Name 1 that's worked out? So far all you've done is name 1 that never materialised.
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Name 1 that's worked out? So far all you've done is name 1 that never materialised.
Well if Quansah does well, why would he want to come back in a year or two and play for Slot, who froze him out unceremoniously in the first place? If it's a loan then it's a different thing, but he's gone, and regardless of first options, it's down to the player if he wants to return or move to whoever else is offering money for him.
RM did exactly that with someone. I'm not sure if the 'Buy Back' is binding on the player as well as the buying club. I would assume it is otherwise it's worthless. So Quansah must also be a party to that agreement and he'd have no option but to comply if we exercised it.
Cough. Euros not GBP !
It’s great move all round. Excellent business.
Sepp is fucking rubbish.
So it's worked out successfully a grand total of twice for the same club?
& the buy black clauses back then for these 2 players were 5-6m euros......if we were selling the cunt for £5m with a buy back of £10m, then I'd maybe understand it...but what are the chances right now we'll sign Quansah in a few years for 50-55m? Close to zero as you can get. Would've made far more sense sticking a sell on clause in there instead because the probability of him being moved back to the Prem for £20-30m (or anywhere for that matter), is far higher.
I know thinking isn’t your strong point, so I’ll try again - it doesn’t matter if any have or haven’t worked this assures us we get a good deal whatever happens. Either he develops into a top class CB at Leverkusen and we can re-sign him for a net cost of about £16m or we bank £35m for a young player who isn’t going to be quite good enough.
Since you asked though - Caravajal - sold to Leverkusen and buyback activated by Real one year later.
Couldn’t get into the Real team, flourished at Leverkusen, so Real had dibs on one of the best RB’s of our generation at a ridiculously cheap price.
No downside to having a buyback and yet someone is still trying to make some weird mystery point,. Also, we might still have a sell on clause, there is nothing to say we cant have both ffs.
This argument is equivalent to not locking your car because some criminals can still get into them.
This argument is equivalent to not locking your car because some criminals can still get into them.
How do you know there isn’t a sell on clause as well?
Also, sell on clauses tend to work on a percentage ABOVE what the team paid for him - so if he got sold for £20-30m we’d get nothing.
If he sold for £40m we’d get like 10% of £5m.
It doesn’t matter if there’s zero chance we re-sign him at £50m - because £35m is still good business and doesn’t look like we compromised on upfront fee to backend a buyback clause. It’s an exercise in mitigating all eventual outcomes, whatever they are, to our benefit.
35m a bit low.
£35m a 4th choice CB who underperformed last season is low? There's also a buyback option, otherwise it would have been more
He wasn’t given a chance to perform imo. He was decent the year before and will dominate in Germany. Great pick up by them. Good there is a buy back option.
Foreign team are exempt from the English tax.
But we can say this about every player. What were a string of Chelsea managers not seeing with some of their players over the years? Sturridge, Salah, De Bruyne.. Plenty of relatively young players have stepped down big clubs and gone on to be players who commanded fees to move to big clubs again. It doesn't really wash, the "manager is always right" stance. The "pure profit" aspect makes this a business decision more than anything. We're capitalising on the moment we are in, but in another year we'd have been more "hands off".
It's always nice to see young players coming through and doing well and given the relatively frugal framework we've been operating under, it's made a lot of sense to push youth to the fore.
Quansah, to me, has never quite looked ready for play week in, week out for a club like Liverpool. Unfortunately CB is a key position and he needs a season or two in a team that allow players to develop. Not another season sitting on the bench waiting for a chance in the League Cup or for someone to get injured.
There is a fine balance between utilizing youth and stunting their development / wasting an asset. It feels like selling Quansah is the right move.
And now we've potentially freed up a spot for the next promising youngster (if there is one) to get some time in the cups.
Quansah, to me, has never quite looked ready for play week in, week out for a club like Liverpool. Unfortunately CB is a key position and he needs a season or two in a team that allow players to develop. Not another season sitting on the bench waiting for a chance in the League Cup or for someone to get injured.
There is a fine balance between utilizing youth and stunting their development / wasting an asset. It feels like selling Quansah is the right move.
And now we've potentially freed up a spot for the next promising youngster (if there is one) to get some time in the cups.
I was trying to be specific in that "if a player isn't rectifying the issues the manager sees" he won't get the game time to be slung.
I think that is what happened with Salah/De Bruyne, sometimes it happens where a player is not doing well somewhere but is the missing piece of the puzzle elsewhere. There are hundreds of examples like this, and vice versa.
The Manager has to take the I'm right stance, it's his job and reputation on the line also.
Did you see some of the games where he came on, he looked scared of the ball? He was kicking balls out of touch for an opposition throw in even when there was no pressure on him. I don't know what happened between him and Bonnie Blue, but after she gave out the news, "A Liverpool player wanted to be Gangbanged by 100 men", he looked frazzled. We got a fair price for him. We got lowballed on Kev which still doesn't make sense.
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