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Bite, Nibble, Munch and Chomp

By the typically ott reaction you would think hes a serial rapist or something of that ilk if you didn't know better.

What needs to happen is the suits, Suarez and his people sit down and first off find out if he is committed to us, if he is then we stick by him and get him all the help we can, he needs to get diagnosed with a mental disorder (he obviously has got a faulty wire up there), then that's the narrative the club sticks with - he has a mental issue and we want to help him and are doing all we can to help him, the end.

Hes worth the hassle, the pros outweigh the cons imo, he is an immense footballer who is a joy to watch and is massively important to helping this club to success, that's the main thing and what its all about, screw what other fans think of him and the club, they think it anyway, nothing has really changed in that respect.

Gordon Strachan nailed it earlier, there are no morals in football, its all about winning and doing whatever you can to win, wife beaters, home wrecking cheats, thugs, thieves and plain old nasty fucking bastards get cheered up and down the country and all over the world every week, were all hypocrites, the lot of us, some more than others mind.
 
Sell him.

He's let us down before, he'll do it again.

The club has to be bigger than the player.

Fair enough but it will be painful if we have to take a hit on the sale price . I'll be fucked if i happily bend over and do them Barca/Real cunts a favour . I'd rather stick him in the reserves .
 
Fair enough but it will be painful if we have to take a hit on the sale price . I'll be fucked if i happily bend over and do them Barca/Real cunts a favour . I'd rather stick him in the reserves .


It'll be as a direct result of Suarez's behaviour if we do.

If you were a Real or Barca supporter right now, you'd be clamouring for a drop in valuation after the shit he's served up this week.
 
Just watched Dufour's two footed tackle with intent to injure the Korean player. Straight red, surely a few games banned. What's missing? Frothing moral outrage. Is there a place for that kind of intentional attack in the game? Sure it was punished but not drawn and quartered.

I know some of you are really strongly offended by The Bite. Done in the heat of the moment in order to gain an advantage and win a game, you are disgusted. Dufour has committed an intentional attack with malice to injure. Are you frothing? Or just nodding in agreement that it was a sending off and should be a 3 game ban?
 
Can we sue him for actions which have caused the value of an asset (himself) to drop ? get Dantes on the case
 
If he had bitten someone in the first premier league game next season, what do you think he would have got from the FA? I think a full-season ban. If Barcelona are prepared to offer us Sanchez plus a decent amount of cash I'd bite their shoulder off. I'd miss Luis' genius but be relieved that the next offence would be somebody else's problem.
 
"Arguably as shocking as the offence itself are the numbers which will dominate Suárez’s immediate future: a four-month ban from “all football activities”; a nine-match suspension from Uruguay’s competitive fixtures that will take in Saturday’s last-16 tie with Colombia and any further games in this tournament, next year’s Copa America in Chile and, most likely, part of the 2016 centenary tournament in the United States; nine Premier League games, three Champions League group games and one Capital One Cup tie with Liverpool. He will not be eligible to play for his club until their game at Newcastle on 1 November – a week before Chelsea visit Anfield – effectively meaning he will have been banned for 48 matches since 2010 without ever having been shown a red card. Or suffering a serious injury."

From the Guardian.

What a selfish, aggrandising, fucking prick. 48 matches. And November 1st before he can play for us again - if he ever does.

God I cannot fucking stand him.
 
but hey he's not a bad player is he ? you surely enjoy the good stuff he does .
 
Can we sue him for actions which have caused the value of an asset (himself) to drop ? get Dantes on the case

No. The judge will see the obvious flaw that the act of suing him has in itself devalued the asset, so when you put your valuation before him or her, it will be a case of sorry dude but shit happens. The club will then get criticised for bringing it to court.

What we could do is discipline him for breach of contract, and use that as an excuse to remove his buy-out clause. Then it would be up to him to sue us.
 
which makes it such a frustrating wreck the head . Why couldn't he have been crap like Diouf !
 
As I said before, Uruguay, the national team set-up, needs to be sanctioned for their attitude. Otherwise it's a joke. If the penalty is meant to really achieve something, these bozos need to be smacked into sanity. From day one - from the Ajax incident onwards, this mad bunch of twits have consistently encouraged Suarez to feel like he's an entirely blameless individual whose only misfortune is to find himself in a country where nutters control the media. It's like Bale stamping on someone's face several times and the Welsh press reacting by calling all Spanish hacks a bunch of mad troublemakers. At present we have Uruguay dismissing the whole thing, and they'll welcome him back in November as the victim. If that isn't changed the whole thing is a waste of time, money and energy.

There's a Uruguayan on another forum that is making very interesting posts, or at least explanatory posts. Here's one :

Because your view of right and wrong is framed by the actual act, your values are such that it is all about whether the act is right or wrong. What that post indicates is certain cultures have different priorities, their values focus on a different type of right and wrong. Not protecting your own is "wronger" than whether the act is right or not for us. I know it sounds ridiculous to you but it's not a logical formula, it's the nuances of cultures and how certain things take precedence.

I don't expect you to agree, just to open your mind a bit to the possibility that some people have a different way of going about things that is hardwired into them from the moment they are born. If that applies to South Americans, imagine how much more it applies to Uruguayans, stuck in between two much much larger countries they constantly had to engage in wars against to keep their independence.

It's one of the things that explains how a country with 3M people can have 2 WCs, 2 Olympic Golds, 15 Copa Americas (more than Argentina or Brasil) and its clubs have 8 continental tournos and 6 Intercontinental ones. Name me countries with comparable records, you will struggle to get to five and they all have at least 15 times our population.

You are thinking about what gets the lowest sentence, not what is best for the team, the fans, the entire setup... We don't go out without a fight, even if it is a losing battle. If Suarez did that the entire team and travelling fans would have felt like "feck's sake Luis, that's game over now" and the wind would come out of their sails. The display against Colombia would have been horrendously bad and half-arsed.

It isn't just all those acting like madmen prioritising the collective and protecting Suarez, Suarez too acted in accordance with what was best for the collective. Mind, I don't think he did it as a result of a careful analysis, etc. it's just instinctive.
 
The lack of objectivity on many issues is what irks.

What would we all think of this guy if he played for Chelsea? Would we be citing past examples in the hope that 'justice' is served? Would we bollocks.

When Terry got done for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand - were there pages upon pages of precedents showing worse examples? Were people saying they'd prefer it to a career ending tackle?

You can't have one rule for one and one for another. It just makes you an ignorant supporter.

You've missed the fucking point by miles. Those other cases have give us perspective regarding the punishments served out on Suarez. I have posted several times since the race incident about Ferdinand, when he called Ashley Cole a "choc ice". Dress that comment up any way, but it's racial slur. The outcome? A £50k fine and him going straight onto Twitter to tell everyone that he wasn't sorry he did it, that he would "say what I want to say" and then laughing at the punishment. The outcome? Nothing. No widespread condemnation.

If Suarez played for Chelsea, people would condemn him, like most have done. The only defense, which isn't an actual defense of his actions, something yourself and Rosco seem to have a complete inability to construe, is that the punishment is once again pulled out of thin air. I understand there is no precedent to this, which is why we look at other punishments given to big name players.

I don't really understand why that's so hard to comprehend. Yet we're the ignorant supporters.

All this crap like "I'm so detached from this, ergo I'm so much better than you lot" is cuntish, oneupmanship bollocks. You understand nothing about the affinity people have with the club and it's almost embedded instinct to, if not protect our own, then look for fairness in it's treatment. This has gone beyond punishment to Suarez, as a club we've been punished more heavily than his International side, whom he was on duty for. The player has been punished and as a result, his club side have been given the shitty end of stick. The club side that rehabilitated him last season and got a clean, career best performance out of him as a result. But no, not according to Ryan, no, we're all defending him, we're all cabbages and retards, morons.

Here's a question for you then, I hope you manage to decipher it, what with it coming from a cabbage. We do all that rehabilitation work, then he goes away with Uruguay and they reap the rewards of our hardwork, only for him to then go off the rails in their environment. Fair? Of course it's not. I don't give a shit if they ban Luis from International football for life. If he'd done this again in a Liverpool shirt, then no one could argue about them throwing the book at him. That's not the case though, it's a situation completely out of his club's hands, but they have come down on us the hardest, particularly when the player reportedly didn't even want to stay beyond this season. Our hands are tied by his actions, by a governing body intent on making us the collateral damage, when it's completely unnecessary to do so. Where's our reward for his rehabilitation and the brilliant coaching he's had this season? There isn't any.

I don't think you even realise how much of a jumped up, patronising, aggressive, arrogant and insulting poster you can be at times. And pointing out my spats with Modo as a reason for that to be ok, is a tad hypocritical, coming from you, you who've hounded Dreambeliever for years, sneering at his lack of eloquence and calling him all the "thick cunts" under The Lying Rag, for what's been, by and large, pretty inoffensive posting. Yet you have to look down your nose at him, because he's not as intelligent as you are. Go you, you must be so proud of yourself.

Bit of a shame really, because when you put the playground-bully crap away, you make some great contributions to the site, unfortunately you can't post anything these days without branding everyone as some kind of fuckwit, coz we just don't "get it", or in DB's case, he's not intelligent enough.

Ever thought that for all your posturing about how you've played the game and understand it more than most, you haven't got a fucking clue when it comes to the heart people have for the club, the city and it's players? Ever thought that it's you who doesn't "get it"? People have reiterated throughout this thread that they don't condone what Luis has done, you came in last night and posted a load of jumbled up nonsense about John Hartson and Shearer and tried to paint LTW and me with the same brush. We didn't mention anything about what ex players were saying, I noticed you didn't bother replying to Buddha's post which more than set you straight. Probably because he's not retarded enough for you to lay into.

So I'll leave you to it, enjoy your day telling everyone how much of a deluded spaz they are. Knock yourself out pal.
 
I'll tell you why I didn't respond to this yesterday - cos I thought it was pitiful, and I felt sorry for you after reading it.

or because you realize that although biting is disgusting and unacceptable, it's not nearly as bad as some of the shite we've seen and how that's been handled.

Don't feel sorry for me mate - you can just say next time you'd rather get your leg broken by that Witsel player you praised (it was vicious, google it) than being bitten by SUarez. It's cool
 
You've missed the fucking point by miles.

So I'll leave you to it, enjoy your day telling everyone how much of a deluded spaz they are. Knock yourself out pal.

Yup ... I hope one day we can all be elite, morally superior, upper class fans. Until then, simpletons we shall remain!
 
It seems he will sign for Barca once he apologizes (SPORT) or they'll sign him regardless (Most rags).

I think we'll get 50 + Sanchez, which suits them as they can't play the four (Sanchez, Messi, Suarez & Neymar) together. We'll also draw Barca in the CL group stage.
 
You've missed the fucking point by miles. Those other cases have give us perspective regarding the punishments served out on Suarez. I have posted several times since the race incident about Ferdinand, when he called Ashley Cole a "choc ice". Dress that comment up any way, but it's racial slur. The outcome? A £50k fine and him going straight onto Twitter to tell everyone that he wasn't sorry he did it, that he would "say what I want to say" and then laughing at the punishment. The outcome? Nothing. No widespread condemnation.

If Suarez played for Chelsea, people would condemn him, like most have done. The only defense, which isn't an actual defense of his actions, something yourself and Rosco seem to have a complete inability to construe, is that the punishment is once again pulled out of thin air. I understand there is no precedent to this, which is why we look at other punishments given to big name players.

I don't really understand why that's so hard to comprehend. Yet we're the ignorant supporters.

All this crap like "I'm so detached from this, ergo I'm so much better than you lot" is cuntish, oneupmanship bollocks. You understand nothing about the affinity people have with the club and it's almost embedded instinct to, if not protect our own, then look for fairness in it's treatment. This has gone beyond punishment to Suarez, as a club we've been punished more heavily than his International side, whom he was on duty for. The player has been punished and as a result, his club side have been given the shitty end of stick. The club side that rehabilitated him last season and got a clean, career best performance out of him as a result. But no, not according to Ryan, no, we're all defending him, we're all cabbages and retards, morons.

Here's a question for you then, I hope you manage to decipher it, what with it coming from a cabbage. We do all that rehabilitation work, then he goes away with Uruguay and they reap the rewards of our hardwork, only for him to then go off the rails in their environment. Fair? Of course it's not. I don't give a shit if they ban Luis from International football for life. If he'd done this again in a Liverpool shirt, then no one could argue about them throwing the book at him. That's not the case though, it's a situation completely out of his club's hands, but they have come down on us the hardest, particularly when the player reportedly didn't even want to stay beyond this season. Our hands are tied by his actions, by a governing body intent on making us the collateral damage, when it's completely unnecessary to do so. Where's our reward for his rehabilitation and the brilliant coaching he's had this season? There isn't any.

I don't think you even realise how much of a jumped up, patronising, aggressive, arrogant and insulting poster you can be at times. And pointing out my spats with Modo as a reason for that to be ok, is a tad hypocritical, coming from you, you who've hounded Dreambeliever for years, sneering at his lack of eloquence and calling him all the "thick cunts" under The Lying Rag, for what's been, by and large, pretty inoffensive posting. Yet you have to look down your nose at him, because he's not as intelligent as you are. Go you, you must be so proud of yourself.

Bit of a shame really, because when you put the playground-bully crap away, you make some great contributions to the site, unfortunately you can't post anything these days without branding everyone as some kind of fuckwit, coz we just don't "get it", or in DB's case, he's not intelligent enough.

Ever thought that for all your posturing about how you've played the game and understand it more than most, you haven't got a fucking clue when it comes to the heart people have for the club, the city and it's players? Ever thought that it's you who doesn't "get it"? People have reiterated throughout this thread that they don't condone what Luis has done, you came in last night and posted a load of jumbled up nonsense about John Hartson and Shearer and tried to paint LTW and me with the same brush. We didn't mention anything about what ex players were saying, I noticed you didn't bother replying to Buddha's post which more than set you straight. Probably because he's not retarded enough for you to lay into.

So I'll leave you to it, enjoy your day telling everyone how much of a deluded spaz they are. Knock yourself out pal.


I did reply to Buddha's post. Twice.
 
You've missed the fucking point by miles. Those other cases have give us perspective regarding the punishments served out on Suarez. I have posted several times since the race incident about Ferdinand, when he called Ashley Cole a "choc ice". Dress that comment up any way, but it's racial slur. The outcome? A £50k fine and him going straight onto Twitter to tell everyone that he wasn't sorry he did it, that he would "say what I want to say" and then laughing at the punishment. The outcome? Nothing. No widespread condemnation.

If Suarez played for Chelsea, people would condemn him, like most have done. The only defense, which isn't an actual defense of his actions, something yourself and Rosco seem to have a complete inability to construe, is that the punishment is once again pulled out of thin air. I understand there is no precedent to this, which is why we look at other punishments given to big name players.

I don't really understand why that's so hard to comprehend. Yet we're the ignorant supporters.

All this crap like "I'm so detached from this, ergo I'm so much better than you lot" is cuntish, oneupmanship bollocks. You understand nothing about the affinity people have with the club and it's almost embedded instinct to, if not protect our own, then look for fairness in it's treatment. This has gone beyond punishment to Suarez, as a club we've been punished more heavily than his International side, whom he was on duty for. The player has been punished and as a result, his club side have been given the shitty end of stick. The club side that rehabilitated him last season and got a clean, career best performance out of him as a result. But no, not according to Ryan, no, we're all defending him, we're all cabbages and retards, morons.

Here's a question for you then, I hope you manage to decipher it, what with it coming from a cabbage. We do all that rehabilitation work, then he goes away with Uruguay and they reap the rewards of our hardwork, only for him to then go off the rails in their environment. Fair? Of course it's not. I don't give a shit if they ban Luis from International football for life. If he'd done this again in a Liverpool shirt, then no one could argue about them throwing the book at him. That's not the case though, it's a situation completely out of his club's hands, but they have come down on us the hardest, particularly when the player reportedly didn't even want to stay beyond this season. Our hands are tied by his actions, by a governing body intent on making us the collateral damage, when it's completely unnecessary to do so. Where's our reward for his rehabilitation and the brilliant coaching he's had this season? There isn't any.

I don't think you even realise how much of a jumped up, patronising, aggressive, arrogant and insulting poster you can be at times. And pointing out my spats with Modo as a reason for that to be ok, is a tad hypocritical, coming from you, you who've hounded Dreambeliever for years, sneering at his lack of eloquence and calling him all the "thick cunts" under The Lying Rag, for what's been, by and large, pretty inoffensive posting. Yet you have to look down your nose at him, because he's not as intelligent as you are. Go you, you must be so proud of yourself.

Bit of a shame really, because when you put the playground-bully crap away, you make some great contributions to the site, unfortunately you can't post anything these days without branding everyone as some kind of fuckwit, coz we just don't "get it", or in DB's case, he's not intelligent enough.

Ever thought that for all your posturing about how you've played the game and understand it more than most, you haven't got a fucking clue when it comes to the heart people have for the club, the city and it's players? Ever thought that it's you who doesn't "get it"? People have reiterated throughout this thread that they don't condone what Luis has done, you came in last night and posted a load of jumbled up nonsense about John Hartson and Shearer and tried to paint LTW and me with the same brush. We didn't mention anything about what ex players were saying, I noticed you didn't bother replying to Buddha's post which more than set you straight. Probably because he's not retarded enough for you to lay into.

So I'll leave you to it, enjoy your day telling everyone how much of a deluded spaz they are. Knock yourself out pal.


That was like reading a never ending volume of the Daily Mail.

'Where's the fairness in all the rehabilitation and brilliant coaching we've done for him?'

What are you even talking about?
 
or because you realize that although biting is disgusting and unacceptable, it's not nearly as bad as some of the shite we've seen and how that's been handled.

Don't feel sorry for me mate - you can just say next time you'd rather get your leg broken by that Witsel player you praised (it was vicious, google it) than being bitten by SUarez. It's cool


LeTall - You keep banging this drum, so I might as well ask it; What in the name of sweet fucking Jesus has other (completely unrelated) players tackles (dangerous or not) got to do with Luis Suarez biting 3 different men?

I have no idea why you keep bringing this up as some form of comparative discussion.

What point are you actually trying to make?
 
LeTall - You keep banging this drum, so I might as well ask it; What in the name of sweet fucking Jesus has other (completely unrelated) players tackles (dangerous or not) got to do with Luis Suarez biting 3 different men?

I have no idea why you keep bringing this up as some form of comparative discussion.

What point are you actually trying to make?

Proportion ...

That still doesn't take away from the fact that at the end of the day, this is well down the list of vicious things we've seen on footy pitches (I'm sure you've seen some stuff on the pitch yourself that's much worse) and it's been punished as if it's amongst the worst.

I haven't even complained about the ban (I don't think it makes sense, but he deserves it because he's a fucking idiot)
 
@Ryan I made comparisons to other violent on the pitch incidents too.

Not to condone or explain his actions, but to try to give some perspective over the punishment, which imo isn't even remotely proportional to the offence.

I have no problem with the mental twat being punished, but there's no correlation thats explains the severity of the punishment compared to repeat violent offenders in the past.

The fact fifa didn't see fit to include mandatory psychiatric help, or at least counselling, says it all for me, they don't give a fuck, they just want to look strict for the UK & US media.
 
Here's a question for you then, I hope you manage to decipher it, what with it coming from a cabbage. We do all that rehabilitation work, then he goes away with Uruguay and they reap the rewards of our hardwork, only for him to then go off the rails in their environment. Fair? Of course it's not. I don't give a shit if they ban Luis from International football for life. If he'd done this again in a Liverpool shirt, then no one could argue about them throwing the book at him. That's not the case though, it's a situation completely out of his club's hands, but they have come down on us the hardest, particularly when the player reportedly didn't even want to stay beyond this season. Our hands are tied by his actions, by a governing body intent on making us the collateral damage, when it's completely unnecessary to do so. Where's our reward for his rehabilitation and the brilliant coaching he's had this season? There isn't any.


I think I've worked out what the fuck you're on about here.

Mark, you do realise that it's Luis Suarez's fault that we won't have him available until November don't you? Just like it was his fault that he's missed 30 other games for us in the time we've had him?

I've got news for you; it's not the FA's fault, or FIFA's fault, or Patrice Evra's fault, or the British media's fault. It's Luis Suarez.

He's the one who's undone all the "rehab and brilliant coaching" you know. Not anyone else. Him.

You're asking "where's our reward"? Well, he blew it.
 
@Ryan I made comparisons to other violent on the pitch incidents too.

Not to condone or explain his actions, but to try to give some perspective over the punishment, which imo isn't even remotely proportional to the offence.

I have no problem with the mental twat being punished, but there's no correlation thats explains the severity of the punishment compared to repeat violent offenders in the past.

The fact fifa didn't see fit to include mandatory psychiatric help, or at least counselling, says it all for me, they don't give a fuck, they just want to look strict for the UK & US media.


How long did Rio Ferdinand get for missing a drugs test? Genuine question.

Is that comparable to biting men 3 times?
 
Proportion ...

That still doesn't take away from the fact that at the end of the day, this is well down the list of vicious things we've seen on footy pitches (I'm sure you've seen some stuff on the pitch yourself that's much worse) and it's been punished as if it's amongst the worst.

I haven't even complained about the ban (I don't think it makes sense, but he deserves it because he's a fucking idiot)


Well if he deserves the ban, why are you typing out a list of things that might happen on a pitch and asking me which is worse?
 
Well if he deserves the ban, why are you typing out a list of things that might happen on a pitch and asking me which is worse?

a) That was before the ban
b) Because the ban doesn't make sense

Alas, we won't agree on the 'proportion' bit ... at least we agree on the 'He's a fucking idiot' bit.
 
Just looked it up; Rio Ferdinand got an 8 month ban. I'd say biting men 3 times is worse than failing to take a drugs test.

And Ferdinand had to miss games for England even though the offence was when he was 'playing' for Utd.

Hmmm.
 
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