Dalglish to beat rivals to signing of Wigan star James McCarthy
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I don't think he is localny. I think that 'injury' he picked up against Sunderland has him out.
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=44707.msg1307007#msg1307007 date=1301406451]
Apparently Robbie Keane reacted as if the applause was for him when McCarthy came on in his place.
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Ssh, Don't get rosco going..
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Apparently Robbie Keane reacted as if the applause was for him when McCarthy came on in his place.
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Ssh, Don't get rosco going..
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=44707.msg1307007#msg1307007 date=1301406451]
Apparently Robbie Keane reacted as if the applause was for him when McCarthy came on in his place.
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"the count, lovely cushioned header, to RoscooOOOOOOH, YA BEAUTAY !!!
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Apparently Robbie Keane reacted as if the applause was for him when McCarthy came on in his place.
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"the count, lovely cushioned header, to RoscooOOOOOOH, YA BEAUTAY !!!
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I don't think he is localny. I think that 'injury' he picked up against Sunderland has him out.
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thx stu! is it a wink wink injury?
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What, going blind, you mean? 😉
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I don't think he is localny. I think that 'injury' he picked up against Sunderland has him out.
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thx stu! is it a wink wink injury?
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What, going blind, you mean? 😉
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I don't think he is localny. I think that 'injury' he picked up against Sunderland has him out.
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thx stu! is it a wink wink injury?
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What, going blind, you mean? 😉
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not quite!
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[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=44707.msg1306568#msg1306568 date=1301328451]
I don't think he is localny. I think that 'injury' he picked up against Sunderland has him out.
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thx stu! is it a wink wink injury?
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What, going blind, you mean? 😉
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not quite!
Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish continues to keep tabs on Wigan's James McCarthy
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 11:03 PM on 4th May 2011
Liverpool are continuing to monitor Wigan midfielder James McCarthy.
The Republic of Ireland international turned down Liverpool to join Wigan from Hamilton Academical for £1million in 2009.
But manager Kenny Dalglish rates him highly as he looks to bring in young talent to bolster his squad.
Dalglish sent his assistant Sammy Lee to watch the 20-year-old during the Latic's 1-1 draw with Everton last weekend.
Liverpool are also watching St Etienne's Idris Saadi, 18.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1383595/Liverpool-boss-Kenny-Dalglish-continues-tabs-Wigans-James-McCarthy.html#ixzz1LQoqpqM8
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Starting to think that McCarthy is ahead of Adam at the moment.
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 11:03 PM on 4th May 2011
Liverpool are continuing to monitor Wigan midfielder James McCarthy.
The Republic of Ireland international turned down Liverpool to join Wigan from Hamilton Academical for £1million in 2009.
But manager Kenny Dalglish rates him highly as he looks to bring in young talent to bolster his squad.
Dalglish sent his assistant Sammy Lee to watch the 20-year-old during the Latic's 1-1 draw with Everton last weekend.
Liverpool are also watching St Etienne's Idris Saadi, 18.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1383595/Liverpool-boss-Kenny-Dalglish-continues-tabs-Wigans-James-McCarthy.html#ixzz1LQoqpqM8
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Starting to think that McCarthy is ahead of Adam at the moment.
Good
I haven't seen enough of McCarthy. Is he much better than Jay Spearing?
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I haven't seen enough of McCarthy. Is he much better than Jay Spearing?
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He's a totally different player.
Think Fabregas as opposed to Spearing (in terms of style, not ability, obv).
I haven't seen enough of McCarthy. Is he much better than Jay Spearing?
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He's a totally different player.
Think Fabregas as opposed to Spearing (in terms of style, not ability, obv).
I certainly hope its McCarthy rather than Adam.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44707.msg1327112#msg1327112 date=1304581142]
I haven't seen enough of McCarthy. Is he much better than Jay Spearing?
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He's a totally different player.
Think Fabregas as opposed to Spearing (in terms of style, not ability, obv).
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Do we need him then? We've already got Gerrard and Ming for that central attacking midfield position. Not to mention Aquilani if we can't agree a fee with Juve.
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I haven't seen enough of McCarthy. Is he much better than Jay Spearing?
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He's a totally different player.
Think Fabregas as opposed to Spearing (in terms of style, not ability, obv).
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Do we need him then? We've already got Gerrard and Ming for that central attacking midfield position. Not to mention Aquilani if we can't agree a fee with Juve.
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Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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I like him, but if we're getting a midfielder surely it has to be a LM or RM
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We need a left sided AM and a CM and I'd say we'll buy one of each.
I like him, but if we're getting a midfielder surely it has to be a LM or RM
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We need a left sided AM and a CM and I'd say we'll buy one of each.
I disagree on Gerrard, Stu. There have been countless occasions where he's risen above the level of his team mates and got us a draw or win when the team has been playing poorly.
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Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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As Gene said, Gerrard doesn't shout at players... he elevates the teams capabilities on his own. That's what I meant.
We have too many players that are reliant on everything going to plan in order to perform. We need more players that can turn games around for us when we're struggling for whatever reason.
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Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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As Gene said, Gerrard doesn't shout at players... he elevates the teams capabilities on his own. That's what I meant.
We have too many players that are reliant on everything going to plan in order to perform. We need more players that can turn games around for us when we're struggling for whatever reason.
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I like him, but if we're getting a midfielder surely it has to be a LM or RM
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I think that depends on whether you think Lucas is good enough to start for us every week.
I don't and would like to see a CM of Gerrard & McCarthy as first choice next year with Lucas around the squad to fill in when needed.
I like him, but if we're getting a midfielder surely it has to be a LM or RM
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I think that depends on whether you think Lucas is good enough to start for us every week.
I don't and would like to see a CM of Gerrard & McCarthy as first choice next year with Lucas around the squad to fill in when needed.
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Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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As Gene said, Gerrard doesn't shout at players... he elevates the teams capabilities on his own. That's what I meant.
We have too many players that are reliant on everything going to plan in order to perform. We need more players that can turn games around for us when we're struggling for whatever reason.
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I'm inclined to agree. That's why I'm a lot happier about Suarez than I am about Carroll.
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Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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As Gene said, Gerrard doesn't shout at players... he elevates the teams capabilities on his own. That's what I meant.
We have too many players that are reliant on everything going to plan in order to perform. We need more players that can turn games around for us when we're struggling for whatever reason.
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I'm inclined to agree. That's why I'm a lot happier about Suarez than I am about Carroll.
Is McCarthy ready to sit on the bench? Not sure.
As it stands we're getting:
CB: 1st choice Jones (£8-10 Million)/ 2nd Cahill (£12-15 Million)
LB: 1st Enrique (£8-12 Million) / 2nd Baines (£12-15 Million)
CM: 1st McCarthy (£6-8 Million) / 2nd Adam (£7-10 Million)
ST: Wickham (£8-10 Million)
Might be one our most expensive summers ever, to bad it won't be any exciting world class players joining. The value of British players is a joke.( Estimates are from the papers)
As it stands we're getting:
CB: 1st choice Jones (£8-10 Million)/ 2nd Cahill (£12-15 Million)
LB: 1st Enrique (£8-12 Million) / 2nd Baines (£12-15 Million)
CM: 1st McCarthy (£6-8 Million) / 2nd Adam (£7-10 Million)
ST: Wickham (£8-10 Million)
Might be one our most expensive summers ever, to bad it won't be any exciting world class players joining. The value of British players is a joke.( Estimates are from the papers)
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Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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As Gene said, Gerrard doesn't shout at players... he elevates the teams capabilities on his own. That's what I meant.
We have too many players that are reliant on everything going to plan in order to perform. We need more players that can turn games around for us when we're struggling for whatever reason.
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Yeah, I would agree with you there Ken.
Right now, I don't think there is a young CM out there who could improve us dramatically in the short term and over the next 7/8 years.
He wouldn't be capable of a piece of magic like Suarez or Kuyt to change a game but he wouldn't stall the play with slow movement and sideways passing. I think we would attack far better with quicker ball from CM. Whats more he'd add a much needed bit if steel too, he really can tackle very well.
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=44707.msg1327244#msg1327244 date=1304597461]
Is he good enough to improve us and get the team going if his team-mates are playing poorly?
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Yes, he is good enough to improve us. Straight away our starting XI would be better.
Would he get others going? Not sure on that score just yet, he is still quite young.
I think he could grow and develop in the same way Gerrard has, he rarely gets people going when team mates are playing poorly either. He's never been known as a vocal captain.
Also, at Wigan, McCarthy would be surrounded by some pretty limited players and maybe feels shouting at guys who can't do better would have a negative affect? Maybe, maybe not but I think it is possible.
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As Gene said, Gerrard doesn't shout at players... he elevates the teams capabilities on his own. That's what I meant.
We have too many players that are reliant on everything going to plan in order to perform. We need more players that can turn games around for us when we're struggling for whatever reason.
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Yeah, I would agree with you there Ken.
Right now, I don't think there is a young CM out there who could improve us dramatically in the short term and over the next 7/8 years.
He wouldn't be capable of a piece of magic like Suarez or Kuyt to change a game but he wouldn't stall the play with slow movement and sideways passing. I think we would attack far better with quicker ball from CM. Whats more he'd add a much needed bit if steel too, he really can tackle very well.
This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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that price is not a gamble in light of his potential, current ability now and his sell on ability if things dont work out.
This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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that price is not a gamble in light of his potential, current ability now and his sell on ability if things dont work out.
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This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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We wont get him for 7m. Wigan recognize that and we will have to pay top dollar. I am thinking 15 million minimum.
This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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We wont get him for 7m. Wigan recognize that and we will have to pay top dollar. I am thinking 15 million minimum.
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[quote author=RedStar link=topic=44707.msg1327819#msg1327819 date=1304689955]
This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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We wont get him for 7m. Wigan recognize that and we will have to pay top dollar. I am thinking 15 million minimum.
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If they ask for £15 Million they can go *** themselves.
Hopefully he'll get disappointed and turn in a transfer request.
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=44707.msg1327819#msg1327819 date=1304689955]
This would be a great long term buy for us provided we eased him into the set up and didnt play him as a left winger or something daft like that. He will be serious player in about 18 months with the right coaching, at $7m its a bit of a gamble but I think his value will be 2 or 3 times that two years from now
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We wont get him for 7m. Wigan recognize that and we will have to pay top dollar. I am thinking 15 million minimum.
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If they ask for £15 Million they can go *** themselves.
Hopefully he'll get disappointed and turn in a transfer request.
Didn't you advocate paying £15-20m for cahill though?
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