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[quote author=Dee link=topic=42898.msg1273470#msg1273470 date=1296517421]
'Arry on SSN now saying they agreed a deal and it failed due to two missing signatures from B'pool board members
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Haha, they really are a toy town operation in so many ways.
'Arry on SSN now saying they agreed a deal and it failed due to two missing signatures from B'pool board members
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Haha, they really are a toy town operation in so many ways.
2345: Harry Redknapp confirms to Sky Sports News that Tottenham made a bid - that was accepted - for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam late in the day, but that the deal fell through because "a couple of Blackpool shareholders" just failed to get the necessary signatures on the paperwork in time. So near. So far. So Tottenham.
[quote author=The Duck link=topic=42898.msg1273404#msg1273404 date=1296516780]
I hope they go down now.
For Oyston you understand, not Molbystwin.
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I've obviously missed something here ?? What's blackpool gotta do with me??
I hope they go down now.
For Oyston you understand, not Molbystwin.
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I've obviously missed something here ?? What's blackpool gotta do with me??
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=42898.msg1273548#msg1273548 date=1296518245]
[quote author=The Duck link=topic=42898.msg1273404#msg1273404 date=1296516780]
I hope they go down now.
For Oyston you understand, not Molbystwin.
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I've obviously missed something here ?? What's blackpool gotta do with me??
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Molby's twin.
[quote author=The Duck link=topic=42898.msg1273404#msg1273404 date=1296516780]
I hope they go down now.
For Oyston you understand, not Molbystwin.
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I've obviously missed something here ?? What's blackpool gotta do with me??
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Molby's twin.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=42898.msg1273511#msg1273511 date=1296517790]
2345: Harry Redknapp confirms to Sky Sports News that Tottenham made a bid - that was accepted - for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam late in the day, but that the deal fell through because "a couple of Blackpool shareholders" just failed to get the necessary signatures on the paperwork in time. So near. So far. So Tottenham.
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Wonder how much the apparent agreed figure was. :-\
2345: Harry Redknapp confirms to Sky Sports News that Tottenham made a bid - that was accepted - for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam late in the day, but that the deal fell through because "a couple of Blackpool shareholders" just failed to get the necessary signatures on the paperwork in time. So near. So far. So Tottenham.
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Wonder how much the apparent agreed figure was. :-\
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=42898.msg1273771#msg1273771 date=1296530277]
You never know if Redknapp is lying. Hate that cunt.
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Ha, was he getting too desperate to bring in a midfielder? :-\
You never know if Redknapp is lying. Hate that cunt.
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Ha, was he getting too desperate to bring in a midfielder? :-\
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=42898.msg1273449#msg1273449 date=1296517248]
[quote author=McNulty link=topic=42898.msg1273421#msg1273421 date=1296516999]
So does anyone reckon we will be back in for Adam in the summer?
[/quote]no,we will be shopping at harrods in the summer and thats not being disrespectful to adam but he was a short term option believe me,no more netto signings for us now lads.
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Thanks for sharing, Mark. I like Adam but that's so good to hear.
Also a big thank you for your overall contribution during the window, much appreciated.
[quote author=McNulty link=topic=42898.msg1273421#msg1273421 date=1296516999]
So does anyone reckon we will be back in for Adam in the summer?
[/quote]no,we will be shopping at harrods in the summer and thats not being disrespectful to adam but he was a short term option believe me,no more netto signings for us now lads.
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Thanks for sharing, Mark. I like Adam but that's so good to hear.
Also a big thank you for your overall contribution during the window, much appreciated.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42898.msg1273853#msg1273853 date=1296547135]
If he was only a short-term option, I'm glad we didn't get him.
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I think he would have been a short-term option for 1st team and a good squad player after that.
If he was only a short-term option, I'm glad we didn't get him.
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I think he would have been a short-term option for 1st team and a good squad player after that.
I feel sorry for Adam. His club have stymied a big career move. It's an opportunity he may not get again.
I think he'll continue to do a great job and will have as many clubs interested in him come June. He's quality, a much better player than he's being given credit for. That said, I understand the opinion that we need other types of player even more right now, quality LB, wingers, a CB, a DM....
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42898.msg1273856#msg1273856 date=1296547321]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42898.msg1273853#msg1273853 date=1296547135]
If he was only a short-term option, I'm glad we didn't get him.
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I think he would have been a short-term option for 1st team and a good squad player after that.
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For 10 million quid?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42898.msg1273853#msg1273853 date=1296547135]
If he was only a short-term option, I'm glad we didn't get him.
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I think he would have been a short-term option for 1st team and a good squad player after that.
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For 10 million quid?
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1273873#msg1273873 date=1296548538]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42898.msg1273856#msg1273856 date=1296547321]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42898.msg1273853#msg1273853 date=1296547135]
If he was only a short-term option, I'm glad we didn't get him.
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I think he would have been a short-term option for 1st team and a good squad player after that.
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For 10 million quid?
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I think we offered 8? But yeah, if what Mark says is true then that's how I see it.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42898.msg1273856#msg1273856 date=1296547321]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42898.msg1273853#msg1273853 date=1296547135]
If he was only a short-term option, I'm glad we didn't get him.
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I think he would have been a short-term option for 1st team and a good squad player after that.
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For 10 million quid?
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I think we offered 8? But yeah, if what Mark says is true then that's how I see it.
We've got Shelvey who looks to be a passing sort of midfielder. He's clearly been bought for the first team, so perhaps he can fulfil the role of squad player over the next couple years. There is no question he's not at the level of Adam as he's not ready to start and boss games yet, but I'd like to think we're trusting in him (which we do seem to be doing) for a reason.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42898.msg1273850#msg1273850 date=1296546941]
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=42898.msg1273449#msg1273449 date=1296517248]
[quote author=McNulty link=topic=42898.msg1273421#msg1273421 date=1296516999]
So does anyone reckon we will be back in for Adam in the summer?
[/quote]no,we will be shopping at harrods in the summer and thats not being disrespectful to adam but he was a short term option believe me,no more netto signings for us now lads.
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Thanks for sharing, Mark. I like Adam but that's so good to hear.
Also a big thank you for your overall contribution during the window, much appreciated.
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Hear hear.
I'll be very interested to see how Adam shapes up during the rest of this season. He'll be well teed off with Blackpool now, but he can't afford to let his standards slip or the number of clubs interested in signing him next summer may drop off considerably. I'd also like to be a fly on the wall next time Holloway and Oyston have a one-to-one.
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=42898.msg1273449#msg1273449 date=1296517248]
[quote author=McNulty link=topic=42898.msg1273421#msg1273421 date=1296516999]
So does anyone reckon we will be back in for Adam in the summer?
[/quote]no,we will be shopping at harrods in the summer and thats not being disrespectful to adam but he was a short term option believe me,no more netto signings for us now lads.
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Thanks for sharing, Mark. I like Adam but that's so good to hear.
Also a big thank you for your overall contribution during the window, much appreciated.
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Hear hear.
I'll be very interested to see how Adam shapes up during the rest of this season. He'll be well teed off with Blackpool now, but he can't afford to let his standards slip or the number of clubs interested in signing him next summer may drop off considerably. I'd also like to be a fly on the wall next time Holloway and Oyston have a one-to-one.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=42898.msg1273511#msg1273511 date=1296517790]
2345: Harry Redknapp confirms to Sky Sports News that Tottenham made a bid - that was accepted - for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam late in the day, but that the deal fell through because "a couple of Blackpool shareholders" just failed to get the necessary signatures on the paperwork in time. So near. So far. So Tottenham.
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So 'Arry! But why is it he is in front of us in our bid for similar amounts?
2345: Harry Redknapp confirms to Sky Sports News that Tottenham made a bid - that was accepted - for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam late in the day, but that the deal fell through because "a couple of Blackpool shareholders" just failed to get the necessary signatures on the paperwork in time. So near. So far. So Tottenham.
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So 'Arry! But why is it he is in front of us in our bid for similar amounts?
Oyston is quoted as saying that Adam never came close to leaving.
What a dickhead - there are pictures of Adam being rushed back to their offices @ 10:30 last night putting his thumb up and saying he's sorted - followed by 'Arry blabbing all about the deal being short two signatures of going through.
How stupid does he think the fans are?
What a dickhead - there are pictures of Adam being rushed back to their offices @ 10:30 last night putting his thumb up and saying he's sorted - followed by 'Arry blabbing all about the deal being short two signatures of going through.
How stupid does he think the fans are?
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
Our bid of 8.5M was rejected but Spurs bid of 6.5M was accepted. Oi Olli and Oyston, do one! What muppets!
Ultimately, I'm not too disappointed that we didn't get Adam in this window although I was hoping for a winger because I viewed it as more important for the balance of the team.
Ultimately, I'm not too disappointed that we didn't get Adam in this window although I was hoping for a winger because I viewed it as more important for the balance of the team.
Adam furious over botched deal - agent
February 2, 2011
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Charlie Adam is "angry" having been "seriously mucked about" by Blackpool overhis protracted transfer to Liverpool, according to his agent Kenny Moyes.
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Charlie Adam: Courted by Liverpool
• Beattie joins Blackpool from Rangers
• Tangerines sign Reid
• Spurs fail in last-ditch Adam bid
• Premier League team news
Moyes has accused Blackpool of deliberately obstructing Adam's move to Anfield after the Reds made an offer for the player on deadline day.
Liverpool's interest ended when they refused to meet the Tangerines' asking price, which Moyes claims was shrouded in secrecy.
His report conflicts with Harry Redknapp's insistence that Spurs offered an acceptable amount for Adam, only to see the bid fail because it came too late in the day.
Adam, who had a transfer request rejected in January, is set to leave Blackpool in the summer, with Ian Holloway admitting it will be "impossible" to keep hold of the player.
"Charlie loves Blackpool and the Blackpool fans, but he was desperate to move to Liverpool - who wouldn't feel that way when a club like that comes calling?" Moyes told The Lying Rag.
"But he was seriously mucked about. Blackpool refused to put a figure on how much they wanted for him and would not enter any meaningful negotiations.
"It has been a major stress for Charlie, a real emotional rollercoaster. As well as being angry he feels gutted and badly let down as the only player to put in a transfer request and have it ignored.
"Luckily, coming from Rangers, he is bullet-proof, and I can promise you that you won't see any difference in his level of performance. He will be as committed and passionate as ever.
"That's just the way Charlie is - he's the sort of guy you would always want in the trenches alongside you. But he has personal ambitions he wants to fulfil, and I just hope the club play fair with him in the summer."
February 2, 2011
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By ESPN staff
Charlie Adam is "angry" having been "seriously mucked about" by Blackpool overhis protracted transfer to Liverpool, according to his agent Kenny Moyes.
GettyImages
Charlie Adam: Courted by Liverpool
• Beattie joins Blackpool from Rangers
• Tangerines sign Reid
• Spurs fail in last-ditch Adam bid
• Premier League team news
Moyes has accused Blackpool of deliberately obstructing Adam's move to Anfield after the Reds made an offer for the player on deadline day.
Liverpool's interest ended when they refused to meet the Tangerines' asking price, which Moyes claims was shrouded in secrecy.
His report conflicts with Harry Redknapp's insistence that Spurs offered an acceptable amount for Adam, only to see the bid fail because it came too late in the day.
Adam, who had a transfer request rejected in January, is set to leave Blackpool in the summer, with Ian Holloway admitting it will be "impossible" to keep hold of the player.
"Charlie loves Blackpool and the Blackpool fans, but he was desperate to move to Liverpool - who wouldn't feel that way when a club like that comes calling?" Moyes told The Lying Rag.
"But he was seriously mucked about. Blackpool refused to put a figure on how much they wanted for him and would not enter any meaningful negotiations.
"It has been a major stress for Charlie, a real emotional rollercoaster. As well as being angry he feels gutted and badly let down as the only player to put in a transfer request and have it ignored.
"Luckily, coming from Rangers, he is bullet-proof, and I can promise you that you won't see any difference in his level of performance. He will be as committed and passionate as ever.
"That's just the way Charlie is - he's the sort of guy you would always want in the trenches alongside you. But he has personal ambitions he wants to fulfil, and I just hope the club play fair with him in the summer."
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42898.msg1275465#msg1275465 date=1296646056]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
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I see the overall strategy, but I don't think Oyston's approach was either honest or effective. He now has to hope that Adam can rouse himself to remain at the same standard, failing which his gamble is a good deal more likely to fail also. Far better to tell Adam that's what he had decided, in which case he might have got the kind of final season out of him that we got out of Alonso.
I'd add that this assumes that WAS Oyston's intention, whereas I reckon it's at least as likely that he was motivated by simple greed.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
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I see the overall strategy, but I don't think Oyston's approach was either honest or effective. He now has to hope that Adam can rouse himself to remain at the same standard, failing which his gamble is a good deal more likely to fail also. Far better to tell Adam that's what he had decided, in which case he might have got the kind of final season out of him that we got out of Alonso.
I'd add that this assumes that WAS Oyston's intention, whereas I reckon it's at least as likely that he was motivated by simple greed.
Adam has been shafted by Oyston and Blackpool twice in 6 months.
He had to take them to court to get his 200k bonus for getting promoted.
Now they have stopped him getting a dream move.
He is the only Blackpool player in history to have a transfer request turned down too.
I wouldn't be at all commited to the cause if I was him, I'd be fuckin livid and just going through the motions.
He had to take them to court to get his 200k bonus for getting promoted.
Now they have stopped him getting a dream move.
He is the only Blackpool player in history to have a transfer request turned down too.
I wouldn't be at all commited to the cause if I was him, I'd be fuckin livid and just going through the motions.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1275472#msg1275472 date=1296646619]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42898.msg1275465#msg1275465 date=1296646056]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
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I see the overall strategy, but I don't think Oyston's approach was either honest or effective. He now has to hope that Adam can rouse himself to remain at the same standard, failing which his gamble is a good deal more likely to fail also. Far better to tell Adam that's what he had decided, in which case he might have got the kind of final season out of him that we got out of Alonso.
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i agree that he looks like a complete clown, and he's made a laughing stock of the club, but at the end of the day blackpool are clearly better off, imo, than they would be without adam and £10m in the bank. by accident or design, that's all that *really* matters.
oh, and not sure i understand the alonso parallel - didn't we get a great season out of alonso by massively pissing him off? haven't blackpool just massively pissed off charlie adam? fired him up, maybe?
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42898.msg1275465#msg1275465 date=1296646056]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
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I see the overall strategy, but I don't think Oyston's approach was either honest or effective. He now has to hope that Adam can rouse himself to remain at the same standard, failing which his gamble is a good deal more likely to fail also. Far better to tell Adam that's what he had decided, in which case he might have got the kind of final season out of him that we got out of Alonso.
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i agree that he looks like a complete clown, and he's made a laughing stock of the club, but at the end of the day blackpool are clearly better off, imo, than they would be without adam and £10m in the bank. by accident or design, that's all that *really* matters.
oh, and not sure i understand the alonso parallel - didn't we get a great season out of alonso by massively pissing him off? haven't blackpool just massively pissed off charlie adam? fired him up, maybe?
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1275472#msg1275472 date=1296646619]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42898.msg1275465#msg1275465 date=1296646056]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
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I see the overall strategy, but I don't think Oyston's approach was either honest or effective. He now has to hope that Adam can rouse himself to remain at the same standard, failing which his gamble is a good deal more likely to fail also. Far better to tell Adam that's what he had decided, in which case he might have got the kind of final season out of him that we got out of Alonso.
I'd add that this assumes that WAS Oyston's intention, whereas I reckon it's at least as likely that he was motivated by simple greed.
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it doesn't assume that this was his intention - see post 'whatever his intentions'. i'm just talking about the outcome for oyston and the club - was it good or bad? i think good.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42898.msg1275465#msg1275465 date=1296646056]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42898.msg1274117#msg1274117 date=1296558123]
Oyston's made a king-sized f'ckup of things, knows he has and is trying to cover his tracks.
Adam is now a safe bet to leave in the summer IMO. I wouldn't bet the bank on Holloway sticking around either, not after this.
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people say that, but whatever his intentions, this looks like a decent outcome for blackpool & oyston to me. if he keeps them up - and that's not wildly unlikely - then it's made them millions of pounds.
if i'd been him my attitude would've been to keep him at all costs and let him leave in the summer. if they lose a couple of million on his fee but ultimately stay up then who fucking cares?
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I see the overall strategy, but I don't think Oyston's approach was either honest or effective. He now has to hope that Adam can rouse himself to remain at the same standard, failing which his gamble is a good deal more likely to fail also. Far better to tell Adam that's what he had decided, in which case he might have got the kind of final season out of him that we got out of Alonso.
I'd add that this assumes that WAS Oyston's intention, whereas I reckon it's at least as likely that he was motivated by simple greed.
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it doesn't assume that this was his intention - see post 'whatever his intentions'. i'm just talking about the outcome for oyston and the club - was it good or bad? i think good.
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