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England vs Wales, Euro 2016, Thursday 16th June

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Deserves it's own thread.

So Ramsey ("I believe we have the best team. We've been through a lot. We're seeing the rewards.") & Bale ("They big themselves up before they've done anything, so we're going to go there and believe we can beat them. "I think we've got a lot more passion and pride about us than them. We'll definitely show that on the day. I don't know what it is but, if you're Welsh, we feel more pride and passion than anyone else) have started throwing the barbs though happily it seems no English player has risen to the bait.

Quite the contrary, Lallana has been very complimentary. Though Wilshere, when asked, admitted no love was lost and added "If you put both teams down on paper, we would win the game."

Bale appears to be revelling in the verbal sparring ahead of Thursday’s Group B game in Lens and took the opportunity to have another dig when asked how many England players would warrant a place in manager Chris Coleman’s selection. ‘None,’ he replied and he was later backed up by Ramsey who, when asked the same question, said: ‘The same as Gareth — none.’

BBC have a selector for a combined team here so how many Welsh would make your combined team : http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36516979

I really have a hard time picking any Welsh players over their English counterparts, with the obvious exceptions of Ramsey & Bale.

I fervently hope we shove Ramsey's words back down his arrogant throat ! I'll go 3-1 England and my combined team is below (Walker over Clyne for his attacking, Rose because I like his aggression and he's had a great season. Sturridge over Kane because when space is limited he's the man - and he's a better box player for me. Vardy's pace would have any team shitting themselves.

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The Times reported yesterday that Woy will pick the same team as against Russia. If true I can see Wales getting a draw.
 
I think Wales will do well this tournament.

With the possible exception of tomorrow, I think they'll not try to outplay anyone, but rather keep things tight & rely on bale getting them a goal, or tying defenders up enough to let someone else get the odd one.

Greece did it with a much worse side, & Wales are much fitter imo than that side.

They could well go far. The best chance England have tomorrow imo is Wales trying to go out gung ho instead of boxing clever, if they don't however, it'll be pretty even & should be a decent match.
 
Bale has already scored more free kicks in international tournaments than Cristiano Ronaldo.
 
Sterling out, Milner in. And Sturridge for lallana.

England to win 2-1.

If woy picks the same team that played Russia I can see a score draw. Whatever team plays, we will see more of the ball it just depends how effective we are with it
 
Mouthy cunts, "they big themselves up before they've done anything", have we really? Says the guy claiming they are the better team and are good enough to win it, because they're in it for the first time in years.

I hope we smash them now.
 
Mouthy cunts, "they big themselves up before they've done anything", have we really? Says the guy claiming they are the better team and are good enough to win it, because they're in it for the first time in years.

I hope we smash them now.

Hooligan!!!!!
 
Mouthy cunts, "they big themselves up before they've done anything", have we really? Says the guy claiming they are the better team and are good enough to win it, because they're in it for the first time in years.

I hope we smash them now.

Last player to score against Wales in an international tournament prior to the Slovakian goal, was Pele. Now thats some time ago.....
 
Mouthy cunts, "they big themselves up before they've done anything", have we really? Says the guy claiming they are the better team and are good enough to win it, because they're in it for the first time in years.

I hope we smash them now.

All seemed a little needless didn't it? I didn't see any England players big themselves up. Still hope Wales win though.
 
Sterling out, Milner in. And Sturridge for lallana.

England to win 2-1.

If woy picks the same team that played Russia I can see a score draw. Whatever team plays, we will see more of the ball it just depends how effective we are with it


lallana was decent in the last game..

Kane was useless..

Studge for Kane...
 
Tough game, Wales will be happy with a draw so will keep it tight while England have to win really.

We played well against Russia, freakish goal in injury time denied a deserved win (NB why didn't Hart get some blame, he just watched the ball loop over his head ffs) and I would keep the same team but with Sturridge instead of Kane.

Hodgson fucked up the substitutions and can't be so stupid again, Vardy has to come on to stretch their defence a lot earlier for a start.
 
It really shouldn't be a tough game - the wales team is largely bang average prem players.
 
Wales are probably a better Team than Russia at the moment, we could only manage a draw against Russia, so I expect a Welsh win..
 
I do like the way bale doesnt just glare at everyone if they do stuff wrong. Like gerrard, ronaldo etc.
 
And the England team is what? A gang of superstars?

The game has got draw written all over it.

I think even you are smart enough to work out that the likes of Cahill, Smalling, Kane, Hart etc. are a step above Ledley, Robson-Kanu, Ward et al.
 
I was wrong, England is a very good team and a favorite to win the tournament.
 
This is gonna be the first game of the tournament that I miss! I'm flying over for the Croatia v Czech game on Friday (meeting some Czech mates over there) and stupidly didn't czech check the fixtures before I booked my flight! England will win a scrappy game 2-0.
 
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