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It's official - Scotland invented football

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the count

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That age-old chesnut regarding who invented football has been resolved, for now.

Organised football matches were being played in castle courtyards in Scotland more than 500 years ago, the latest research suggests.

Researchers at the Scottish Football Museum have found evidence of structured games involving a limited number of skilled players.

They said it showed that football in Scotland evolved into the modern game rather than being “invented” in the 19th century.

Mary Queen of Scots watched a game of football in 1568 at Carlisle Castle after fleeing from the Battle of Langside. A Scottish retinue of 20 people are said to have played a game for her amusement for two hours.

A letter describes the game as skilled, “with little foul play”, according to museum curator Richard McBrearty.

Documents unearthed from the Lord High Treasurer’s records from April 1497 show King James IV paid two shillings for a bag of “fut ballis”.

Meanwhile, the world’s oldest surviving football, dating to 1540, was found behind panelling in the Queen’s bed chamber in Stirling Castle.

Mr McBrearty said: “It is research I have been involved with for about 10 years. We have been looking at the origins in Scotland and how it was played.

“We have been looking at small closed games that were played and evidence of structure and skill. We found fragments of information which show that there has been an evolution of the game which goes back hundreds of years.”

He said he wants to challenge the perception that football was a violent and unregulated game involving hundreds of people before it was codified at Cambridge University in 1848.

The first association game in Scotland was between Queens Park and The Thistle in 1868. It lasted two hours and was 20-a-side.
 
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That age-old chesnut regarding who invented football has been resolved, for now.

Organised football matches were being played in castle courtyards in Scotland more than 500 years ago, the latest research suggests.

Researchers at the Scottish Football Museum have found evidence of structured games involving a limited number of skilled players.

They said it showed that football in Scotland evolved into the modern game rather than being “invented” in the 19th century.

Mary Queen of Scots watched a game of football in 1568 at Carlisle Castle after fleeing from the Battle of Langside. A Scottish retinue of 20 people are said to have played a game for her amusement for two hours.

A letter describes the game as skilled, “with little foul play”, according to museum curator Richard McBrearty.

Documents unearthed from the Lord High Treasurer’s records from April 1497 show King James IV paid two shillings for a bag of “fut ballis”.

Meanwhile, the world’s oldest surviving football, dating to 1540, was found behind panelling in the Queen’s bed chamber in Stirling Castle.

Mr McBrearty said: “It is research I have been involved with for about 10 years. We have been looking at the origins in Scotland and how it was played.

“We have been looking at small closed games that were played and evidence of structure and skill. We found fragments of information which show that there has been an evolution of the game which goes back hundreds of years.”

He said he wants to challenge the perception that football was a violent and unregulated game involving hundreds of people before it was codified at Cambridge University in 1848.

The first association game in Scotland was between Queens Park and The Thistle in 1868. It lasted two hours and was 20-a-side.
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Standards in the Scottish game have been steadily declining ever since.
 
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Mary Queen of Scots watched a game of football in 1568 at Carlisle Castle after fleeing from the Battle of Langside.

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Taribo West got the winner apparently.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47214.msg1413911#msg1413911 date=1318984431]
The only thing the Scottish ever invented was the deep-fried Mars bar.
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Oh fuck off you annoying cunt.

Admittedly whilst the deep-fried mars bar is the most notable, television, radar, telephone, penicillin, and the steam engine were all being invented in Scotland whilst the Irish were inventing getting pissed.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47214.msg1413911#msg1413911 date=1318984431]
The only thing the Scottish ever invented was the deep-fried Mars bar.
[/quote]

Oh fuck off you annoying cunt.

Admittedly whilst the deep-fried mars bar is the most notable, television, radar, telephone, penicillin, and the steam engine were all being invented in Scotland whilst the Irish were inventing getting pissed.
[/quote]
Penicillin wasn't invented, it was discovered. Also the ancient Greeks had the idea for the steam engine but didn't use it as they didn't know what to do with all the slaves that would be made redundant.

Also Scotland used to be called Pictland until the Scots came over..... from Ireland.
 
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[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=47214.msg1413920#msg1413920 date=1318990143]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47214.msg1413911#msg1413911 date=1318984431]
The only thing the Scottish ever invented was the deep-fried Mars bar.
[/quote]

Oh fuck off you annoying cunt.

Admittedly whilst the deep-fried mars bar is the most notable, television, radar, telephone, penicillin, and the steam engine were all being invented in Scotland whilst the Irish were inventing getting pissed.
[/quote]
Penicillin wasn't invented, it was discovered. Also the ancient Greeks had the idea for the steam engine but didn't use it as they didn't know what to do with all the slaves that would be made redundant.

Also Scotland used to be called Pictland until the Scots came over..... from Ireland.
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The Scots have invented (or discovered) loads of stuff to be fair. And in the sports stakes that's now football to add to golf, curling and tossing the caber. Impressive.
 
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[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=47214.msg1413920#msg1413920 date=1318990143]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47214.msg1413911#msg1413911 date=1318984431]
The only thing the Scottish ever invented was the deep-fried Mars bar.
[/quote]

Oh fuck off you annoying cunt.

Admittedly whilst the deep-fried mars bar is the most notable, television, radar, telephone, penicillin, and the steam engine were all being invented in Scotland whilst the Irish were inventing getting pissed.
[/quote]
Penicillin wasn't invented, it was discovered. Also the ancient Greeks had the idea for the steam engine but didn't use it as they didn't know what to do with all the slaves that would be made redundant.

Also Scotland used to be called Pictland until the Scots came over..... from Ireland.
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Alexander Bell was born is Scotland but came up with the idea in Canada and invented in USA. Nikola Tesla , Austrian invented the radar concept as well.

Just thought I'd piss on those chips
 
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[quote author=athensruairi link=topic=47214.msg1413967#msg1413967 date=1319010572]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=47214.msg1413920#msg1413920 date=1318990143]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47214.msg1413911#msg1413911 date=1318984431]
The only thing the Scottish ever invented was the deep-fried Mars bar.
[/quote]

Oh fuck off you annoying cunt.

Admittedly whilst the deep-fried mars bar is the most notable, television, radar, telephone, penicillin, and the steam engine were all being invented in Scotland whilst the Irish were inventing getting pissed.
[/quote]
Penicillin wasn't invented, it was discovered. Also the ancient Greeks had the idea for the steam engine but didn't use it as they didn't know what to do with all the slaves that would be made redundant.

Also Scotland used to be called Pictland until the Scots came over..... from Ireland.
[/quote]

Alexander Bell was born is Scotland but came up with the idea in Canada and invented in USA. Nikola Tesla , Austrian invented the radar concept as well.

Just thought I'd piss on those chips
[/quote]and can I just say that I really don't think that the Irish invented "getting pissed"


Though we may have perfected it.
 
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