But still you are the only one to mention it. You obviously believe that we are in the shit and this season and since you believe the klopp out threads will start are looking at a 7th or place finish or worse
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It doesn’t tell you the full story. Have a modestly fit squad and we start
Alisson
Trent
Kanoute
Van Dijk
Robertson
Fabinho
Thiago
Elliott
Salah
Jota/Nunez
Diaz
That’s 6 players who were not here 4 seasons ago.
It tells the right story though. We have too many ageing past their sell by date players that we are having to play because we don't have a modestly fit squad. And with our depth, it doesn't take more than a couple injuries to end up relying on these guys.
It does. That would mean our bench has that experience to see out a game. Henderson, Milner, Firmino and Gomez would look a handy bench.
We aren’t looking at one or two out and it all falls down. We have 5 genuine starting XI players out. That would hurt anyone.
Everyone keeps talking down Jones, but don't any of you guys remember the great impact he had in that pandemic season where he was the only positive, in terms of driving the midfield forward. Then he got that injury late in that season and we never saw him again or was given a run of games last season to get some form. Let's be honest, we lack impact players in that midfield that can carry that ball or make something happen without everyone having to run around like crazy and knacker themselves out. The team is too old.
Konate would start against a pacey front line. He started the champions league. And your original comment didn’t include Matip anyway.
Elliott started over Henderson against Palace.
It is more fluid than one or the other with Nunez/Jota.
Sorry, just don't agree with that take on it.
You don't build a squad to see a game out. You build a squad so you have viable alternatives. We don't have them. We can barely rotate let alone cope with injuries.
In your starting XI, 7/11 spots were filled by first choice players and another was left out by choice.
The only thing that I disagree with here is "Ox and Keita should have been moved on years ago," The Ox should have been moved on two, maybe three seasons ago
Think this season is gone as far as the title is concerned.
Yes City or whoever wins the title will not find things as easy to win games. But will should start planing for next season and who we want to buy and sell from now
If I ran any organisation like that, i might as well just pack my bags and shut it down.
But people need a place to vent their frustrations...the sentiment here will change when Nunez comes back and scores a hattrick.
Yes it is. It only fails when he's not complimented by those around him. He did his bit in tracking two players, he gave those around him enough time to then close in on the United players, but they didn't and were made to look like chumps. He was our best midfielder against Palace and our most effective defensively, he tracked back everything and won the ball back for us a few times when Palace were looking to break. He's not the most physically dominating player, but he makes up for that in awareness and being quick to spot danger. It's not his fault that more experienced players around him are well off their game.
Put him in a midfield with a fit Fabinho and Thiago and he'll be perfect. And saying he lacks speed is utter fucking bollocks, he's quicker than Henderson, Thiago and Fabinho. "We watch the game you know". He's probably been our best midfielder this season, which is as much about his own qualities as it is about the failings of others.
It really isn't. I don't think we have the quality to win the title, but all this making predictions after three games is FIFA generation bollocks. We've fucked up, if anyone can put it right it's Klopp. Jeez. I'm far from a happy clappy super fan, but some of you bellends need to get a grip.
Fannies the lot of you.
We were 14.... Yep 14 points behind city in January.
Keep the faith, trust the big bearded cuddly German and we will be fine.
Christ almighty, fist sign of trouble and half of you are lighting the flares.
Dig deep, locate your balls and paddle.
We were 14.... Yep 14 points behind city in January.
Keep the faith, trust the big bearded cuddly German and we will be fine.
Christ almighty, fist sign of trouble and half of you are lighting the flares.
Dig deep, locate your balls and paddle.
That’s missing more than a quarter of the first choice. It’s 40% of the outfield team. I think you build a squad capable of challenging and that includes swapping one or two out when needed and using your bench to its fullest. You need those who are in decline to come of the bench and give it their all for 30 minutes and mentor those younger players in the squad.
We can’t have 22 top tier players that are 21-27 years old so you can just replace like for like. Unless you are paying absolute top dollar. We don’t have the money for it and never will.
Swapping out Henderson for Thiago is fine. Then Firmino for Jota that’s okay, we should be able to beat most of the league. But doing it for 4 or more positions is not something you plan for. Otherwise you’d have a bloated squad full of players kicking off at not getting enough game time.
Herpes?
I don´t think he has the attributes to start in a midfield three. It exposes us too much. A midfield which already has to cover for Trent and make the work for our high line work, amongst other things.
He is starting due to injuries, which is understandable. As one of the three in a 4231, I´d have no problems with him starting.
I still don't get this thing of playing Elliott on the right of midfield. Inverted wingers make sense but inverted midfielders is a weird concept to me. When he gets through in a little channel he always has to make the crucial final ball with his wrong foot. And he's always biased towards building play down the win, rather than moving infield.
Anyway, I think it's clear we desperately need more pace in midfield. Time for the nuclear option of trying Trent there.
Fabinho holding, Trent right, Elliott left. Not like we've got that much to lose until Thiago is back.
We should sell Firmino if we can. He seems to be basically useless at this point.
Anyway, I think it's clear we desperately need more pace in midfield. Time for the nuclear option of trying Trent there.
Fabinho holding, Trent right, Elliott left. Not like we've got that much to lose until Thiago is back.
We should sell Firmino if we can. He seems to be basically useless at this point.
Imagine had the spaz not been a spaz last week. As useless as I think he is, he’s better than Firmino.
Yeah. The dirty bastard
I also have so me good advice for you all - don’t get through a bottle of Bandol Rose and Cote du Rhone red at dinner before smashing 5 pints of various local Parisien IPA within hours of stepping off a 24 hour flight from Australia.
I feel like Thiago today…
I feel like Thiago today…
the spaz being Nunez?
I just thought it was interesting - I don't think it's so usual to be able to field so close to the same team from 4 years ago even if it's not 'first choice'
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