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"In defence of FSGs Transfer Policy"

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"It’s similar with transfers; people expect too many successes. With Graeme Riley and others at the Transfer Price Index, we have looked at all Premier League transfers, as well as calculating actual football inflation. We have been working on this for five years, looking at over 5,000 deals, and are currently working on a second book on the subject."

"It shows how much you must spend to win the title, and it shows that irrespective of net or gross spend, Liverpool’s squad (and from it, its XI) has never been expensive enough. Frankly, it’s not even been close.
Let me put it to you like this. In 2008/09, Liverpool’s £XI (all 38 XIs adjusted for inflation to 2014 money) was £142m.
Last season, Liverpool’s £XI was £143m." Given that the teams were very different, and that the managers had very different CVs and styles, it’s a weirdly similar total that led to 2nd place finishes with 86 and 84 points respectively

Let those figures sink in. £142m-143m. Almost identical. Now, the cheapest £XI to win the title since Arsenal in 2004? A whopping £210m. That’s the cheapest. It’s not the average. Most of the time the title-winning £XI has been over £300m, plucked from £600m squads."
 
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iffythebiffy said:
Thought provoking bit at the end where he defends Comolli
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Paul Tomkins has made a career covering up the clubs stupidity and would find the positives in being assraped by a rusty fork. I have up reading his shite years ago and I'm in no mood to change now.
 
Tomkins is a good writer and does his research. I've often said that we should spend more but it gets drowned out by those who insist that we should somehow work smarter, do more with less is etcetera.

The gap is too big to have high expectations, we need to be an exceptional team with our current spending.
 
I didnt see any mathematical model?

Anyway, I'd hazard a guess that its still the size of the wage bill that's the most important thing - and it's coincidental that those teams are the ones with the highest transfer spending.
 
jexykrodic said:
Tomkins is a good writer and does his research. I've often said that we should spend more but it gets drowned out by those who insist that we should somehow work smarter, do more with less is etcetera.

The gap is too big to have high expectations, we need to be an exceptional team with our current spending.
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Your inspiring and ambitious idea is to get us kicked out of Europe and bankrupt the club.

Bring back Rata and the Cowboys!
 
Does he conclude anywhere that whilst we might not be spending enough to challenge for the title consistently we are spending enough to get top 4 every year?

I'm going to hazard a guess at no?
 
FoxForceFive said:
I can't read Tompkins stuff.

It makes me want to beat my head into a wall repeatedly for some reason.
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The very fact you're willing to bash your head against the wall shows the very kinds of passion towards your club that only Liverpool fans possess. This passion and courage is what will guide this Liverpool team to the greatest epsilons of the premier league, where this magic from the best fans in the world, the tactical brilliance of our revolutionary up and coming talented manager, and the passion, determination and spirit that you'd only see from this courageous young Liverpool team, led by their honourable steward and captain Steven Gerrard, will lead to this unlikely and disadvantaged club to conquer all in their path. Keep the faith Liverpool fans, Jon Fox's display of passion is just another example of why we, Liverpool football club, are the greatest club on this planet, and why we will return back to the top, to where we belong.
 
Rosco said:
I didnt see any mathematical model?

Anyway, I'd hazard a guess that its still the size of the wage bill that's the most important thing - and it's coincidental that those teams are the ones with the highest transfer spending.
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Transfer Price Index (TPI) (paragraph 3) but it's taken from a chapter in his book, and he's not giving it out. Balls
 
That's so fucking spot on it hurts. Ace research and really informative. And it takes 5 mins to read.
 
Rosco said:
Your inspiring and ambitious idea is to get us kicked out of Europe and bankrupt the club.

Bring back Rata and the Cowboys!
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Your ideas and conclusions aren't mine. I said the gap is now too big and our expectations consequently too high. Tompkins backs up his argument well in the article and it comprehensively dismisses the wasted money argument in comparison with the rest of the League. We'd have to be freakishly efficient and mistake free to confound the odds.
 
Mystic said:
Are you Tomkins?
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Hehe, many here might think I'm boring enough to be...

I think the FFP point is valid and the ratio of success in regards to transfers is spot on. Taking into account what FSG inherited we are heading in the right direction. I think he is extremely well informed, well documented and at a level where few others can claim to be our even follow.

Discarding him and this information is borderline ignorant.

That's what I think.
 
Rosco said:
I didnt see any mathematical model?

Anyway, I'd hazard a guess that its still the size of the wage bill that's the most important thing - and it's coincidental that those teams are the ones with the highest transfer spending.
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I can see it. But I see things like that.

He gathered some data. Put it in excel. Then plotted it. Applied a trendline. Copied down the equation of the trendline. Then walked around thinking it is his mathematical model which people need to read to "get it".

A correlation is not a mathematical model. To get a mathematical model, he needs to understand football, and transfers, some physics, and some psychology. Basically Tomkins is a fool. A boring one too.
 
dantes said:
I can see it. But I see things like that.

He gathered some data. Put it in excel. Then plotted it. Applied a trendline. Copied down the equation of the trendline. Then walked around thinking it is his mathematical model which people need to read to "get it".

A correlation is not a mathematical model. To get a mathematical model, he needs to understand football, and transfers, some physics, and some psychology. Basically Tomkins is a fool. A boring one too.
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I see a lack of a counter argument and a consequent attempt to disparage the author. Too easy.
 
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