I think it's because you're talking nonsense on this one. There are quite obviously still players that genuinely care on the pitch.
Is it just me...?
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I think it's because you're talking nonsense on this one. There are quite obviously still players that genuinely care on the pitch.
Fine. 90% dont give a fuck.
Dramatically different view on the whole of the sport now. Oh my god my eyes have been opened
Get to fuck
Calm down Asim.
Glad I'm not the only imposter on the site.
I've literally not bothered with football for a few years now, I think that year we came second under Brodgers killed me off. Klopp rekindled that for a while and I'll watch the games but it's limited.
This whole superleague thing will just kill it off completely I think.
I've literally not bothered with football for a few years now, I think that year we came second under Brodgers killed me off. Klopp rekindled that for a while and I'll watch the games but it's limited.
This whole superleague thing will just kill it off completely I think.
I'm clearly an anomaly, but I don't think I've been effected to much.
I still watch all the games. Quite often on dodgy streams, so I'm so used to muting the streams that no crowd noise doesn't bother me. I actually find it quite interesting to hear the players. The fake crowd noise does my head in, so BTs coverage is dreadful...however I've always them anyway as soon as I hear the first squeak from McMoneyman or Judas. I've always mentally blocked a lot of the commentators out or taken it with a pinch of salt, so I don't have the obsession with it some of the posters on here do. Carra and Neville are quite insightful at times, and a cut above the monotone, cliché ridden nonsence that twats like Shearer come out with.
Var has made the game slightly worse. This has mostly been due to complete ineptitude in it's application rather than any any technical failings.
I haven't been watching most other games since Budgie season, as it destroyed my love of football but last season rejuvenated that a lot.
The only annoying thing was the lack of celebrations for winning the title. I'm sure we'll get something eventually but it wont be what it could have been.
I still watch all the games. Quite often on dodgy streams, so I'm so used to muting the streams that no crowd noise doesn't bother me. I actually find it quite interesting to hear the players. The fake crowd noise does my head in, so BTs coverage is dreadful...however I've always them anyway as soon as I hear the first squeak from McMoneyman or Judas. I've always mentally blocked a lot of the commentators out or taken it with a pinch of salt, so I don't have the obsession with it some of the posters on here do. Carra and Neville are quite insightful at times, and a cut above the monotone, cliché ridden nonsence that twats like Shearer come out with.
Var has made the game slightly worse. This has mostly been due to complete ineptitude in it's application rather than any any technical failings.
I haven't been watching most other games since Budgie season, as it destroyed my love of football but last season rejuvenated that a lot.
The only annoying thing was the lack of celebrations for winning the title. I'm sure we'll get something eventually but it wont be what it could have been.
Fatigue is a good word, but I think GKmacca's posts mirror my sentiments most closely (with one small difference - I don't mind Carragher).
I'm not excited about games anymore, and this is the best team we've had in my lifetime, but I'm not excited to see them play. I think us winning the league and not being able to celebrate it with the team in the form of a parade or whatever was a bit of a blow, but it's not just that.
The lead up to every game is dominated by whatever shallow soundbites the press seem to be regurgitating this week. For tonight's game, they're all eagerly lapping up Mourinho's comments and repeating them, like some sort of snivelling seat sniffer desperate not to upset whoever's arse they're smelling, going at great lengths to tell them how wonderful the aroma is. There is no context, no nuance. Everything is said to provoke a reaction and generate debate and interest. Truth doesn't matter anymore.
Then we have the sickeningly sleek, polished appearance of every single game, all falling in line with the BRAND. Tyler's "and it's LIVE!" Alex Scott, or some other woman, who was probably a worse footballer than me (oops, that's me cancelled!) lecturing the masses and Sounness and Keane, offering tactical insight. Fuck off. You're only there because everyone is shit scared to not appear inclusive.
Actual content is secondary now, that's irrelevant. Be liberal and progressive. As annoying as Thommo, Nicholas, Merson, Le Tissier were, they were professionals who played and won at the top of the game, or if they didn't succeed in doing that, they certainly had the talent to do so.
Now, we're stuck with Gabby Agbonlahor, Clinton Morrison, Alex Scott, Darren Bent, Eni Aluko, all chuntering out incomprehensible shite, getting players' names wrong. But they either have the right skin colour, or the right bits between their legs. I was actually flicking through the channels a while back, and saw these two complete and utter randoms on Sky Sports News (turns out they were fucking YouTubers for God's sake!) debating and analysing games in the studio. Again, content is irrelevant. Everything is about the sizzle, forget the steak.
Fine. You can shut a lot of that out and avoid any media coverage, and the majority of the time I do. Although, the fact I have to go to such lengths is sad in itself when I want genuine, articulate, well-thought discussion of the game I love/d.
So, the matches themselves. Not to speak about BLM, but every game starts off with this meaningless gesture - more sizzle - and the league has painted themselves into this corner and now it has become routine. Are they every going to stop it? Is it here forever like prematch handshakes - sorry, fistbumps - now? Will they stop next season? Will they stop when racism is eradicated? Ha! That'll never be gone. So, imagine the uproar in the first game they don't do it. Can't be seen to look like we're not inclusive!
The horrendous luck we've been having with injuries is obviously a kick in the stones and disheartening, but it can happen. So I could get over it in isolation.
Then we come to VAR. Jesus Christ. I could waffle for ages again, but I'm conscious of how much I've done that already. I'm not even one of these that says it's ruining goal celebrations - although it is - but that was never the main point for me. I thought when it came in, that it was there to flag up those egregious errors. Hand of God, off the ball incidents, brainfarts from officials (it can happen, we're human). But now, it's being used by overly officious meffs desperate for that ego boost, frantically searching for ways to disallow goals using the most mind-numbing, hamstringing, bureaucratic rules I've ever seen. I honestly don't know what's going on anymore. Every. Single. Game something happens that has me throw up my arms into the air exclaiming "I don't know what this game is anymore." Every game. Our games most commonly so.
The Derby was the greatest example of this. Virgil's injury. Still, to this day, I think he's onside. Even his fucking elbow is onside. Someone's ankle is playing him on. Look at that sentence by the way - look at what I'm talking about. But okay, fine. If you want to be that picky about it, maybe he's offside (after you've spent 8 minutes looking for something to justify your existence, Mr Coote in Stockley Park), and it's not a penalty for that wild and dangerous challenge, but at least now you can discipline Pickford for endangering an opponent. Nope. Hands are tied. Offside wipes out everything following. More inane bureaucracy.
Then the Mane winner. Again, I still cannot see the offside two months later. If it's still not clear and obvious (oh how I hate those words) after 10 seconds, nevermind TWO FUCKING MONTHS, then just fucking leave it.
Fabinho cleanly tackled a man outside the box. Decision? Penalty, because, well, why not. Fabinho's tackle against Fulham intensely scrutinised for about 5 minutes, but a clear two-handed shove on Salah is ignored because... reasons. Wellbeck goes down like a lump of shite after minimal contact in the last minute and robs us off two points, but then an identical challenge in the Leeds and Chelsea game a couple of days later is ignored? Yeah, why not.
Kane can cynically and dangerously wipe players out outside the box while they're in mid air, and actually win penalties for his team. A goalkeeper's heel can be millimetres off his line as he makes a penalty save, only for it all to be taken away as we've seen several times this season. Man Utd flop to the ground every game and win penalties.
There was a goal, I can't remember which one, but there was no hint of offside or a foul in the build up, (could've been Jota against West Ham), and I was just still sat there waiting for them to disallow it for some reason.
I'm not saying VAR is a conspiracy against us, it's just a complete and utter wildcard. A neutralizer. A chimp wielding a machine gun. Anything can happen, and now that it's in the game, I'm constantly on edge about what it's going to fuck up next. It's like an asteroid hurtling towards us, and it's going to wipe something out and ruin all the hard work, you just don't know when and where.
Anyway, I've done my own head in typing that out. There's more, but that's just basically what I could commit to the page at this point in time.
I'm not excited about games anymore, and this is the best team we've had in my lifetime, but I'm not excited to see them play. I think us winning the league and not being able to celebrate it with the team in the form of a parade or whatever was a bit of a blow, but it's not just that.
The lead up to every game is dominated by whatever shallow soundbites the press seem to be regurgitating this week. For tonight's game, they're all eagerly lapping up Mourinho's comments and repeating them, like some sort of snivelling seat sniffer desperate not to upset whoever's arse they're smelling, going at great lengths to tell them how wonderful the aroma is. There is no context, no nuance. Everything is said to provoke a reaction and generate debate and interest. Truth doesn't matter anymore.
Then we have the sickeningly sleek, polished appearance of every single game, all falling in line with the BRAND. Tyler's "and it's LIVE!" Alex Scott, or some other woman, who was probably a worse footballer than me (oops, that's me cancelled!) lecturing the masses and Sounness and Keane, offering tactical insight. Fuck off. You're only there because everyone is shit scared to not appear inclusive.
Actual content is secondary now, that's irrelevant. Be liberal and progressive. As annoying as Thommo, Nicholas, Merson, Le Tissier were, they were professionals who played and won at the top of the game, or if they didn't succeed in doing that, they certainly had the talent to do so.
Now, we're stuck with Gabby Agbonlahor, Clinton Morrison, Alex Scott, Darren Bent, Eni Aluko, all chuntering out incomprehensible shite, getting players' names wrong. But they either have the right skin colour, or the right bits between their legs. I was actually flicking through the channels a while back, and saw these two complete and utter randoms on Sky Sports News (turns out they were fucking YouTubers for God's sake!) debating and analysing games in the studio. Again, content is irrelevant. Everything is about the sizzle, forget the steak.
Fine. You can shut a lot of that out and avoid any media coverage, and the majority of the time I do. Although, the fact I have to go to such lengths is sad in itself when I want genuine, articulate, well-thought discussion of the game I love/d.
So, the matches themselves. Not to speak about BLM, but every game starts off with this meaningless gesture - more sizzle - and the league has painted themselves into this corner and now it has become routine. Are they every going to stop it? Is it here forever like prematch handshakes - sorry, fistbumps - now? Will they stop next season? Will they stop when racism is eradicated? Ha! That'll never be gone. So, imagine the uproar in the first game they don't do it. Can't be seen to look like we're not inclusive!
The horrendous luck we've been having with injuries is obviously a kick in the stones and disheartening, but it can happen. So I could get over it in isolation.
Then we come to VAR. Jesus Christ. I could waffle for ages again, but I'm conscious of how much I've done that already. I'm not even one of these that says it's ruining goal celebrations - although it is - but that was never the main point for me. I thought when it came in, that it was there to flag up those egregious errors. Hand of God, off the ball incidents, brainfarts from officials (it can happen, we're human). But now, it's being used by overly officious meffs desperate for that ego boost, frantically searching for ways to disallow goals using the most mind-numbing, hamstringing, bureaucratic rules I've ever seen. I honestly don't know what's going on anymore. Every. Single. Game something happens that has me throw up my arms into the air exclaiming "I don't know what this game is anymore." Every game. Our games most commonly so.
The Derby was the greatest example of this. Virgil's injury. Still, to this day, I think he's onside. Even his fucking elbow is onside. Someone's ankle is playing him on. Look at that sentence by the way - look at what I'm talking about. But okay, fine. If you want to be that picky about it, maybe he's offside (after you've spent 8 minutes looking for something to justify your existence, Mr Coote in Stockley Park), and it's not a penalty for that wild and dangerous challenge, but at least now you can discipline Pickford for endangering an opponent. Nope. Hands are tied. Offside wipes out everything following. More inane bureaucracy.
Then the Mane winner. Again, I still cannot see the offside two months later. If it's still not clear and obvious (oh how I hate those words) after 10 seconds, nevermind TWO FUCKING MONTHS, then just fucking leave it.
Fabinho cleanly tackled a man outside the box. Decision? Penalty, because, well, why not. Fabinho's tackle against Fulham intensely scrutinised for about 5 minutes, but a clear two-handed shove on Salah is ignored because... reasons. Wellbeck goes down like a lump of shite after minimal contact in the last minute and robs us off two points, but then an identical challenge in the Leeds and Chelsea game a couple of days later is ignored? Yeah, why not.
Kane can cynically and dangerously wipe players out outside the box while they're in mid air, and actually win penalties for his team. A goalkeeper's heel can be millimetres off his line as he makes a penalty save, only for it all to be taken away as we've seen several times this season. Man Utd flop to the ground every game and win penalties.
There was a goal, I can't remember which one, but there was no hint of offside or a foul in the build up, (could've been Jota against West Ham), and I was just still sat there waiting for them to disallow it for some reason.
I'm not saying VAR is a conspiracy against us, it's just a complete and utter wildcard. A neutralizer. A chimp wielding a machine gun. Anything can happen, and now that it's in the game, I'm constantly on edge about what it's going to fuck up next. It's like an asteroid hurtling towards us, and it's going to wipe something out and ruin all the hard work, you just don't know when and where.
Anyway, I've done my own head in typing that out. There's more, but that's just basically what I could commit to the page at this point in time.
Plus Fucking Raheem Sterling is turned into a role model.
Well, I'm bucking the trend a little. With little else to do, (often I might be working when we play, but not due to covid) watching us play is a highlight of the week. I like having 2 matches.
I love the character of our team which is important to me.
Enjoying us being the best team in the World. It won't last forever, so I'm savouring it while we're awesome.
I love the character of our team which is important to me.
Enjoying us being the best team in the World. It won't last forever, so I'm savouring it while we're awesome.
This is right - also the character and sheer likability of our manager. Winning the league was fantastic, and, though frustrated at going into every game hampered by injuries, I see so much to admire about this group (sorry for the Rogers-ism) of players.
I'm tired. I'm very, very tired. Of most things.
It's been a cunt of a year. Apart from all the stuff with Covid and the anxiety that's brought, I have two teenage daughters who are good, but they're teenage girls, so there's that, the job is in flux, and I lost my Mam in the summer... I care about very little other than the three ladies in my life and my family at the moment.
Funny thing is, though that includes football in general, LFC have been my escape so many times this year... They don't ruin my day when they lose points like they once did, and I don't lose sleep about their upcoming matches, but I do still lose myself in the matches as they're happening, and for just a few hours a week, life isn't mostly an enormous pile of shite.
Couldn't tell you the last time that I watched a match that LFC aren't playing in, and don't care if I never see another international game again... But Liverpool will always be there, they'll always be important, they'll always take me back to being 10 years old again, and they've helped me when I've needed some normality, desperately.
So, yes, football as a sport is bollocks now. But Liverpool FC will always be f#$!ing magic.
It's been a cunt of a year. Apart from all the stuff with Covid and the anxiety that's brought, I have two teenage daughters who are good, but they're teenage girls, so there's that, the job is in flux, and I lost my Mam in the summer... I care about very little other than the three ladies in my life and my family at the moment.
Funny thing is, though that includes football in general, LFC have been my escape so many times this year... They don't ruin my day when they lose points like they once did, and I don't lose sleep about their upcoming matches, but I do still lose myself in the matches as they're happening, and for just a few hours a week, life isn't mostly an enormous pile of shite.
Couldn't tell you the last time that I watched a match that LFC aren't playing in, and don't care if I never see another international game again... But Liverpool will always be there, they'll always be important, they'll always take me back to being 10 years old again, and they've helped me when I've needed some normality, desperately.
So, yes, football as a sport is bollocks now. But Liverpool FC will always be f#$!ing magic.
Shut up Hal
so ... so i screamed when salah scored, i cursed the screen with that goal by son, broke my headphones when taylor called a foul on mane for destroying Aurier again and then woke up my wife and 2 of the kids ... ok, so i still love liverpool - does that count as being tired of football?
All you guys done with football, you hopefully that picked you up a bit 
Head up mate.
At the end of a storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark
Sounds like it ... the TV remained unbroken.
I'll be honest, I couldn't enjoy that winner as much as I would have in the past. I saw a white shirt go down and was just waiting for the VAR logo to pop up. It's still shite.
Ya if you didn’t enjoy the end to that game then probably no chance getting the love back.
Also, didn’t look like Firmino was afraid to celebrate his goal before a VAR check.
And certainly looked like a player that cares.
Loved that celebration.
And certainly looked like a player that cares.
Loved that celebration.
TBF it's Christmas and he's not been getting his goal scoring bonuses recently has he. I'd be elated too
ah yeah me too. It was so nice to see some normality returning - made me sad and hopeful.
well all battle through this year but at times we need to release and that’s it. Take care man.
Ha
That baptism pool won't fund itself
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Using impact as a verb says it all.
You're so far up your own arse that you always fail miserably to acknowledge any different point of view. Just try for once to answer a post without your pompous attitude as if you're the one and only breed of fan and you came down to earth to educate all the others. It's tiresome.
A discussion board may be the wrong place for you, Mr Superfan.
I don't wanna be all down on footy but I just can't see a time when I'm going to want to go back to Anfield. I hate VAR so much, it's really ruined the reason for being at the game. I couldn't even be arsed going to the pub last night because I feel as if I'm not watching the match intently and if I haven't got this board and WhatsApp open I don't know what the fuck is going on for at least ten mins of the game.
I did go slightly nuts when Firmino scored last night but it was still there. The wait. The worry that some bullshit was going to steal the goal. And Son was offside. They just pick a frame at random. It's fucked it all up for me. But I can't stop watching, it's all I know. It would be like giving up wanking because you'd gone off porn. Impossible.
I did go slightly nuts when Firmino scored last night but it was still there. The wait. The worry that some bullshit was going to steal the goal. And Son was offside. They just pick a frame at random. It's fucked it all up for me. But I can't stop watching, it's all I know. It would be like giving up wanking because you'd gone off porn. Impossible.
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