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Dan Agger - A football thread

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Apparently it's Rob Mancini himself that has asked the Citeh owners to get their hands on Agger at all costs. It doesn't look too good from our perspective, unless of course you are an accountant.

- Roberto Mancini loves the way Agger combines technical based football with a winning mentality. It's Mancini in person who has demanded from City's owners that they buy Agger this window, says Stuart Brennan from Manchester Evening News to Danish newspaper B.T.
 
Khl - I read some of your comments in that other thread. If City were offering us 122M for him, you'd still mount a case for us not to accept it.
 
Khl - I read some of your comments in that other thread. If City were offering us 122M for him, you'd still mount a case for us not to accept it.

I would too if Daglish was spending it ... (Just to save you the comment! 😛)
 
if we could buy someone that has the potential to be as good as agger (and who isnt too far off), younger and not as injury prone, then it wouldnt be so bad, obviously its a tall order but it'll deffo be possible if we get 22+
 
A manager asking for a player? It's not THAT unusual, is it? Does Mancini usually have all his players foisted on him??
 
Khl - I read some of your comments in that other thread. If City were offering us 122M for him, you'd still mount a case for us not to accept it.
£122M is a lot of doh. I guess we could almost buy a new Stadium for that ammount. Deal.

Anyways if we indeed are offered the £22M or thereabouts I am not going to argue we haven't done a good bit of business.

A good bit of business mind isn't always the same as moving forward in terms of football and I'd be dead worried we'd have to go even further backwards before hitting bottom if we are selling our best players.

Having to endure watching him play for Citeh aren't exactly a prospect I am looking forward to either but I guess I'll have to accept that we've once and for all accepted we are not going to compete for top honours for a long while.

That would be my conclusion on the matter should we sell Agger at this point in time.

NB Keeping my fingers crossed Barca can meet our valuation as the loss would be somewhat less hurtful if he moved to another league.
 
A manager asking for a player? It's not THAT unusual, is it? Does Mancini usually have all his players foisted on him??
I guess you are right mate, but a manager 'demanding' for a player is probably less common I guess.
 
It all depends on who we replace him with.
When other clubs find out what we got for Agger, we'll be in another Torres-Carroll situation.
I don't think the money we get from selling him will be spent on another defender.
 
It all depends on who we replace him with.
When other clubs find out what we got for Agger, we'll be in another Torres-Carroll situation.
I don't think the money we get from selling him will be spent on another defender.
i guess, but its city, we'll have to pay over the odds for whoever we get in but they should pay an even higher percentage for dagger, it should work in theory anyways
 
Yeah I feel like getting a treat as well.


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Imagine if we had spend the £6M on Kompany a few years back.... Agger and Kompany has the making of an epic CB partnership.
 
Ave. appearances per season (all comps) : 26
Ave. League appearances per season : 18
Total games missed through injury since arriving for the 2005/6 season : 191 (thats 53%)
Total league games missed through injury since arriving for the 2005/6 season : 128 (52%)
Total months out at LFC : 24 months
Total ave % of season injured : 43%

Since 2006 he has missed 53% of all of our games.
Averages 3.6 months injured per season.
Averages 26 games (all comps) per season.

I really really like Agger .... but Carra is no longer an able deputy and Coates/Kelly aren't ready.

If Danny goes, if we get 20M for him and spend 12-15M on a very capable and younger (25-26) player, I'd be quite happy because over the course of a season it may benefit the team.
 
Not the best of stats, does it take into consideration that he spend almost the first half Season on the bench?

A lot of defenders are entering their prime years from 27 - 33 especially the ones not too reliant on pace why I'd be rather unconvinced if we replaced Agger with a young and upcoming defender. Coates for instance for all the praise he got in South America - young player of the Copa America too - has looked well of the pace for most games. So unless we are talking a £20M Hummels or Badstuber we'd struggle to replace him with a younger and equally capable defender imo.
 
Within the reams of Brendan Rodgers' 180-page dossier outlining his Liverpool vision there will be a chapter on the difficult decisions he deems necessary to take the club forward.

The new manager's appointment has coincided with FSG's resolve to act with more prudence in the transfer market following the extravagant spending under Kenny Dalglish, and Rodgers clearly has to make sacrifices to bring in the new faces, such as Joe Allen, that he views as being essential to his plans.

Despite hinting at a willingness to allow Andy Carroll to depart, the striker's spurned move to West Ham has left Rodgers with a headache over how he can generate the funds to cover Allen's release clause and find the new right winger the Reds desperately need - Man City's interest in Daniel Agger may have presented the Liverpool boss with the perfect answer to his quandary.

No manager would be delighted to lose one of his best players, but at £20million Agger is worth more to Liverpool in cold, hard cash than he is on the pitch or in the treatment room.

Indeed, only twice has the defender made more than 23 Premier League appearances in six full seasons at Anfield and there is as much an element of risk in keeping such an injury-prone player as there is in accepting an offer that represents excellent value and offers the chance to rebuild at the right time.

There will be Liverpool supporters that oppose a move that both weakens the first team and strengthens a Premier League opponent, but the Reds are no longer rivals with Man City and have to view their challenges this season accordingly. On the back of such a dreadful campaign that signalled significant overhaul above the playing squad, Rodgers must be allowed to manoeuvre as he sees fit - Agger's departure could equip the manager with the means to progress his own plans.

The exits of Dirk Kuyt and Maxi Rodriguez, as well as Craig Bellamy's expected departure, have left Liverpool light on numbers in attack, and unless Rodgers is shrewd in his business over the next three weeks the Reds will enter their daunting early fixture list with the risk of seeing their top six aspirations immediately quashed.

Therefore at this stage the manager has to find a balance between quantity and quality and a £20million centre-back is a luxury the Reds cannot afford. It is a similar predicament to that of Everton who, despite barely having a penny to spend, intend to hold onto £12million left-back Leighton Baines.

Considering Agger's struggles with injury, Liverpool have never been able to rely on him consistently. Sebastian Coates is likely to step up this season and the fee received for the Dane can be spread over another centre-back - perhaps an offer to tempt Tottenham into selling Steven Caulker - and filling the gap on the right wing.

If FSG had been given more encouragement by their hefty investment in Carroll, Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson, there may have been more money available to gamble this summer. However, given the failure of their previous approach, they have opted for what they see as a safe bet in Rodgers - a manager who brought considerable success to Swansea in a relatively short period of time for little cost.

It will take more time for Rodgers to impress his ideas at Anfield - where he must lay the foundations of his philosophy rather than continue the work of his predecessors - and this thought was more arresting after watching the Reds' rather haphazard performance against FC Gomel.

Of course, conclusions cannot be drawn at this early stage, but with matches against last season's top three coming in the first five fixtures of the new campaign, it will be something of a baptism of fire for Rodgers, and Agger will be of relatively little use if the gaps further forward have not been plugged.
 
hmm, that article seems to suggest that we need to sell agger to raise the money to buy a winger and allen, then suggests that it will also give us money to buy another centre back, doesnt really add up
 
Whilst £22million is a decent price for Agger, i still struggle to see how we could improve ourselves that much with it. To bring in someone as good we'd need to spend most of that, if not all, and tbh, I doubt we could attract a player of his calibre.
 
Good read mate. I bet that piece isn't far from the truth and to be honest for every Liverpool fan around that's one disheartening outlook.

No one will argue that Agger hasn't been too injured, he has, but as he actually played a lot last Season and now looks stronger than ever why it's obvious that his history with injuries is now used as an excuse to part with one of our arguably best players - cashing in.

And here was I thinking that the NEW American owners would be different from the last ones. So far they are somehow managing to take the same dodgy path they did. And yeah they spend A LOT on Carroll, Henderson and Downing, but with the fee for Torres taken into the equation not that much really. At least not anywhere near enough to justify this defensive looking strategy asking the new manager to do wonders with kids and prospects.
 
*There's of course always hope it's all smoke and mirrors and that both Allen, Sahin and Eriksen are about to sign and we'll win everything in 12 months time.
 
Oh dear, what a grim summer this is turning out to be. So far it's the worst summer ever (excluding hindsight).
 
So far FSG have invested a net 36M into the club. I do feel, and have said this before, given they bought the club for a song, they should be more willing to invest in personnel. DO it now, before your asset depreciates even further, when it will be even more expensive down the road.
 
Agger didnt look like a player being forced out of the club in the training pictures. Read on another forum that we have offered Danny Agger a new contract and that we'll only sell him for a ridiculous amount of money.
 
Not the best of stats, does it take into consideration that he spend almost the first half Season on the bench?

2005/6 - out for 4 months
2006/7 - not injured
2007/8 - 8 months
2008/9 - 3 months
2009/10 - 2 months
2010/11 - 5 months
2011/12 - 2 months
 
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