British / HG players

[The Nomad]

But seriously, why do Latin Americans have ludicrous technique with a football? All of them have it in abundance, providing you discount the ones that don't

Futsal and beach football.

 

[peterhague]

Jesus Christ. Again, specific people's with common genetics may have advantages in specific athletic activities.

First of all football isn't one of those specific activities. There's lots of ways to be a good footballer.

"Black people" as you are using it is a term that has no scientific validity. Nor is there any common genetics shared between people identified socially in that way.

It's you who is making a very broad point that's indefensible, and is meandering from that point into narrower claims.

I have no issue with the idea that certain peoples might have specific athletic advantages, that seems clear. There is no mechanism or reason that this would be attributable to one superficial, social construct of race. Again it's like saying that whites are clearly stronger than blacks because the world's strongest men are generally Nordic, and that the addition of some nuance to that means you're PC. No, it means you are approaching a scientific question with the most muddy, general terms.

Right, so you accept that the broad black population in the US and in countries whose black populations are similar have a significant advantage in athletic ability.

It would therefore follow that they're likely to have a significant advantage in any sport where athletic ability is important, holding other things equal. And, looking at black success across many such sports, that is indeed exactly what we see.

Which is all I was saying to start with.

 

[Farkmaster]

Right, so you accept that the broad black population in the US and in countries whose black populations are similar have a significant advantage in athletic ability.

I don't accept that. There is no meaning to "black population" genetically. Nor is there much meaning to "athletic ability."

 

[peterhague]

I don't accept that. There is no meaning to "black population" genetically. Nor is there much meaning to "athletic ability."

Ok well like I said that's the end of the discussion then.

 

[Farkmaster]

Ok well like I said that's the end of the discussion then.

Yes, we can't talk if you don't make a specific claim with terms that have meaning. It sounds like you think that black people have common genetics that define a "race".

 

[peterhague]

Yes, we can't talk if you don't make a specific claim with terms that have meaning. It sounds like you think that black people have common genetics that define a "race".

I'll try to make a claim that is very very simple. I think the next American to break the American 100m record has a higher than 50% chance of being "black", with "black" defined as agreed between us. I think the same for the next British person to break the British record.

I'm willing to bet £100 on each of those outcomes and won't even request odds.

 

[Farkmaster]

I'll try to make a claim that is very very simple. I think the next American to break the American 100m record has a higher than 50% chance of being "black", with "black" defined as agreed between us. I think the same for the next British person to break the British record.

I'm willing to bet £100 on each of those outcomes and won't even request odds.

And thats why London clubs recruit better. Got it.

 

[Modo]

I can't believe no one got the George Harrison reference

 

[Atlas]

The problem we're facing in Sweden is that kids no longer just go out and play football, like we used to when we were kids.

My son recently asked his mate to play football at 5.
Kid said yup sure, I'll jump on at 5.

My son, umm no. Like play football, in the park not fifa
His friend, oh no Im not allowed out to play football.

 

[Modo]

My son recently asked his mate to play football at 5.
Kid said yup sure, I'll jump on at 5.

My son, umm no. Like play football, in the park not fifa
His friend, oh no Im not allowed out to play football.

Well you raised him right.

 

[zoboroboz]

I can't believe no one got the George Harrison reference

What do you think I gave you a Like for?

 

[MomoWASright]

I’m going the next first time winners of the following events to be white.

World Darts Championship
Wimbledon
Augusta
Formula 1 world championship
Olympic 100m breaststroke
Grand National (jockey not the fucking horse)
Snooker World Championship
Skiing World Cup - Giant Slalom

 

[peterhague]

And thats why London clubs recruit better. Got it.

You're the one who was acting all snooty about being pressed to answer a straightforward question. You won't answer it, you won't bet on it. Brave brave Sir Robin.

 

[peekay]

View: https://youtu.be/fUu0GuW1WYQ?si=fpe1gdFYqGRwV7EC

 

[Woland]

The best hubs of football always evolved around a working class tradition. Whether that was the streets of toxteth or the favelas of rio doesn't really matter. Poverty breeds great football. Football is so great because we all got to play it so we all know where we `are in the sphere of the whole thing. It's not like you didn't get a chance to win the F1 because your dad wasn't a billionaire, most able bodied people played football as a kid, the whole world over. In the context of the last hundred years.

Race has nothing to do with it. But social structures do. As evidenced by Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard. There's not much hope but there is a shit ton of talent and it got channelled in those cases. Liverpool is a poor city. Anfield is one of the poorest suburbs in Europe. I don't know enough to type a lot more but the lower leagues have always been filled with scousers, all sides, all places, because kids in Liverpool used to run around in the street playing football more than kids in other British towns, because other British towns were wealthier and other British parents wanted their kids to do their homework instead of playing in the street. Now it seems kids run round in the street more on other continents and all our kids are fat - and I would speculate on why but it would be a series of cliches.

Either way, I'd like a few locals in the team. It's kinda the point.

 

[Modo]

What do you think I gave you a Like for?

Ah ok. Missed it

 

[Fabio]

I can't believe no one got the George Harrison reference

I got it

 

[Atlas]

My kids do swimming and tennis as well as footy.

Woah check out scooge Mcduck over here.

Do you have afternoon tea with the king n all.

 

[MomoWASright]

Fuck the Royals.

The best Royals have their heads on sticks.