Poll How many points will be needed to win the league
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No, max wins will be 12 for us, the rest will be draws, and potentially on worse side 3 losses
We have 9 home games left, including all of the bottom three.
Realistically we need 7-8 wins out of these if our away form will be hit and miss. If one of these wins is the game against City, then I think its properly game on. We need Anfield to be our fortress.
I think our second half of the season points needs to at least equal our first half. First half was 42 points, I think we need to be getting over 88/89 points.
6 draws at the half way stage is a lot. On a positive side they are games we avoided defeat, but many games in there that we should have won and had already a borderline unassailable lead. We have plenty of time to learn that lesson.
- Chelsea
- Burnley
- Luton
- City
- Brighton
- Sheffield United
- Palace
- Spurs
- Wolves
Realistically we need 7-8 wins out of these if our away form will be hit and miss. If one of these wins is the game against City, then I think its properly game on. We need Anfield to be our fortress.
I think our second half of the season points needs to at least equal our first half. First half was 42 points, I think we need to be getting over 88/89 points.
6 draws at the half way stage is a lot. On a positive side they are games we avoided defeat, but many games in there that we should have won and had already a borderline unassailable lead. We have plenty of time to learn that lesson.
25 wins, 10 draws 3 losses equals 85 points? @moron are you saying its a 2 horse race?
City can get a maximum of 97 points from here, they won't but they could. Allowing for a defeat a couple of draws they probably drop 9 or 10 points of the 57 remaining and finish around 88 points. Genuinely don't see them getting to 90 points.
I think 89 wins it for us, maybe less if we can turn them over at Anfield. 14 Wins 3 Draws and 1 Defeat from the last 18 gets us over the line I reckon. We probably need 8 wins from 9 home games to do it.
I think 89 wins it for us, maybe less if we can turn them over at Anfield. 14 Wins 3 Draws and 1 Defeat from the last 18 gets us over the line I reckon. We probably need 8 wins from 9 home games to do it.
It all depends on City and whether they can turn it up second half of the season.
We are more susceptible to draws and them to losses but they are likely to win more games.
If the points awarded were 2 points for a draw and 4 points for a win we would have won more titles on the occasion we came 2nd. I still see that model is worth considering, that there should be some more of a gulf between a draw and a loss
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That's why they changed it. I still remember a time when a win was worth 2 points.
Getting a point for a draw didn't feel that bad back then.
You still have a 2 point difference between a win and a draw. 4 points between win and a loss
Fine, make it 5 for a win
We play them in the middle of this run for City:
Chelsea (H)
Bournemouth (A)
United (H)
CL second leg
Liverpool (A)
Brighton (A)
Arsenal (H)
Villa (H)
Let's hope they've been given a tough test in the games up until ours, and that we take the three points and leave them rattled going into three tough fixtures afterwards.
Let's hope that Chelsea and Arsenal go there and close shop and Brighton and B'mouth manage to get something.
I'd guess something between 83-86 will take the league title. Nobody is outrightly as strong as last season and the top five will finish more compressed. I'm cautious of a City's endless winning streak in the second half of the year, but it's not inevitable. After a treble last year, and playing in the World Club Cup (or whatever it's called), I'd still expect some inconsistency and fatigue. It's going to be a great watch for any neutral as well as ourselves. The majority would have settled for the top four this year, so anything is a bonus.
City will take the cheque book out, and address their flaws.
They play Copenhagen in the Champions League so the tie will probably be over before the second leg unfortunately.
You're still making draws more valuable than they are now by doing that. A win is worth 2.5x a draw in your world, and it's 3x now. The idea, which was a good one, was to lessen the importance of draws and losses. If anything should consider giving more points for wins or bonuses for more goals or something like that, rather than increasing the importance of draws.
Reminds you of your mum and your nan?
The right answer is 6 for a win, 2 for a draw and zero for a defeat.
Bonus points for scoring even when you lose would be excellent.
Duh again
So the same as 3 for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a win then?
Oh, wait ...
Right now, we aint winning it whatever we do.
No as a draw is worth 2 more than a loss.
I was trying to insinuate that his mum and nan were fat.
88 = Bingo term for two fat ladies. (88 rhymes with overweight or something).
Not funny I know.
It's the same, you're just doubling everyone's points the currently get. Everyone would have precisely twice as much as they have now, the gaps would be twice as much, but the league table would look exactly the same, it'd make no difference other than that.
Hang on, we have 13 wins to City's 12 (played one game less). 1 defeat (robbed by VAR at Spurs) to City's 4 defeats. So as it stands it's clear that for wins there's nothing in it however we tend to draw games City lose. Long may it continue.
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