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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=42898.msg1304712#msg1304712 date=1300964662]
think binny posted somethin on his contract in another thread....brb
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Article mentioned he has a yr left and found this 'news' dated 2009.

Gary Cahill has signed a new three-year contract with Bolton, tying him to the club until 2012.
Click to expand...
 
So he'll have 12 months on his contract from this summer?

Only a poorly ran club would spunk £18m on him in that case.

I cannot wait to see him play with Agger!
 
binnys like a news ninja. I found his posted, copied it and everything, but he's already cut out the important bits AND found an article to back it up


*claps*
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=42898.msg1304673#msg1304673 date=1300959928]
I suppose this could be quoted in several threads here;

"@bensmith_Times: Kenny Dalglish identifies Ashley Young, Gary Cahill, Matt Jarvis & Charlie Adam as #LFC targets"
[/quote]

If thats who we ended up with i'd be fucking gutted.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=42898.msg1304716#msg1304716 date=1300964831]
binnys like a news ninja compared to me. I found his posted, copied it and everything, but he's already cut out the important bits AND found an article to back it up


*claps*
[/quote] nods
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=42898.msg1304716#msg1304716 date=1300964831]
binnys like a news ninja. I found his posted, copied it and everything, but he's already cut out the important bits AND found an article to back it up


*claps*
[/quote]

Thanks mate but the articles can be dodgy sometimes though, like the Bastos one on the other thread where they got his age wrong >_<

[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42898.msg1304718#msg1304718 date=1300964880]
There will be a lot of interest in Cahill though so he'll probably still cost a lot.
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Ya, guess so too. Similar to Ashley Young's case. Besides, he hasn't given as much indication of wanting/threatening to leave at the end of his contract. Given how Bolton has helped him since he left Villa, could well 'do a Charlie Adam' and help them earn as high a transfer fee as possible.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42898.msg1304705#msg1304705 date=1300963619]
[quote author=themn link=topic=42898.msg1304673#msg1304673 date=1300959928]
I suppose this could be quoted in several threads here;

"@bensmith_Times: Kenny Dalglish identifies Ashley Young, Gary Cahill, Matt Jarvis & Charlie Adam as #LFC targets"
[/quote]

--------------------------new keeper--------------------------
kelly----------------cahill-------agger-----------------johnson
jarvis--------------gerrard----------adam-------------young
-----------------suarez------------carroll----------------------

good team?


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my worry about that team would be the ability to shield the defense but with that said if the centre backs are of sufficient quality then they would need less protection.

who is the holding midfielder when fletcher and carrick play together?
 
People seem to forget that we bemoan our bench every time there is a match thread. I would imagine the players mentioned are being brought in to give us depth above anything else and options from the bench depending how a game is going. The likelihood is that everyone will get playing time either it be through injury or squad rotation.
 
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=42898.msg1304730#msg1304730 date=1300966010]
People seem to forget that we bemoan our bench every time there is a match thread. I would imagine the players mentioned are being brought in to give us depth above anything else and options from the bench depending how a game is going. The likelihood is that everyone will get playing time either it be through injury or squad rotation.
[/quote]

"@bensmith_Times: Kenny Dalglish identifies Ashley Young, Gary Cahill, Matt Jarvis & Charlie Adam as #LFC targets"
Click to expand...

I would expect every single one of those players to walk into the first team and play more often than not.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42898.msg1304729#msg1304729 date=1300965973]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42898.msg1304705#msg1304705 date=1300963619]
[quote author=themn link=topic=42898.msg1304673#msg1304673 date=1300959928]
I suppose this could be quoted in several threads here;

"@bensmith_Times: Kenny Dalglish identifies Ashley Young, Gary Cahill, Matt Jarvis & Charlie Adam as #LFC targets"
[/quote]

--------------------------new keeper--------------------------
kelly----------------cahill-------agger-----------------johnson
jarvis--------------gerrard----------adam-------------young
-----------------suarez------------carroll----------------------

good team?


[/quote]

my worry about that team would be the ability to shield the defense but with that said if the centre backs are of sufficient quality then they would need less protection.

who is the holding midfielder when fletcher and carrick play together?
[/quote]

You're questioning your own formation mock-up?

For what its worth, I don't like the look of your team, Spidey.
 
i wouldn't expect jarvis and arguably cahill to walk into the first team. it depends on what formation we play and our style of play. can't see carra getting dropped, and we are much better with agger than not. When aggers injured cahill will get his chance but we'll see.

Kuyt is better than jarvis so should start ahead of him.
 
We are in no way a position to spend towards £18m on a player who won't get a game unless hes coming in as cover.

If we get Cahill, he will start and so he should.

Jarvis? Im not sure I buy the hype, I wouldn't expect him to come in and be a first timer.

Maveraux or however you spell it, I've never seen him and play and have no idea what to expect, its a freebie and given our track record, I expect to him be shite and not get a game.
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=42898.msg1304738#msg1304738 date=1300966382]
We are in no way a position to spend towards £18m on a player who won't get a game unless hes coming in as cover.

If we get Cahill, he will start and so he should.

Jarvis? Im not sure I buy the hype, I wouldn't expect him to come in and be a first timer.

Maveraux or however you spell it, I've never seen him and play and have no idea what to expect, its a freebie and given our track record, I expect to him be shite and not get a game.


[/quote]

oh i agree re:cahill, i just can't see who to drop. Agger brings the ball out wonderfully and carragher still got life in him. Out of the 2 i think it'd have to be carra dropped as i think cahill would work well with agger

i don't think we'll get him or are even in for him though
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42898.msg1304732#msg1304732 date=1300966131]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=42898.msg1304730#msg1304730 date=1300966010]
People seem to forget that we bemoan our bench every time there is a match thread. I would imagine the players mentioned are being brought in to give us depth above anything else and options from the bench depending how a game is going. The likelihood is that everyone will get playing time either it be through injury or squad rotation.
[/quote]

"@bensmith_Times: Kenny Dalglish identifies Ashley Young, Gary Cahill, Matt Jarvis & Charlie Adam as #LFC targets"
Click to expand...

I would expect every single one of those players to walk into the first week and play more often than not.
[/quote]


Yeah I would agree with that. More than likely players in our current starting eleven will drop to the bench, giving us depth.
 
I just want to say one thing. Assembling a starting 11 Championship Manager style almost never works in real life. Therefore coming up with a tactical scheme and filling it up with 3 or more potential buys is a useless exercise. If a good player is available for a good price - buy him, and let the manager figure out how to fit him in the team. This is especially true for central midfield where players have overlapping roles and are more interchangeable.

The "best 11" is a myth anyway. What was United's "first choice" central midfield for the past few seasons? Fletcher, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Giggs, Hargreaves - any one of them or any combination of those players could start on a given day, depending on form, Fergie's tactics, injuries, etc. Chelsea's midfield was somewhat more predictable because Lampard started every game before his injury, other than that there could be different options and tactics; even the number of nominal CMs present on the pitch at the same time could vary from 2 to 5. We could go on down the list, but the example of the overall top 2 English teams of the recent years should be convincing enough.

My point is, we shouldn't try too hard to calculate where to fit Adam in the next season's team. If he is good enough and our manager is smart enough, he will contribute, whether as a first teamer, squad player or just by increasing competition.

A funny story out of Madrid about increasing competition. Mourinho spent months fighting Real Madrid brass to get himself a striker he could play instead of misfiring, lazy and disinterested Benzema. It created a rift between the Portugese and Florentino's right-hand man Valdano; Mourinho essentially put his job on the line to get his man. Finally Mourinho's demands were met. Guess what, as soon as Adebayor arrived, Benzema went on a monster scoring streak, scoring more than a goal per game! Who knew? Really, things don't always work out the way you intended.
 
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=42898.msg1304761#msg1304761 date=1300968591]
I just want to say one thing. Assembling a starting 11 Championship Manager style almost never works in real life. Therefore coming up with a tactical scheme and filling it up with 3 or more potential buys is a useless exercise. If a good player is available for a good price - buy him, and let the manager figure out how to fit him in the team. This is especially true for central midfield where players have overlapping roles and are more interchangeable.

The "best 11" is a myth anyway. What was United's "first choice" central midfield for the past few seasons? Fletcher, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Giggs, Hargreaves - any one of them or any combination of those players could start on a given day, depending on form, Fergie's tactics, injuries, etc. Chelsea's midfield was somewhat more predictable because Lampard started every game before his injury, other than that there could be different options and tactics; even the number of nominal CMs present on the pitch at the same time could vary from 2 to 5. We could go on down the list, but the example of the overall top 2 English teams of the recent years should be convincing enough.

My point is, we shouldn't try too hard to calculate where to fit Adam in the next season's team. If he is good enough and our manager is smart enough, he will contribute, whether as a first teamer, squad player or just by increasing competition.

A funny story out of Madrid about increasing competition. Mourinho spent months fighting Real Madrid brass to get himself a striker he could play instead of misfiring, lazy and disinterested Benzema. It created a rift between the Portugese and Florentino's right-hand man Valdano; Mourinho essentially put his job on the line to get his man. Finally Mourinho's demands were met. Guess what, as soon as Adebayor arrived, Benzema went on a monster scoring streak, scoring more than a goal per game! Who knew? Really, things don't always work out the way you intended.
[/quote]

Wholeheartedly agree. Good post.
 
It is a good post, and as always, rurik really should post more.

But I dont think it's quite as simple as that; whilst we need to increase quality across the board, some areas are in far more desperate need than others. So at the moment we still need to look at the team as needing band-aids. Hopefully we can worry about shoe-horning the various players in the limited spaces in a few transfer windows.
 
Yep, in hindsight we should be happy that Robbie Keane and Aquilani increased the competition of our squad.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=42898.msg1304673#msg1304673 date=1300959928]
I suppose this could be quoted in several threads here;

"@bensmith_Times: Kenny Dalglish identifies Ashley Young, Gary Cahill, Matt Jarvis & Charlie Adam as #LFC targets"
[/quote]

Harrods my hole. That's Matalan shit right there.
 
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=42898.msg1304799#msg1304799 date=1300972204]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=42898.msg1304761#msg1304761 date=1300968591]
I just want to say one thing. Assembling a starting 11 Championship Manager style almost never works in real life. Therefore coming up with a tactical scheme and filling it up with 3 or more potential buys is a useless exercise. If a good player is available for a good price - buy him, and let the manager figure out how to fit him in the team. This is especially true for central midfield where players have overlapping roles and are more interchangeable.

The "best 11" is a myth anyway. What was United's "first choice" central midfield for the past few seasons? Fletcher, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Giggs, Hargreaves - any one of them or any combination of those players could start on a given day, depending on form, Fergie's tactics, injuries, etc. Chelsea's midfield was somewhat more predictable because Lampard started every game before his injury, other than that there could be different options and tactics; even the number of nominal CMs present on the pitch at the same time could vary from 2 to 5. We could go on down the list, but the example of the overall top 2 English teams of the recent years should be convincing enough.

My point is, we shouldn't try too hard to calculate where to fit Adam in the next season's team. If he is good enough and our manager is smart enough, he will contribute, whether as a first teamer, squad player or just by increasing competition.

A funny story out of Madrid about increasing competition. Mourinho spent months fighting Real Madrid brass to get himself a striker he could play instead of misfiring, lazy and disinterested Benzema. It created a rift between the Portugese and Florentino's right-hand man Valdano; Mourinho essentially put his job on the line to get his man. Finally Mourinho's demands were met. Guess what, as soon as Adebayor arrived, Benzema went on a monster scoring streak, scoring more than a goal per game! Who knew? Really, things don't always work out the way you intended.
[/quote]

Wholeheartedly agree. Good post.
[/quote]

I will second that.
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=42898.msg1305070#msg1305070 date=1301009589]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=42898.msg1304799#msg1304799 date=1300972204]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=42898.msg1304761#msg1304761 date=1300968591]
I just want to say one thing. Assembling a starting 11 Championship Manager style almost never works in real life. Therefore coming up with a tactical scheme and filling it up with 3 or more potential buys is a useless exercise. If a good player is available for a good price - buy him, and let the manager figure out how to fit him in the team. This is especially true for central midfield where players have overlapping roles and are more interchangeable.

The "best 11" is a myth anyway. What was United's "first choice" central midfield for the past few seasons? Fletcher, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Giggs, Hargreaves - any one of them or any combination of those players could start on a given day, depending on form, Fergie's tactics, injuries, etc. Chelsea's midfield was somewhat more predictable because Lampard started every game before his injury, other than that there could be different options and tactics; even the number of nominal CMs present on the pitch at the same time could vary from 2 to 5. We could go on down the list, but the example of the overall top 2 English teams of the recent years should be convincing enough.

My point is, we shouldn't try too hard to calculate where to fit Adam in the next season's team. If he is good enough and our manager is smart enough, he will contribute, whether as a first teamer, squad player or just by increasing competition.

A funny story out of Madrid about increasing competition. Mourinho spent months fighting Real Madrid brass to get himself a striker he could play instead of misfiring, lazy and disinterested Benzema. It created a rift between the Portugese and Florentino's right-hand man Valdano; Mourinho essentially put his job on the line to get his man. Finally Mourinho's demands were met. Guess what, as soon as Adebayor arrived, Benzema went on a monster scoring streak, scoring more than a goal per game! Who knew? Really, things don't always work out the way you intended.
[/quote]

Wholeheartedly agree. Good post.
[/quote]

I will second that.
[/quote]

I'll also third it, especially since it's exactly what I said 3 fucking days ago anyway.

http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=44636.msg1303492#msg1303492
 
If a player like Adam is going to struggle to get games in our next season's team, then I like where our team is heading. As things stand he would walk in.

We are linked with a 7m pound move, and even if he is benched a lot, he looks like a fantastic tactical option to have, and I'm quite stumped how people think we can get better value for money in spain...
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305071#msg1305071 date=1301010142]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=42898.msg1305070#msg1305070 date=1301009589]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=42898.msg1304799#msg1304799 date=1300972204]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=42898.msg1304761#msg1304761 date=1300968591]
I just want to say one thing. Assembling a starting 11 Championship Manager style almost never works in real life. Therefore coming up with a tactical scheme and filling it up with 3 or more potential buys is a useless exercise. If a good player is available for a good price - buy him, and let the manager figure out how to fit him in the team. This is especially true for central midfield where players have overlapping roles and are more interchangeable.

The "best 11" is a myth anyway. What was United's "first choice" central midfield for the past few seasons? Fletcher, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Giggs, Hargreaves - any one of them or any combination of those players could start on a given day, depending on form, Fergie's tactics, injuries, etc. Chelsea's midfield was somewhat more predictable because Lampard started every game before his injury, other than that there could be different options and tactics; even the number of nominal CMs present on the pitch at the same time could vary from 2 to 5. We could go on down the list, but the example of the overall top 2 English teams of the recent years should be convincing enough.

My point is, we shouldn't try too hard to calculate where to fit Adam in the next season's team. If he is good enough and our manager is smart enough, he will contribute, whether as a first teamer, squad player or just by increasing competition.

A funny story out of Madrid about increasing competition. Mourinho spent months fighting Real Madrid brass to get himself a striker he could play instead of misfiring, lazy and disinterested Benzema. It created a rift between the Portugese and Florentino's right-hand man Valdano; Mourinho essentially put his job on the line to get his man. Finally Mourinho's demands were met. Guess what, as soon as Adebayor arrived, Benzema went on a monster scoring streak, scoring more than a goal per game! Who knew? Really, things don't always work out the way you intended.
[/quote]

Wholeheartedly agree. Good post.
[/quote]

I will second that.
[/quote]

I'll also third it, especially since it's exactly what I said 3 fucking days ago anyway.

http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=44636.msg1303492#msg1303492
[/quote]

He's saying we should buy Adam Ryan. Are you sure you know what you're thirding here?
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42898.msg1305073#msg1305073 date=1301010525]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305071#msg1305071 date=1301010142]
I'll also third it, especially since it's exactly what I said 3 fucking days ago anyway

http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=44636.msg1303492#msg1303492
[/quote]

You also said you'd like Steve McClaren as manager not so long ago, so why you think people would listen to you is anyone's guess.
[/quote]

Didn't say I wanted him, said we should consider him as an option. But carry on...
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=42898.msg1305079#msg1305079 date=1301011370]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305071#msg1305071 date=1301010142]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=42898.msg1305070#msg1305070 date=1301009589]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=42898.msg1304799#msg1304799 date=1300972204]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=42898.msg1304761#msg1304761 date=1300968591]
I just want to say one thing. Assembling a starting 11 Championship Manager style almost never works in real life. Therefore coming up with a tactical scheme and filling it up with 3 or more potential buys is a useless exercise. If a good player is available for a good price - buy him, and let the manager figure out how to fit him in the team. This is especially true for central midfield where players have overlapping roles and are more interchangeable.

The "best 11" is a myth anyway. What was United's "first choice" central midfield for the past few seasons? Fletcher, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Giggs, Hargreaves - any one of them or any combination of those players could start on a given day, depending on form, Fergie's tactics, injuries, etc. Chelsea's midfield was somewhat more predictable because Lampard started every game before his injury, other than that there could be different options and tactics; even the number of nominal CMs present on the pitch at the same time could vary from 2 to 5. We could go on down the list, but the example of the overall top 2 English teams of the recent years should be convincing enough.

My point is, we shouldn't try too hard to calculate where to fit Adam in the next season's team. If he is good enough and our manager is smart enough, he will contribute, whether as a first teamer, squad player or just by increasing competition.

A funny story out of Madrid about increasing competition. Mourinho spent months fighting Real Madrid brass to get himself a striker he could play instead of misfiring, lazy and disinterested Benzema. It created a rift between the Portugese and Florentino's right-hand man Valdano; Mourinho essentially put his job on the line to get his man. Finally Mourinho's demands were met. Guess what, as soon as Adebayor arrived, Benzema went on a monster scoring streak, scoring more than a goal per game! Who knew? Really, things don't always work out the way you intended.
[/quote]

Wholeheartedly agree. Good post.
[/quote]

I will second that.
[/quote]

I'll also third it, especially since it's exactly what I said 3 fucking days ago anyway.

http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=44636.msg1303492#msg1303492
[/quote]

He's saying we should buy Adam Ryan. Are you sure you know what you're thirding here?
[/quote]

It's pretty obvious I was referring to the 'best 11' Mac - as you'll see from the quote I provided. Why are you continuing to flog this?
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305080#msg1305080 date=1301011534]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42898.msg1305073#msg1305073 date=1301010525]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305071#msg1305071 date=1301010142]
I'll also third it, especially since it's exactly what I said 3 fucking days ago anyway

http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=44636.msg1303492#msg1303492
[/quote]

You also said you'd like Steve McClaren as manager not so long ago, so why you think people would listen to you is anyone's guess.
[/quote]

Didn't say I wanted him, said we should consider him as an option. But carry on...
[/quote]

Yeah, that's a lot less stupid. Well done you.
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42898.msg1305082#msg1305082 date=1301011621]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305080#msg1305080 date=1301011534]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42898.msg1305073#msg1305073 date=1301010525]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305071#msg1305071 date=1301010142]
I'll also third it, especially since it's exactly what I said 3 fucking days ago anyway

http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=44636.msg1303492#msg1303492
[/quote]

You also said you'd like Steve McClaren as manager not so long ago, so why you think people would listen to you is anyone's guess.
[/quote]

Didn't say I wanted him, said we should consider him as an option. But carry on...
[/quote]

Yeah, that's a lot less stupid. Well done you.
[/quote]

Refugee if I could remember one thing you've ever posted on here which would take the spotlight off me I would, trust me.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42898.msg1305085#msg1305085 date=1301011813]
Refugee if I could remember one thing you've ever posted on here which would take the spotlight off me I would, trust me.
[/quote]

Thank god I can remember some of the wonderful things you've posted. Remember when you called one of the Williams Sisters a gorilla, we all had a good laugh at that one. Remember when you you used your wonderful player analysis skills to abuse every single payer that ever played for Rangers....I wish I could be remembered like you. Actually, your last ban was for something racist and stupid as well wasn't it, if only I could remember, I'm sure it would be witty and intelligent.
 
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