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It was all in their mind

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Have Liverpool 'Flops' Been Fixed By Brain Mechanic?


Before playing Manchester United earlier this month, Brendan Rodgers talked about how he had restored some value to Jordan Henderson, Jose Enrique and Stewart Downing. In fairness to Liverpool's manager, even his archest critics would have to agree that each has been much improved of late - even if the Rodgers spiel smacked of more than a little self-promotion. So what could be behind the changes that have left all three players looking, well, decent?

Perhaps it was an encouraging arm round the shoulder from the gaffer or even fear of Brendan's sinister Derren Brown envelopes that has brought about the improvement. Or maybe the impending transfer window helped focus the players' minds. Perhaps it was a combination of all of these things - or none of them at all. It could simply be that each has just settled down to life at Anfield and found their feet.

But there is another interesting possibility - Brendan Rodgers' decision to hire the man they call the 'brain mechanic', Dr Steve Peters, at the tail end of November. Some of you will have recognised the name immediately. For those who are unfamiliar with the good doctor, Peters is the sports psychiatrist who was seen as central to the overwhelming success of the British Cycling squad in recent years.

When plotting the road to success for the cyclists, their lauded manager Dave Brailsford sought to assemble a team of experts not just to manage the athletes - but to support them in every conceivable way, both mental and physical.

Brailsford is a great believer in the idea that a focus on small details can bring numerous incremental gains, the kinds of gains that can make the difference in top level sport. Peters was headhunted to strengthen the 'mental architecture' of the likes of Chris Hoy and Victoria Pendleton, and if their testimony is anything to go by, he succeeded in furnishing them with a critical mental edge.

Brendan Rodgers holds similar beliefs to Brailsford - and without the money to compete in the transfer market with the league's big guns, feels he must explore other ways to chip away at their advantage. In making the appointment, the Liverpool manager explained that with so much emphasis in football being placed on technical, tactical and physical training, the mental side of things can be ignored.

Peters has been hired to address this issue. As a psychiatrist, he will delve deeper than the sports psychologists that are now commonly used by football clubs and do more than just coach positive thinking techniques. Peters focuses on identifying flaws in an athlete's mental architecture, flaws that when the pressure is on will undermine any positive thinking technique and inhibit the athlete's performance. The brain mechanic offers an enabling approach that helps athletes manage the way they operate under pressure, with the emphasis on differentiating between emotional and logical thinking. The logical part of the brain, according to Peters, is what an athlete must access to enhance performance; the emotional, irrational part of the brain, the source of doubts that foster inhibition and cloud decision making, must be switched off.

Definitively ascertaining whether an athlete's performance is improving because of psychiatric consultation is extremely difficult - something Peters freely admitted to Brailsford when initially asked to work with the cycling squad. But according to Peters (in an interview for the Leaders in Performance organisation last year) Brailsford "accepted that while some things can't be measured, you can still recognise the outcomes. That outcome may not be directly attributable to the psych work but it correlates with it. In other words when you start seeing trends and correlations, it's clear that it's working".

Could this explain the improvement we are seeing in Henderson, Downing, Enrqiue - and even in Joe Cole (now back at West Ham)? Henderson's brilliant goal and Downing's wonderful assist in Saturday's thrashing of Norwich are obvious examples of growing confidence. But pehaps the longer-term trend has been a discernible change in attitude in both players. For far too long, both played in fear - concerned about abuse from the stands, they kept things simple, did everything easy, kept the ball red. But neither was really impacting the game - neither was doing what they were bought to do. Downing's inhibitions became all the more glaring when you compared his efforts to the fearless, positive play of Raheem Sterling.

But in recent months, you can see a change, most marked in the willingness of both players to try things, to be positive, to affect the game. Are these the kinds of outcomes that Peters talked about with Brailsford? Who knows for sure - but there is a correlation, at least in terms of time, with Peters' appointment by Rodgers and the improved form of the two England internationals (and cole and Enrique).

If Peters had not gained renown with the all-conquering cycling team, his appointment might just be seen as more hocus-pocus from Rodgers. But given his reputation, the man who earlier in his career spent 12 years working to make dangerous psychotics less of a threat to society, might well be at least partly responsible for making Downing and Henderson more of a menace to Premier League opponents.

Paul Little - find him on Twitter @little_football
 
With Downing and Henderson, I always said it was a mind thing. Lack of confidence or whatever you want to call it. Glad to see them improving.
 
And the cost of getting an incremental improvement in the performance of losers like Henderson and Downing, is that the winners like Gerrard and Suarez will think their boss is a fucking fruit loop.
 
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Both players are contributing more and more, and credit must be given to them ... as well as Rodgers for instilling in them the urgency of needing to perform. This isn't Villa or Sunderland.
 
If you saw any of that Sky Cycling Team programme you'll know, as I do, that the team shrink is a nobhead who goes on about the inner chimp etc. Fits perfectly with Rodgers' Brent-style musings. Luckily a lot of footballers are dim as a new ecologically friendly bulb, so they probably think he's amazing. Either that or he's a genius. I hope he is. I hope I'm wrong again.
 
Downing admitted that he was stung by that criticism, and again when Rodgers told him he could find a new club. But the winger gave credit to the manager for being so honest with him during that conversation.
He said: "It was very open. I wasn't in the team or playing and he said to me that maybe I could look elsewhere because I need to play at my age. I didn't totally agree, but I understood where he was coming from. Obviously he needs players who are going to play and not be sat about, but I thought in the back of my mind that if I got a chance I could prove myself to him. Luckily enough, I did in the next week or so after that."
Downing scored his first league goal for the club - and provided his first league assist too - during the 4-0 win over Fulham on December 22, and is looking to continue improving. He added: "It was disappointing because I was in and out, in and out and it was becoming a bit frustrating at times. But the best thing is playing in a winning team - and playing with good players helps. There's consistency in the whole team, which is helping my game as well.
"My aim every game is to make the manager not leave me out. The only way to do that is to perform well. I've basically had nothing to lose in games and I think that's helped me over the last few weeks and long may it continue."

I'm still hoping he's shipped out come summer .
 
Nah, I'm hoping he's turned a corner. He's had enough stick since he signed. He deserves a good run of form and possibly a chance to prove his worth.

Of course, if this doesn't happen, ship him out to fuck.
 
Nah, I'm hoping he's turned a corner. He's had enough stick since he signed. He deserves a good run of form and possibly a chance to prove his worth.

Of course, if this doesn't happen, ship him out to fuck.
How much time are you gonna give him?
 
Til the summer?

If he performs well and is getting assists and the odd goal then why not. If he keeps it up we might as well keep playing him.

So far he's a better purchase than aquilani
 
What's Aquilani got to do with anything?

The concern with Downing is that once he feels he's proven himself he might well take his foot off the gas and given his attitude since joining I don't think anyone would be prepared to gamble much on that not happening.

If a good offer comes in for him it'll absolutely be the right time to sell. He's almost 30 and with other younger players hopefully looking to take his place in our team we might not get a good offer again.
 
Modo has his vendetta against downing, so I thought I'd remind him that his champion was shitter for us. At least downing is performing (finally) like he wants to be here. If a decent offer comes in, of course sell, but I don't think that'll happen. He's starting to perform and us offering us balance.
 
Well be lucky to recoup 50% of the fee we paid. It all depends on what you mean by good offer.
 
Aquilani still has more assists in half a season than Downing has in one and a half season.
Championing Aquilani, no. Defending Aquilani, most definitely and in hindsight I think most would rather have Aquilani at the club than Fatty McScottish.
 
This is where assists are problematic. Three of Aquilani's were against Burnley, one came off his arse and another was a miss kick.
 
Adam wasn't good enough in the end, but he scored a few and bagged several assists too. For whatever reason neither him nor Aquilani were cut out for a top Premiership side, but they're both talented, dissing Adam while championing Aquilani is pointless, they ultimately gave us about the same.

As for Downing, he hasn't been good enough but the price tag wasn't his doing. His form of late has been much better and as for the stupid fucking assists point by Modo, Aquilani played in a better side and Downing has created chances only to see them fluffed. You only have to watch Sturridge's goal against Norwich to appreciate where we've been falling short, ie someone getting in the 6 yard box and pouncing on every ball. He's not half as bad as you make out and this obsession is really fucking annoying.
 
Adam wasn't good enough in the end, but he scored a few and bagged several assists too. For whatever reason neither him nor Aquilani were cut out for a top Premiership side, but they're both talented, dissing Adam while championing Aquilani is pointless, they ultimately gave us about the same.

As for Downing, he hasn't been good enough but the price tag wasn't his doing. His form of late has been much better and as for the stupid fucking assists point by Modo, Aquilani played in a better side and Downing has created chances only to see them fluffed. You only have to watch Sturridge's goal against Norwich to appreciate where we've been falling short, ie someone getting in the 6 yard box and pouncing on every ball. He's not half as bad as you make out and this obsession is really fucking annoying.

Yes Aquilani probably did play in a better side, but we were surely better than Aston Villa last season and I think Downing got some assists there. Downing did have Suarez and Carroll in front of him, he's a premier league proven winger, I don't see how he can manage to get zero assists in 30 something starts and I can't believe all the effort being put in by some fans to excuse his ineptness. Aquilani even managed to score in his 9 league starts.
 
Does it really matter whether shit player X is slightly less shit than shit player Y?

What a pointless argument.
 
The 'assist' is an absolutely pointless stat with no real marker on its value. I think someone just thought of it to make Fantasy Football more interesting and people have taken it too seriously.
 
Well if this cunt takes the emotional party of Suarez game away I'll hunt him down & kill him personally.

I just hope they realise all players don't need this. Carra & Suarez use that emotional side to great effect.

Football is not cycling, it requires creativity, which the emotions help with.
 
How much time are you gonna give him?
I'm with Fabio. If he keeps his current form until the end of the season I'm happy enough to hold onto him. However if a good offer comes our way (it won't) by all means sell him.

I also agree with Larry. The "assists" stat is bollocks. It takes 2 players to make an assist pay off. To be fair, Stewie creates quite a lot of chances. I think his focus needs to be on getting a few more goals.
 
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