Mendy not guilty
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Obviously, at the same time allegations doesnt necessarily equal guilt.
Yeah, his moral conduct is questionable and I kinda believe he brought this shit on himself, but what if he actually is innocent?
This is not right.
Do we need a fullback?
Do we need a fullback?
Hahaha
A short term deal on the basis he can get himself fully back up to scratch wouldn't be the worst thing ever I suppose.
If you sleep with over 10k women as he has claimed then it’s no surprise a couple have pressed charges.
Yep. I think he's innocent. (and rightly found not guilty).
I don't think there's a man out there, who has slept with over 30 women, who hasn't been accused of some form of abuse, whether it be physical, emotional or financial.
He's slept with over 1000 women, so of course, he was going to run into a couple of mad women who would accuse him of some shit.
In a way, you can say, it's a numbers game and he brought it upon himself.
I don't think there's a man out there, who has slept with over 30 women, who hasn't been accused of some form of abuse, whether it be physical, emotional or financial.
He's slept with over 1000 women, so of course, he was going to run into a couple of mad women who would accuse him of some shit.
In a way, you can say, it's a numbers game and he brought it upon himself.
A 10,001-some
Add 9,000.
I think its somewhere in between. He obviously has a predator type lifestyle in meeting new girls every day, and I’m guessing his body language and approach is borderline what is okay in terms of me too.
He has been found innocent and you cant take that away from him, but there are probably a lot of incidents that arent okay.
His footballing career for a top club is over anyway.
He has been found innocent and you cant take that away from him, but there are probably a lot of incidents that arent okay.
His footballing career for a top club is over anyway.
There is a designation they have in Scottish courts between not guilty and innocent which is 'not proven'. There was enough in this case for the CPS to think it passed the threshold and for a tranche of girls to come out and claim to have been raped. What is totally clear he and his creepy mate clearly systematically preyed on young women. To turn Ibro's numbers game on its head, they fully expected to be able to fuck women as and when they wanted, and no doubt there would have been cases (as alleged) where the girls didn't like the situation they found themselves in and said no, and that Mendy and his pal's clear and obvious lack of respect for women over-rode that. He'll get a gig somewhere, but I've zero sympathy.
Only 2 percent of cases reach a charging decision. Less than that again reach convictions. And that's largely with people without a the best legal team money can buy.
People lay feel it unfair but under that context doubts will always persist about the innocence or accused rapists. It's clear many are out there walking free.
As for Mendys footballing career I couldn't really give a shit. Some Saudi club will likely come in for him.
People lay feel it unfair but under that context doubts will always persist about the innocence or accused rapists. It's clear many are out there walking free.
As for Mendys footballing career I couldn't really give a shit. Some Saudi club will likely come in for him.
You worded that so much better than me, mate. My thoughts exactly.
From the outset it looked unprovable.
Review the reports and admitted behaviour of the girls that brought cases. They all put themselves into situations where sex was obviously part and parcel of the game being played.
These were not naive girls at a friends party / club who found themselves in situations beyond their control. Age doesn't come into it, they are all adults and well aware of the very predictable outcome of partying and going home to stay overnight at these guys' homes.
Mendy & Co. certainly attempted to have sex with many women including these, however, although having absolutely no sympathy with or for Mendy, from the evidence we have seen, to me these women just seem like gold diggers who saw a way to take advantage for a big pay day, especially once the first girl had made a claim. Any celebrity / affluent male takes that risk nowadays and these guys made themselves easy targets.
There's no way to prove it either way (he said she said) but these girls, whose admitted actions were far from naive & innocent, had already put themselves into situations where sex was expected and in most cases desired and freely given. The usual groupie mentality.
Of course there's almost no way of knowing if that was the case with all these girls and regardless no means no and previous sexual encounters with Mendy & Co. doesn't mean permission was given in those specific situations but the fact the jury came to such speedy verdicts, in all cases, would seem to support such a conclusion.
This opinion pertains to these cases and isn't universally transferable.
Review the reports and admitted behaviour of the girls that brought cases. They all put themselves into situations where sex was obviously part and parcel of the game being played.
These were not naive girls at a friends party / club who found themselves in situations beyond their control. Age doesn't come into it, they are all adults and well aware of the very predictable outcome of partying and going home to stay overnight at these guys' homes.
Mendy & Co. certainly attempted to have sex with many women including these, however, although having absolutely no sympathy with or for Mendy, from the evidence we have seen, to me these women just seem like gold diggers who saw a way to take advantage for a big pay day, especially once the first girl had made a claim. Any celebrity / affluent male takes that risk nowadays and these guys made themselves easy targets.
There's no way to prove it either way (he said she said) but these girls, whose admitted actions were far from naive & innocent, had already put themselves into situations where sex was expected and in most cases desired and freely given. The usual groupie mentality.
Of course there's almost no way of knowing if that was the case with all these girls and regardless no means no and previous sexual encounters with Mendy & Co. doesn't mean permission was given in those specific situations but the fact the jury came to such speedy verdicts, in all cases, would seem to support such a conclusion.
This opinion pertains to these cases and isn't universally transferable.
He has not been found "innocent" he has been found "not guilty"
I respect the fact that you're calling it as you see it. Too many people are afraid to call out these women as gold diggers.
Although I'm not aware of the details in this case, I find it difficult to believe that a star football player would be going around raping women. I've had friends who lived the football life and the stories they've told me were wild. Women throw themselves at them. They come to games, parties, EVEN training sessions.
My friend told me that someone usually had a "fixer" when they were travelling. This "fixer" would call a bunch of girls who'd come and party with them and most of the time they weren't even escorts. Just regular Instagram girls wanting drinks and clout ( fame).
Yes.
And some of these girls expect money/gifts when you fuck them. But when you chew them up and spit them out like Mendy did, all of a sudden they feel like they've been abused.
From a pure numbers POV, if the man has slept with over 10,000 women. Even if 10 accused him of rape (which it only seemed like 1 originally, then another 9 piled on, but only 3 i think went to court).
Then you're looking at 0.1% of women he's slept with accusing him of rape and 99.9% not.
It appears to me that he and his friends were inconsiderate sluts who ran through women with flagrant disregard of their feelings. Chewed them up and spit them out. Some of these women probably expected more (financially/status-wise) from sleeping with a footballer. He may have even lied about his feeling for them to get them in bed. And thus they feel like they slept with him under false premises/expectations and feel abused. When really they're gold diggers who just got played themselves by a dickhead.
Just like there are many rapists out there who are ruled innocent, I am guessing there are equally as many men who have been falsely accused of rape/SA and found guilty, by women who simply changed their minds about the experience after they had had sex.
Spot on
Something tells me you're speaking from experience Ibro you dirty little minx!!!
Lmao.
I've run into some INSANE women recently, that it's given me perspective on some of these things.
Heck, to a point where I feel like all men should install cameras in their own house to avoid such accusations of assault.
Aye if only it were all that affordable for us.
Stephen Bear actually went down for 2 years for just that, he had a camera which filmed he and this other reality tv chick shagging in their garden...but he took it to the next level by distributing that on his only fans for money lol.
But generally I agree, if you're that guy that likes sleeping around with tonnes of women then you gotta ride the high risk that they'll see an opportunity down the line to grass you up very connivingly.
I know somebody who knows one of the “victims” and my understanding is that it wasn’t motivated by any feeling of bitterness or being used. She is still very distressed by the whole experience.
That’s not to say he’s guilty though. It’s hard to know. The culture around footballers is very problematic in terms of the expectation that they can get anything and anyone they want. And yeah, some of the people (women) surrounding them are total vultures.
That’s not to say he’s guilty though. It’s hard to know. The culture around footballers is very problematic in terms of the expectation that they can get anything and anyone they want. And yeah, some of the people (women) surrounding them are total vultures.
Though it’s not restricted just to footballers. Celebs in general get treated in a way that isn’t normal so it’s not hard to see how a person in that position could view consent differently to you or I. They are used to people doing things for them and to be around them that just isn’t normal.
I find it disturbing that a person can be found not guilty of something and yet we're still told to presume some form of guilt, and it's just that "they couldn't be proven guilty, but it doesn't make them innocent". But yet by the same measure, had that person been found guilty of a crime that they didn't actually commit, those same people would not be saying "well, it's possible that he's in fact innocent and they got it wrong".
Either way, Mendy is now tainted goods. There's always going to be a nagging suspicion over his head. Any girl that accuses him or anything now, whether be physical or emotional abuse, it's going to be under a greater microscope. Even as much as I can try and sympathise with him as a man found not guilty, even I have to have some nagging suspicions over him going forward.
If he is the victim in this case, he's going to forever live under a shadow, whilst the accusers, walk away without much damage or suspicion to their name/image.
If he is in fact a rapist, I hope karma catches up to him and he slips up eventually, and he gets what is coming to him.
But regardless, if he was found guilty, the book would be thrown at him. Now he's found not guilty, we're not supposed to sympathise with the man and still consider him a criminal who just got away with it?
It's the double standards that I just don't like...
Forget Mendy, as he seems be a prick, I am more upset that no one seems to care about men's mental health when they are falsely accused of a "he said, she said" crime, but everyone is there to protect a woman's health. Don't the feminists proclaim us to be equal genders? Are we not looking for equality in society? Shouldn't both parties be treated equal, until the facts are heard/played out?
Either way, Mendy is now tainted goods. There's always going to be a nagging suspicion over his head. Any girl that accuses him or anything now, whether be physical or emotional abuse, it's going to be under a greater microscope. Even as much as I can try and sympathise with him as a man found not guilty, even I have to have some nagging suspicions over him going forward.
If he is the victim in this case, he's going to forever live under a shadow, whilst the accusers, walk away without much damage or suspicion to their name/image.
If he is in fact a rapist, I hope karma catches up to him and he slips up eventually, and he gets what is coming to him.
But regardless, if he was found guilty, the book would be thrown at him. Now he's found not guilty, we're not supposed to sympathise with the man and still consider him a criminal who just got away with it?
It's the double standards that I just don't like...
Forget Mendy, as he seems be a prick, I am more upset that no one seems to care about men's mental health when they are falsely accused of a "he said, she said" crime, but everyone is there to protect a woman's health. Don't the feminists proclaim us to be equal genders? Are we not looking for equality in society? Shouldn't both parties be treated equal, until the facts are heard/played out?
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It's not so much that we should all presume there is some guilt, though I do have sympathy with Wolands point. It's all the sick bandwagon jumping of gold digger accusations against the woman, and the the extension that entrapment behaviour by women is widespread. That is a dangerous path to victim blaming.
The vast majority of rape accusations don't even get to court, as it can be very hard to prove. The accusers are given a traumatic time, on top of the trauma they have already been through, by the authorities to test if they will withstand the further trauma of cross examination and accusations if it does go to court. And then if they do go to court and the case is deemed not proven they are labeled evil gold diggers, which then reinforces the cycle of not reporting or not pursuing cases as the potential abuse and humiliation they face is not worth the risk.
The vast majority of rape accusations don't even get to court, as it can be very hard to prove. The accusers are given a traumatic time, on top of the trauma they have already been through, by the authorities to test if they will withstand the further trauma of cross examination and accusations if it does go to court. And then if they do go to court and the case is deemed not proven they are labeled evil gold diggers, which then reinforces the cycle of not reporting or not pursuing cases as the potential abuse and humiliation they face is not worth the risk.
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