would be said.

    I also don't get the dislike for a British team/driver and the love for an italian team?

    [/quote]

    exactly, every team strives and develops the perfect car, which means they're all working towards the same car just in different directions and by different means.

    they all copy each others designs, they all want to know what each other is doing and they all want the same thing.

    maclaren/alonso just did the silly thing of being very blatant about gathering the info
     
  6. HC

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    They should all have the same cars with the same tyres. That'd make it far more interesting anyway.
     
  7. Oncy

    Oncy Guest

    You clearly havnt sat through an a1gp race.
     
  8. Rouge Penguin

    Rouge Penguin Very Active Member

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    A1GP is as exciting as watching a hot turd fester.
     
  9. HC

    HC Very Well-Known Member

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    Is that one where it's nations racing each other ?

    Nah, not seen it.
     
  10. mark1975

    mark1975 Moderator Moderator

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    [quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=26842.msg683803#msg683803 date=1222383958]
    They should all have the same cars with the same tyres. That'd make it far more interesting anyway.
    [/quote]

    It really wouldn't, cars going exactly the same speed, breaking at exactly the same point, going round the corner the exact same way = even less overtaking and entertainment than F1
     
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    okay,okay.

    Final offer: Boudica wheels?
     
  12. Rafanomenon

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    [quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=26842.msg683803#msg683803 date=1222383958]
    They should all have the same cars with the same tyres. That'd make it far more interesting anyway.
    [/quote]

    They do all use the same tyres now - this season they are only allowed to use Bridgestone which surprisingly gave Ferrari (and a few other uncompetative teams) a march on the teams who previously used Michelins.

    All of them using the same cars would make it the same as A1GP which is shite, F1 would lose the glamour it currently has as I don't think a generic car would bring in the top sponsors like it does now with Ferrari, Mercedes and BMW etc....

    It needs to stay as it is but the FIA need to be careful they don't show any more biased towards the red team!!
     
  13. mike2903

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    [quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=26842.msg684111#msg684111 date=1222428516]
    okay,okay.

    Final offer: Boudica wheels?
    [/quote]

    I think as good as it sounds, that one would stay in the suggestions box.
     
  14. Rosco

    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    [quote author=Rafanomenon link=topic=26842.msg683356#msg683356 date=1222346207]
    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=26842.msg682848#msg682848 date=1222290253]
    he didn't cheat as much as Hamilton.

    Hamilton spent a large part of his first season cheating.
    [/quote]

    This is a massively pro Ferrari statement! OK Mclaren were found guilty of having technical documentation on the Ferrari car and were found to have similar technology on their car which is why they were thrown out of the constructors championship but your naive if you think it doesn't go on in the whole paddock.

    You think that there are 10+ teams all running completely different technologies that manage to lap a 2-3 mile track within tenths of a second of each other?
    You will find that it happens in every team - the only difference is that because it was a team that could challenge Ferrari on the track a big deal was made of it.

    If it was Force India for instance then nothing would be said.

    I also don't get the dislike for a British team/driver and the love for an italian team?

    [/quote]

    How is it a pro Ferrari statement ?

    I don't like any F1 teams. Hamilton cheated and got caught, that's not pro Ferrari that's a fact.
     
  15. Rafanomenon

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    The whole cheating scandal was pro-Ferrari in that if it had happened to anyone else, which it does all the time, nowhere near as much fuss would have been made about it.

    There is also no evidence that Hamilton had any knowledge of the technical information Mclaren had and to say he cheated through most of the season is a stain on his performances which made for some of the best and most exciting races for a good 5 or 6 years.
     
  16. mike2903

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    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=26842.msg684778#msg684778 date=1222516268]
    [quote author=Rafanomenon link=topic=26842.msg683356#msg683356 date=1222346207]
    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=26842.msg682848#msg682848 date=1222290253]
    he didn't cheat as much as Hamilton.

    Hamilton spent a large part of his first season cheating.
    [/quote]

    This is a massively pro Ferrari statement! OK Mclaren were found guilty of having technical documentation on the Ferrari car and were found to have similar technology on their car which is why they were thrown out of the constructors championship but your naive if you think it doesn't go on in the whole paddock.

    You think that there are 10+ teams all running completely different technologies that manage to lap a 2-3 mile track within tenths of a second of each other?
    You will find that it happens in every team - the only difference is that because it was a team that could challenge Ferrari on the track a big deal was made of it.

    If it was Force India for instance then nothing would be said.

    I also don't get the dislike for a British team/driver and the love for an italian team?

    [/quote]

    How is it a pro Ferrari statement ?

    I don't like any F1 teams. Hamilton cheated and got caught, that's not pro Ferrari that's a fact.
    [/quote]

    Alonso started the cheating/info gathering with respect to 'red cars' standing weight and dimensions.
     
  17. Rouge Penguin

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    Ha ha ha, obv not from Mac. but funny


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  18. mike2903

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    Haha, that's so true
     
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    ha ha thats funny rouge and true ;D
     
  20. Rafanomenon

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    Does anyone else think that the stewards have once again assisted Ferrari's quest to have this years champion driver?

    A 25 fucking second penalty for Sebastian Bourdais for driving round the first corner after leaving the pits and being hit by Massa who should have yielded the line is a disgrace - their bias is becoming too obvouos now and more people will start to notice it.

    And don't get me started on Hamiltons penalty - there has never been a penatly given out for an incident on the first corner before but because it is Mclaren.....

    Fucking bollocks it is!
     

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