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Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by King Binny, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. King Binny

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    Grujic made his first start for Porto and was subbed out at HT as Porto trail Pacos de Ferreira 2-1. They lost 3-2 eventually. 5 points behind leaders Benfica, who have a game in hand.
     
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    Starts for Ojo and Elliot


    No Woodburn for Blackpool
     
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    Awoniyi starts for Union Berlin vs. Hoffenheim. Karius still missing through injury


    Adam Lewis on the bench
     
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    Cardiff 3-0 Barnsley. I think we can fetch a good fee for Wilson after this season. Besides scoring, he earned the penalty for their 2nd goal.


    Earning the penalty @ 0:51 min
    Goal @ 1:30 min


    Blackburn 0-0 Middlesbrough. Elliot played the full match.
     
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    Article: Toronto signed Liverpool defender Tony Gallacher on loan in September after he impressed during a scouting mission for another full-back.

    And general manager Ali Curtis has not ruled out landing the 21-year-old Scottish youth international on a permanent deal when the agreement expires next month.


    Gallacher joined Toronto midway through the rearranged Major League Soccer [MLS] season - which was halted due to the outbreak of coronavirus - with the regular campaign set to conclude this weekend.

    Toronto sit second in the Eastern Conference, level on points with leaders Philadelphia, and face New York Red Bulls in their final game on Sunday.

    Gallacher is guaranteed to be part of the squad who appear in the play-offs, which begin on November 20, but Curtis revealed the Liverpool prospect was originally spotted while tracking another target.

    Head coach Greg Vanney and British-born director of scouting operations Jack Dodd were searching the under-23 Premier League 2 for potential options after Dodd previously worked as a Liverpool academy scout for five years.

    “It wasn’t about just scouting the u-23 Premier League, it was more about, 'What position are we looking at?'" Curtis told MLSsoccer.com.

    "We were looking at the full-back position, then through the relationship from our head scout, we got Tony’s name. It was actually through scouting a different player, we saw Tony and thought wow, he’s a talented player who might fit really well.”

    Gallacher, who joined Liverpool from Falkirk in 2018, has forced his way into the team under Vanney and started the previous two fixtures.

    Curtis, speaking in September, admitted there is potential for him to stay longer in Canada as the MLS becomes a 'destination around the globe'.

    “We think there’s a future," he said. "Tony gets an opportunity to experience our environment to see what it’s like, the city, the culture, the league and the tactics.

    "At the end of the year if there’s a strong enough relationship with the club and player, we'll have a conversation about what the future looks like.”

    Curtis added. "Every year, MLS becomes more of a destination around the globe. We’re a club that has won a lot of different championships with big players, so I think that helps.”

    Gallacher made his senior Liverpool debut in the Carabao Cup quarter-final against Aston Villa last season but remained coy about his immediate future.

    "For me, right now, I'm thinking about games," he said. "That's what I need. Academy football at Liverpool for me was good for my development but I'm at a point in my career where games is the main thing.

    "Right now it's hard to tell the future, what it will hold, because no-one really knows right now. I'm taking it a game at a time, a training session at a time, and I'm just happy to be here getting first-team games and competing for trophies.

    "It is something I've not had in a while so I'm really glad to be here."
     
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    Wilson played the full match and Ojo featured for 63 mins as Cardiff lost 1-0 at home to Bristol City


    Karius and Awoniyi on the bench for Union Berlin vs. Arminia Bielefeld today. 2-0 after 15 mins.


    Elliot starts again for Blackburn
     
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    Blackburn 2-1 QPR after 73mins. Elliot with the assist for the goal that gives them the lead.
     
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    Was wondering why Woodburn hasn't been featuring for Blackpool. Just saw this dated 31 Oct 2020.

    Article: Liverpool loanee Ben Woodburn has tested positive for Covid-19, Blackpool FC have announced.

    The 21-year-old will subsequently miss today's game against Burton Albion at the Pirelli Stadium and will begin a period of self-isolation.

    In a statement, the club said Woodburn had displayed "mild symptoms" of the virus.

    "We can confirm that Ben Woodburn has returned a positive test for COVID-19," the club said.

    "In line with EFL protocols, the player, who has displayed mild symptoms of the virus, has now entered a period of self-isolation, before being tested again at a later date.

    "The club would like to wish Ben a speedy recovery and looks forward to welcoming him back to training in due course."

    Woodburn has made three appearances for the Seasiders since joining the club on loan from Liverpool.
     
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    Mowbray on looking after Harvey Elliott, Liverpool & Rovers
    https://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/18872452.mowbray-looking-harvey-elliott-liverpool-rovers
    Article: There are plenty of benefits in helping nurture one of the country’s top young talents, but so too a responsibility.

    Not 18 until April, Harvey Elliott is dropped off at the club’s Brockhall training base every day, while after each away game, Rovers must ensure a taxi is ready and waiting to pick him up.

    Then there’s the educational side of still, technically, being a second-year scholar, with maths and English programmes to complete.
    For Tony Mowbray, Elliott speaks the language of football and his numbers on the pitch are certainly stacking up.

    ‘If you’re good enough you’re old enough’ and ‘age is but a number’ are two of the oldest analogies going. But with Elliott, it is worth reminding yourself how young he is.

    Stewart Downing re-signed for Rovers earlier this month, the 36-year-old having made his senior debut for Middlesbrough a year before Elliott was born.

    Yet only a month into his time at Ewood Park, his loan move already looks one that will benefit all parties. Liverpool are taking an active interest, unsurprising given what an asset Elliott is, with Jurgen Klopp regularly keeping abreast of his progress by watching online streams, and coaching staff paying regular visits into Mowbray’s office.

    On the pitch, Elliott has played every minute of Rovers’ last five fixtures, that owing to his talent on the pitch however, rather than any clauses which means that has to happen.

    With a third assist to his name in Rovers’ win over QPR, adding to his goal against Coventry City, Mowbray feels there is even more to come from the teenager.

    “I’ve been talking to him and I think he needs to be a bit more selfish in the box,” he said.

    “Having spoken to the staff at Liverpool, they feel as if he sees himself as an assist-maker rather than a goalscorer. And ultimately, any top, top player, you have to look at their statistics as the season unfolds. How many assists, how many goals do you get?

    “If he is going to play up front for us, at the moment, he’s playing in the front three, if in 20 games, he’s only had three assists and one goal, it’s probably not going to be enough for Liverpool to look at him and think he can come in our team and do this.

    “Adam Armstrong has set up three or four but he’s scored 11. Ben Brereton has scored two but he assisted a couple more the other week. So, when you add your assists and goals up you know Harvey is going to want to score more. He’s scored once and he’s got amazing feeling in his feet.”

    The likelihood is that Elliott’s time at Ewood Park will be solely for the duration of his season-long loan. Indeed, here is a player who already has seven first-team appearances to his name for the Reds, and were things to have panned out differently with Xherdan Shaqiri in the summer, would still be at Anfield.

    Rovers’ relationship with Liverpool has developed closely in recent times, with two friendlies in the past three years, and enquiries having been made about players in windows gone by, such as Curtis Jones. And that’s what gave Rovers the advantage when Liverpool agreed to sanction a move, one Elliott rubber-stamped in a bid to further his experiences.

    “We know he’s a Liverpool player and I’m sure he’s going to enjoy his time with our club and develop as a footballer,” Mowbray explained.

    “We send players down the leagues to get experience of playing men’s football, of listening to different managers, to feel what it means to the rest of the team to play well and win a game.

    “I’m sure he sits there sometimes and thinks this is a million miles away from Liverpool because they never give the ball away, they know when to play forward, their strikers make better runs but he’s a really humble lad, that was my first opinion of him.

    “He’s come in, joined in and he is hoping he can help our team win some football matches.”


    While there was great excitement among the Rovers fanbase when news broke on deadline day that a deal was being worked on, for outsiders, it brought a great deal of intrigue.

    Just how had this come about, and how would someone at such a tender age fare? The early signs on the latter are universally positive, while the former come down to relationships, opportunities, and geography.

    “We made contact with Liverpool. We’re in the north west, Man City are in the north west, Man United, Liverpool, it’s important we have contact with those clubs,” Mowbray said.

    “I hope Elliott’s with us because Liverpool trust us with their young players.

    “Liverpool will watch his games and they will have an opinion and what he needs to work on.

    “I’m sure lots of clubs asked about him, but because we’re in the north west he doesn’t have to go and live in digs or stay in a hotel, he can stay at home.”


    There will always be intricacies to contend with when discussing any player, but a 17-year-old England youth international on loan from the Premier League champions does add its own details.

    They include his educational requirements, as well as his welfare of being 17, but on the football pitch, there are no concerns.

    “He’s 17-years-old, he’s an adolescent, yet the talent is there to see,” Mowbray enthused.

    And that talent was displayed with his weight of pass to create Rovers’ second goal in the win over QPR, as it was in his assists for Armstrong against Reading and Sam Gallagher at Coventry.

    As with any player under Mowbray, they will be required to do the hard yards off the ball, though coming from Liverpool, well known for their pressing game under Klopp, that’s nothing new for the teenager currently away on England Under-19s duty.

    On the ball, there is a glint in Mowbray’s eye when it comes to discussing Elliott’s qualities.

    “Harvey Elliott just brings a bit of everything. Decision making, weight of pass, when to keep it, when to play forward. Some of the deliveries from set pieces are just begging to be headed or put into the net.

    “You can see the quality of the kid. It’s amazing to think he is so young. We are delighted we have him. He’s a really refreshing and nice lad to work with.

    “He asks questions.

    “He understands football and we are delighted that he’s here.”


    Working under Klopp, Elliott will feel ‘safe, according to Mowbray, who says the German’s character that shines through in television interviews is the same in person.

    He is certain that in time Elliott will become a huge star for the Reds, but in the meantime, Rovers will look to play a part in nurturing that path, as well as reaping the benefits of his talents.

    “Jurgen really likes Harvey Elliott but with total respect we’re talking about the Premier League and European champions and it’s difficult for him to impact on that team at 17,” the Rovers boss said.

    “They wanted him to get experience and play on a regular basis which is what we’ll hopefully allow him to do.

    “He’ll be a huge asset for Liverpool and I’m sure they wanted to make sure he’ll be in the right environment and if they don’t they’d take him out of it.

    “I have to look after Blackburn Rovers but at this moment it’s benefitting all parties for this young boy to be playing in our first-team and affecting results.

    “You can see he’s a people person and this young boy will feel very safe in Jurgen’s hands.”

     
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    Wilson starts, Ojo on the bench


    Elliot in the starting XI


    Woodburn on the bench after quarantine
     
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    Taiwo Awoniyi started and scored for Union Berlin. Karius on the bench.
     
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    Hope Harvey Elliott is OK.
    Just checked livescore and apparently he was subbed on then subbed off after 20 mins.
     
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    Just a boot to the knee by the sound of things:

    Rovers hope the knee injury to Harvey Elliott that forced him off at Preston North End isn’t anything more than a bruise.
    Liverpool winger Elliott wasn’t included in the starting line-up for the first time since joining on a season-long loan deal on deadline day but was sent on with Rovers 2-0 up on the hour mark.
    His pass helped create the third goal, scored by Tyrhys Dolan on his return to Deepdale, but he received treatment shortly afterwards following a strong challenge by Ryan Ledson.
    The teenager was able to hobble off, but Rovers took no chances, with John Buckley replacing him for the closing stages.
    Elliott will be assessed ahead of the weekend visit of Barnsley, but Mowbray is hopeful that the injury won’t prove to be anything serious.
    He said: “The early news is that we hope it’s just a kick.
    “It’s come up pretty quickly, a bruise, but it doesn’t look like it’s badly damaged.
    “When you think of a knee injury you think of ligaments but it doesn’t seem to be anything like that.

    “Just a pretty severe kick and we’re hoping that’s all it is.
    “People like Harvey Elliott cannot play every three days.





     
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    Wilson in starting XI, Ojo on bench
     
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    Grujic starts against Marseille
     
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    HT - Cardiff 2-0 Luton, Wilson and Ojo each with an assist
     
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    Elliot and Woodburn subbed out after 66 mins and 61 mins respectively.

    2 assists for Wilson, 1 goal and 1 assist for Ojo
     
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    Still think we could have used as big a squad as possible this year. I wouldnt have let anyone leave that could be played without being specifically registered.
     

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