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Quaresma on the cheap?

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by keniget, Apr 7, 2008.

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  1. Sunny

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    [quote author=redfromlondon link=topic=22320.msg535523#msg535523 date=1207592490]
    [quote author=Sunny link=topic=22320.msg535515#msg535515 date=1207592078]
    [quote author=redfromlondon link=topic=22320.msg535493#msg535493 date=1207590580]
    [quote author=Fallon link=topic=22320.msg535473#msg535473 date=1207589527]
    He gets homesick, he wastes opportunties to go forward and stick a cross in because he would rather go down than beat his man and stick a cross in, he can go completely missing in games, he would cost the better part of £20M and there are better (IMO) than him out there.
    [/quote]

    Like who?

    The only two wingers better than him IMO are Ronaldo and Ribery, the rest are either too young or awful in one way or another.

    Quaresma is immensly skillfull, very quick, has a good (not brilliant but good) eye for goal and his crossing is second to none, noone in the world gets the ball in from the angles he does, he is cocky, he is moody and yes he disapears sometimes but alot of players do and I reckon EVRY SINGLE LFC fan will be creaming their pants if we sign him.
    20 mil is a tiny bit steep but didn't united pay 18 mil for Carrick? - hardly the most exciting player in the world.
    [/quote]


    Well, according to this thread I reckon you're probably wrong - as I count at least two who won't be
    [/quote]

    I said, if you read it correctly, that IF WE SIGN HIM. That means when the deals done, he is wearing the red shirt, every fan will be excited, I couldn't care what half of the people on here say when we haven't even got a bid in for him yet.

    Besides, I'm sick of hearing this shite, you obviously dont watch much european footie or else you would clearly know he is an immense talent. His assists are simply staggering.

    And as for he goes missing, judging on what exactly? against Arse last season him and Gonzalez took them apart, against the scum@the bridge he scored and created a handful of chances, against us @ Porto he was decent but like most world class players that come up against Rafas defence, they always look average - Messi, Ronaldinho, Quaresma, Ronaldo (to an extent) Ibrahimovic.
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    You can spout off about your obvious expertise from watching Eurosport now and again but I still think he's overrated. Whether you think it's 'shite' or not I'm simply not that impressed with him. Seems like he can impress against a team that plays open attacking football but when he meets a decent defence he's fucked. I've seen nothing, I repeat - nothing, that would make me want to "cream my pants". I'm sure the lad has talent but I'm not so sure he'd fit in the EPL. I think he's more suited to the continental game.
     
  2. Vlads Quiff

    Vlads Quiff Well-Known Member

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    [quote author=Frogfish link=topic=22320.msg535529#msg535529 date=1207592695]
    He scored a cracker against us VQ ;)
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    Must be a different player then, the one I saw at Anfield looked very ordinary

    regards
     
  3. Vlads Quiff

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    Sunny must be getting muddled up too

    regards
     
  4. rurikbird

    rurikbird Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    I would put Quaresma in the same category as Totti and Ibrahimovic. Players people always rave about, but when you are watching, they never seem to have a good game.
     
  5. Sunny

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    He had a half decent game against us at their place but hardly had us run ragged. At Anfield I thought he was ordinary to say the least. Can't remember him scoring a cracker at our place either. I must be getting old.
     
  6. Fallon

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    [quote author=redfromlondon link=topic=22320.msg535514#msg535514 date=1207592072]
    [quote author=Fallon link=topic=22320.msg535512#msg535512 date=1207591970]
    IMO Silva, he has a better all round game, is faster and scores goals himself.
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    I'd definately say he is close up there but for me, for pure joy and excitement Quaresma wins that.

    I would hate to be Rafa, trying to find a bloody good RW as there are so few of them around.
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    If he played his game all of the time then I would agree, but he will never stop the diving, and the frequency at which he does it negates the wow factor for me.
     
  7. Sheik Yerbouti

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    I was told that a deal was in place to buy him last summer but following a meeting with him, Rafa thought he was a bit of a nutjob and pulled out.
     
  8. SaintGeorge67

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    [quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=22320.msg535544#msg535544 date=1207593209]
    [quote author=Frogfish link=topic=22320.msg535529#msg535529 date=1207592695]
    He scored a cracker against us VQ ;)
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    Must be a different player then, the one I saw at Anfield looked very ordinary

    regards
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    And that's a tad generous.
     
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    [quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=22320.msg535606#msg535606 date=1207597100]
    I was told that a deal was in place to buy him last summer but following a meeting with him, Rafa thought he was a bit of a nutjob and pulled out.
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    I knew we had an offer accepted was not sure why nothing happened.
     
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    QUARESMA IS GOOD
    AARON LENNON HAS THE ABILITY TO BE EVEN BETTER AND HE IS AVAILABLE AS RAMOS IS REBUILDING
     
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    [quote author=digger88 link=topic=22320.msg535695#msg535695 date=1207600577]
    QUARESMA IS GOOD
    AARON LENNON HAS THE ABILITY TO BE EVEN BETTER AND HE IS AVAILABLE AS RAMOS IS REBUILDING
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    No need to shout.
     
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    [quote author=digger88 link=topic=22320.msg535695#msg535695 date=1207600577]
    QUARESMA IS GOOD
    AARON LENNON HAS THE ABILITY TO BE EVEN BETTER AND HE IS AVAILABLE AS RAMOS IS REBUILDING
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    . . . .
     
  13. Skullflower

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    [quote author=digger88 link=topic=22320.msg535695#msg535695 date=1207600577]
    QUARESMA IS GOOD
    AARON LENNON HAS THE ABILITY TO BE EVEN BETTER AND HE IS AVAILABLE AS RAMOS IS REBUILDING
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    i know what you mean, dude.
     
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    [quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=22320.msg535525#msg535525 date=1207592580]

    Not convinced about him myself, I don't think he showed up at the races against us did he? Does that mean he is not a big game player. It's all very well being a trick pony against inferior opposition.
    He is also a diving little twat from what I remember, have I got the right player?
    [/quote]

    You have indeed. But then, those same accusations used to be (and still are) levelled at Ronaldo.

    I wouldn't mind having a player that consistently finishes off the likes of Wigan, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Reading and so forth. We play the shit teams a lot more than we do the good ones.
     
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    [quote author=keniget link=topic=22320.msg535745#msg535745 date=1207601816]
    [quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=22320.msg535525#msg535525 date=1207592580]

    Not convinced about him myself, I don't think he showed up at the races against us did he? Does that mean he is not a big game player. It's all very well being a trick pony against inferior opposition.
    He is also a diving little twat from what I remember, have I got the right player?
    [/quote]

    You have indeed. But then, those same accusations used to be (and still are) levelled at Ronaldo.

    I wouldn't mind having a player that consistently finishes off the likes of Wigan, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Reading and so forth. We play the shit teams a lot more than we do the good ones.[/quote]

    Thats exactly what we need!
     
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    [quote author=keniget link=topic=22320.msg535745#msg535745 date=1207601816]
    [quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=22320.msg535525#msg535525 date=1207592580]

    Not convinced about him myself, I don't think he showed up at the races against us did he? Does that mean he is not a big game player. It's all very well being a trick pony against inferior opposition.
    He is also a diving little twat from what I remember, have I got the right player?
    [/quote]

    You have indeed. But then, those same accusations used to be (and still are) levelled at Ronaldo.

    I wouldn't mind having a player that consistently finishes off the likes of Wigan, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Reading and so forth. We play the shit teams a lot more than we do the good ones.
    [/quote]

    Good points Ken, good points

    regards
     
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    [quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=22320.msg535525#msg535525 date=1207592580]
    [quote author=Sunny link=topic=22320.msg535515#msg535515 date=1207592078]
    [quote author=redfromlondon link=topic=22320.msg535493#msg535493 date=1207590580]
    [quote author=Fallon link=topic=22320.msg535473#msg535473 date=1207589527]
    He gets homesick, he wastes opportunties to go forward and stick a cross in because he would rather go down than beat his man and stick a cross in, he can go completely missing in games, he would cost the better part of £20M and there are better (IMO) than him out there.
    [/quote]

    Like who?

    The only two wingers better than him IMO are Ronaldo and Ribery, the rest are either too young or awful in one way or another.

    Quaresma is immensly skillfull, very quick, has a good (not brilliant but good) eye for goal and his crossing is second to none, noone in the world gets the ball in from the angles he does, he is cocky, he is moody and yes he disapears sometimes but alot of players do and I reckon EVRY SINGLE LFC fan will be creaming their pants if we sign him.
    20 mil is a tiny bit steep but didn't united pay 18 mil for Carrick? - hardly the most exciting player in the world.
    [/quote]


    Well, according to this thread I reckon you're probably wrong - as I count at least two who won't be
    [/quote]

    Not convinced about him myself, I don't think he showed up at the races against us did he? Does that mean he is not a big game player. It's all very well being a trick pony against inferior opposition.
    He is also a diving little twat from what I remember, have I got the right player?


    regards
    [/quote]

    You just wrote his biography, mate.

    He is tricky but displays no heart. I'd hate to think we had to count on him in a pressure cooker like OT or goodison and I reckon he'd spend most of his time on the stretcher when we went to the Reebok etc. You look at Ronaldo and see the similarities but then you have to accept that Ronaldo is probably a one off. He faced his Waterloo and came through it when many of us probably figured he wouldn't. For everyone that comes through that and out the other side there are probably about 50 who don't make it. They just remain those wonderfully talented, full of potential players who never add the substance that a title chasing team requires.
     
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    [quote author=Wizardry link=topic=22320.msg535846#msg535846 date=1207613554]
    [quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=22320.msg535525#msg535525 date=1207592580]
    [quote author=Sunny link=topic=22320.msg535515#msg535515 date=1207592078]
    [quote author=redfromlondon link=topic=22320.msg535493#msg535493 date=1207590580]
    [quote author=Fallon link=topic=22320.msg535473#msg535473 date=1207589527]
    He gets homesick, he wastes opportunties to go forward and stick a cross in because he would rather go down than beat his man and stick a cross in, he can go completely missing in games, he would cost the better part of £20M and there are better (IMO) than him out there.
    [/quote]

    Like who?

    The only two wingers better than him IMO are Ronaldo and Ribery, the rest are either too young or awful in one way or another.

    Quaresma is immensly skillfull, very quick, has a good (not brilliant but good) eye for goal and his crossing is second to none, noone in the world gets the ball in from the angles he does, he is cocky, he is moody and yes he disapears sometimes but alot of players do and I reckon EVRY SINGLE LFC fan will be creaming their pants if we sign him.
    20 mil is a tiny bit steep but didn't united pay 18 mil for Carrick? - hardly the most exciting player in the world.
    [/quote]


    Well, according to this thread I reckon you're probably wrong - as I count at least two who won't be
    [/quote]

    Not convinced about him myself, I don't think he showed up at the races against us did he? Does that mean he is not a big game player. It's all very well being a trick pony against inferior opposition.
    He is also a diving little twat from what I remember, have I got the right player?


    regards
    [/quote]

    You just wrote his biography, mate.

    He is tricky but displays no heart. I'd hate to think we had to count on him in a pressure cooker like OT or goodison and I reckon he'd spend most of his time on the stretcher when we went to the Reebok etc. You look at Ronaldo and see the similarities but then you have to accept that Ronaldo is probably a one off. He faced his Waterloo and came through it when many of us probably figured he wouldn't. For everyone that comes through that and out the other side there are probably about 50 who don't make it. They just remain those wonderfully talented, full of potential players who never add the substance that a title chasing team requires.
    [/quote]

    No truer words have ever been spoken.
     
  19. Oncy

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    If its cattermole or quaresma, i know who id prefer.
     
  20. Vlads Quiff

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    [quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=22320.msg535874#msg535874 date=1207636752]
    If its cattermole or quaresma, i know who id prefer.
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    That , old chum, is not the point.
    I can't say I have taken much notice of Cattermole to be honest, although I take your point.
    What about Bentley v Quaresma, is that getting closer?

    regads
     
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